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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    Do the Tigers and RA share a building? Remarkably similar organisations

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    @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

    Do the Tigers and RA share a building? Remarkably similar organisations

    Nope - Concord is a good 20-30 minute drive through city traffic from Moore Park.

    They share a philosophy tho: change nothing in case we lose our jobs.

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      #4254

      "Cheika meanwhile sensationally took Argentina to the semi-finals of the World Cup for the first time and has never hidden his desire to coach the Wallabies again."

      Sensationally?

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      • ChrisC Offline
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        #4255

        That would add some interest in 2024 if it happened Foster coached Wallabies v Razor coached ABs the Bleidsloe Cup would be interesting.

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        • voodooV voodoo

          From the Oz - Foz in the running...

          Eddie Jones fallout: All Blacks mentor in mix to coach Wallabies

          EXCLUSIVE
          By JESSICA HALLORAN
          CHIEF SPORTS WRITER
          @JessiHalloran

          UPDATED 12:27PM OCTOBER 30, 2023, FIRST PUBLISHED AT 11:22AM OCTOBER 30, 2023

          Outgoing All Blacks coach Ian Foster is being considered as the next Wallabies coach, with former Australian coach Michael Cheika and Brumbies coach Stephen Larkham also being floated as replacements for Eddie Jones.

          The Australian understands Foster, who took the All Blacks to the World Cup final but endured a heartbreaking one-point loss to South Africa, is in Rugby Australia’s sights.

          The Wallabies failed to qualify for the quarter-finals for the first time in the World Cup’s 36-year history.

          The off-contract Kiwi coach gave an interview to the official All Blacks website on Monday stating he had no clear plans yet for his future.

          Foster told the website that while he was offered coaching positions during the World Cup, he said he wasn‘t interested in discussing them until after.

          “The team deserved to have a head coach they knew was 100 per cent committed to this team right now. That‘s what I did,” Foster told allblacks.com. ”There’s no secret plans.”

          Foster, who at times endured criticism during his tenure as head coach of New Zealand, led what has been described as the “least fancied’’ All Blacks World Cup history to the tournament’s final.

          The All Blacks announced back in April that highly-successful Crusaders Super Rugby coach Scott Robertson would assume the role after the World Cup.

          Foster had strong support from the All Blacks playing group.

          “I have the utmost respect and praise for Fozzie,” All Blacks centre Rieko Ioane said after the final in Paris on Saturday. ”He has also faced adversity not only this tournament but leading into this tournament and to lead us and produce some of the footy we were able to produce is a credit to him.”

          Cheika meanwhile sensationally took Argentina to the semi-finals of the World Cup for the first time and has never hidden his desire to coach the Wallabies again.

          The former Wallabies coach has however been linked to a role at the NRL’s Wests Tigers.

          Cheika’s contract with Argentina is due to expire with the Pumas now that their World Cup campaign is over and following their fourth place finish.

          “I’ll go to Argentina later in the year and we’ll have a talk about how things went and what the future holds,” Cheika said after the Pumas final match.

          Former Wallabies assistant coach Dan McKellar, who has an exit cause from his contract with Leicester, is also being touted as a candidate for the Wallabies job.

          Larkham, who was the attacking coach under Cheika at the 2015 World Cup, also departed in 2019 and is being discussed as a possible replacement for Jones.

          The former Wallabies star five-eighth also spent three years coaching Irish provincial side Munster. He returned to the Brumbies for the 2023 Super Rugby season.

          JESSICA HALLORAN CHIEF SPORTS WRITER

          nostrildamusN Online
          nostrildamusN Online
          nostrildamus
          wrote on last edited by
          #4256

          @voodoo said in Aussie Rugby:

          From the Oz - Foz in the running...

          Eddie Jones fallout: All Blacks mentor in mix to coach Wallabies

          EXCLUSIVE
          By JESSICA HALLORAN
          CHIEF SPORTS WRITER
          @JessiHalloran

          UPDATED 12:27PM OCTOBER 30, 2023, FIRST PUBLISHED AT 11:22AM OCTOBER 30, 2023

          Outgoing All Blacks coach Ian Foster is being considered as the next Wallabies coach, with former Australian coach Michael Cheika and Brumbies coach Stephen Larkham also being floated as replacements for Eddie Jones.

          The Australian understands Foster, who took the All Blacks to the World Cup final but endured a heartbreaking one-point loss to South Africa, is in Rugby Australia’s sights.

          The Wallabies failed to qualify for the quarter-finals for the first time in the World Cup’s 36-year history.

          The off-contract Kiwi coach gave an interview to the official All Blacks website on Monday stating he had no clear plans yet for his future.

          Foster told the website that while he was offered coaching positions during the World Cup, he said he wasn‘t interested in discussing them until after.

          “The team deserved to have a head coach they knew was 100 per cent committed to this team right now. That‘s what I did,” Foster told allblacks.com. ”There’s no secret plans.”

          Foster, who at times endured criticism during his tenure as head coach of New Zealand, led what has been described as the “least fancied’’ All Blacks World Cup history to the tournament’s final.

          The All Blacks announced back in April that highly-successful Crusaders Super Rugby coach Scott Robertson would assume the role after the World Cup.

          Foster had strong support from the All Blacks playing group.

          “I have the utmost respect and praise for Fozzie,” All Blacks centre Rieko Ioane said after the final in Paris on Saturday. ”He has also faced adversity not only this tournament but leading into this tournament and to lead us and produce some of the footy we were able to produce is a credit to him.”

          Cheika meanwhile sensationally took Argentina to the semi-finals of the World Cup for the first time and has never hidden his desire to coach the Wallabies again.

          The former Wallabies coach has however been linked to a role at the NRL’s Wests Tigers.

          Cheika’s contract with Argentina is due to expire with the Pumas now that their World Cup campaign is over and following their fourth place finish.

          “I’ll go to Argentina later in the year and we’ll have a talk about how things went and what the future holds,” Cheika said after the Pumas final match.

          Former Wallabies assistant coach Dan McKellar, who has an exit cause from his contract with Leicester, is also being touted as a candidate for the Wallabies job.

          Larkham, who was the attacking coach under Cheika at the 2015 World Cup, also departed in 2019 and is being discussed as a possible replacement for Jones.

          The former Wallabies star five-eighth also spent three years coaching Irish provincial side Munster. He returned to the Brumbies for the 2023 Super Rugby season.

          JESSICA HALLORAN CHIEF SPORTS WRITER

          Why can't you have them all? Larkham, Cheika and Foster? The coaches' box during games would be a spectacle in itself!

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          • nostrildamusN Online
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            nostrildamus
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            #4257

            oh hang on

            The Australian understands Foster, who took the All Blacks to the World Cup final but endured a heartbreaking one-point loss to South Africa, is in Rugby Australia’s sights.

            They couldn't even find a sign to a specsavers.
            What a shame, I was looking forward to Ocker 'learnings'.

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              I dung think even fozzie is dumb enough to take over this dumpster fire

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              • ChrisC Chris

                That would add some interest in 2024 if it happened Foster coached Wallabies v Razor coached ABs the Bleidsloe Cup would be interesting.

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                @Chris said in Aussie Rugby:

                That would add some interest in 2024 if it happened Foster coached Wallabies v Razor coached ABs the Bleidsloe Cup would be interesting.

                There was certainly some added spice in that first Deans v Henry Bledisloe series in 08. OZ had their tails up after a good win in Sydney. Then there was the nail biter decider in Brissy.

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                • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                  @voodoo said in Aussie Rugby:

                  From the Oz - Foz in the running...

                  Eddie Jones fallout: All Blacks mentor in mix to coach Wallabies

                  EXCLUSIVE
                  By JESSICA HALLORAN
                  CHIEF SPORTS WRITER
                  @JessiHalloran

                  UPDATED 12:27PM OCTOBER 30, 2023, FIRST PUBLISHED AT 11:22AM OCTOBER 30, 2023

                  Outgoing All Blacks coach Ian Foster is being considered as the next Wallabies coach, with former Australian coach Michael Cheika and Brumbies coach Stephen Larkham also being floated as replacements for Eddie Jones.

                  The Australian understands Foster, who took the All Blacks to the World Cup final but endured a heartbreaking one-point loss to South Africa, is in Rugby Australia’s sights.

                  The Wallabies failed to qualify for the quarter-finals for the first time in the World Cup’s 36-year history.

                  The off-contract Kiwi coach gave an interview to the official All Blacks website on Monday stating he had no clear plans yet for his future.

                  Foster told the website that while he was offered coaching positions during the World Cup, he said he wasn‘t interested in discussing them until after.

                  “The team deserved to have a head coach they knew was 100 per cent committed to this team right now. That‘s what I did,” Foster told allblacks.com. ”There’s no secret plans.”

                  Foster, who at times endured criticism during his tenure as head coach of New Zealand, led what has been described as the “least fancied’’ All Blacks World Cup history to the tournament’s final.

                  The All Blacks announced back in April that highly-successful Crusaders Super Rugby coach Scott Robertson would assume the role after the World Cup.

                  Foster had strong support from the All Blacks playing group.

                  “I have the utmost respect and praise for Fozzie,” All Blacks centre Rieko Ioane said after the final in Paris on Saturday. ”He has also faced adversity not only this tournament but leading into this tournament and to lead us and produce some of the footy we were able to produce is a credit to him.”

                  Cheika meanwhile sensationally took Argentina to the semi-finals of the World Cup for the first time and has never hidden his desire to coach the Wallabies again.

                  The former Wallabies coach has however been linked to a role at the NRL’s Wests Tigers.

                  Cheika’s contract with Argentina is due to expire with the Pumas now that their World Cup campaign is over and following their fourth place finish.

                  “I’ll go to Argentina later in the year and we’ll have a talk about how things went and what the future holds,” Cheika said after the Pumas final match.

                  Former Wallabies assistant coach Dan McKellar, who has an exit cause from his contract with Leicester, is also being touted as a candidate for the Wallabies job.

                  Larkham, who was the attacking coach under Cheika at the 2015 World Cup, also departed in 2019 and is being discussed as a possible replacement for Jones.

                  The former Wallabies star five-eighth also spent three years coaching Irish provincial side Munster. He returned to the Brumbies for the 2023 Super Rugby season.

                  JESSICA HALLORAN CHIEF SPORTS WRITER

                  Why can't you have them all? Larkham, Cheika and Foster? The coaches' box during games would be a spectacle in itself!

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                  @nostrildamus said in Aussie Rugby:

                  Why can't you have them all? Larkham, Cheika and Foster? The coaches' box during games would be a spectacle in itself!

                  Cheika exploding. Larkham and Foster barely registering a pulse.

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                  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                    "Cheika meanwhile sensationally took Argentina to the semi-finals of the World Cup for the first time and has never hidden his desire to coach the Wallabies again."

                    Sensationally?

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                    #4261

                    @nostrildamus said in Aussie Rugby:

                    "Cheika meanwhile sensationally took Argentina to the semi-finals of the World Cup for the first time and has never hidden his desire to coach the Wallabies again."

                    Sensationally?

                    I guess the previous time they made the semis wasn't sensational enough, given that the author has obviously forgotten all about it

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                    • G GibbonRib

                      @nostrildamus said in Aussie Rugby:

                      "Cheika meanwhile sensationally took Argentina to the semi-finals of the World Cup for the first time and has never hidden his desire to coach the Wallabies again."

                      Sensationally?

                      I guess the previous time they made the semis wasn't sensational enough, given that the author has obviously forgotten all about it

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                      Machpants
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                      #4262

                      @GibbonRib said in Aussie Rugby:

                      @nostrildamus said in Aussie Rugby:

                      "Cheika meanwhile sensationally took Argentina to the semi-finals of the World Cup for the first time and has never hidden his desire to coach the Wallabies again."

                      Sensationally?

                      I guess the previous time they made the semis wasn't sensational enough, given that the author has obviously forgotten all about it

                      Where they also came 3rd not 4th

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                      • M Machpants

                        @GibbonRib said in Aussie Rugby:

                        @nostrildamus said in Aussie Rugby:

                        "Cheika meanwhile sensationally took Argentina to the semi-finals of the World Cup for the first time and has never hidden his desire to coach the Wallabies again."

                        Sensationally?

                        I guess the previous time they made the semis wasn't sensational enough, given that the author has obviously forgotten all about it

                        Where they also came 3rd not 4th

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                        GibbonRib
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                        @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                        @GibbonRib said in Aussie Rugby:

                        @nostrildamus said in Aussie Rugby:

                        "Cheika meanwhile sensationally took Argentina to the semi-finals of the World Cup for the first time and has never hidden his desire to coach the Wallabies again."

                        Sensationally?

                        I guess the previous time they made the semis wasn't sensational enough, given that the author has obviously forgotten all about it

                        Where they also came 3rd not 4th

                        Indeed. That game was notable as the first time a RWC featured the same fixture twice (Argentina also played France in the pool stages).

                        The second time it happened was 24 hours later.

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                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                          @voodoo said in Aussie Rugby:

                          From the Oz - Foz in the running...

                          Eddie Jones fallout: All Blacks mentor in mix to coach Wallabies

                          EXCLUSIVE
                          By JESSICA HALLORAN
                          CHIEF SPORTS WRITER
                          @JessiHalloran

                          UPDATED 12:27PM OCTOBER 30, 2023, FIRST PUBLISHED AT 11:22AM OCTOBER 30, 2023

                          Outgoing All Blacks coach Ian Foster is being considered as the next Wallabies coach, with former Australian coach Michael Cheika and Brumbies coach Stephen Larkham also being floated as replacements for Eddie Jones.

                          The Australian understands Foster, who took the All Blacks to the World Cup final but endured a heartbreaking one-point loss to South Africa, is in Rugby Australia’s sights.

                          The Wallabies failed to qualify for the quarter-finals for the first time in the World Cup’s 36-year history.

                          The off-contract Kiwi coach gave an interview to the official All Blacks website on Monday stating he had no clear plans yet for his future.

                          Foster told the website that while he was offered coaching positions during the World Cup, he said he wasn‘t interested in discussing them until after.

                          “The team deserved to have a head coach they knew was 100 per cent committed to this team right now. That‘s what I did,” Foster told allblacks.com. ”There’s no secret plans.”

                          Foster, who at times endured criticism during his tenure as head coach of New Zealand, led what has been described as the “least fancied’’ All Blacks World Cup history to the tournament’s final.

                          The All Blacks announced back in April that highly-successful Crusaders Super Rugby coach Scott Robertson would assume the role after the World Cup.

                          Foster had strong support from the All Blacks playing group.

                          “I have the utmost respect and praise for Fozzie,” All Blacks centre Rieko Ioane said after the final in Paris on Saturday. ”He has also faced adversity not only this tournament but leading into this tournament and to lead us and produce some of the footy we were able to produce is a credit to him.”

                          Cheika meanwhile sensationally took Argentina to the semi-finals of the World Cup for the first time and has never hidden his desire to coach the Wallabies again.

                          The former Wallabies coach has however been linked to a role at the NRL’s Wests Tigers.

                          Cheika’s contract with Argentina is due to expire with the Pumas now that their World Cup campaign is over and following their fourth place finish.

                          “I’ll go to Argentina later in the year and we’ll have a talk about how things went and what the future holds,” Cheika said after the Pumas final match.

                          Former Wallabies assistant coach Dan McKellar, who has an exit cause from his contract with Leicester, is also being touted as a candidate for the Wallabies job.

                          Larkham, who was the attacking coach under Cheika at the 2015 World Cup, also departed in 2019 and is being discussed as a possible replacement for Jones.

                          The former Wallabies star five-eighth also spent three years coaching Irish provincial side Munster. He returned to the Brumbies for the 2023 Super Rugby season.

                          JESSICA HALLORAN CHIEF SPORTS WRITER

                          Why can't you have them all? Larkham, Cheika and Foster? The coaches' box during games would be a spectacle in itself!

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                          #4264

                          @nostrildamus said in Aussie Rugby:

                          @voodoo said in Aussie Rugby:

                          From the Oz - Foz in the running...

                          Eddie Jones fallout: All Blacks mentor in mix to coach Wallabies

                          EXCLUSIVE
                          By JESSICA HALLORAN
                          CHIEF SPORTS WRITER
                          @JessiHalloran

                          UPDATED 12:27PM OCTOBER 30, 2023, FIRST PUBLISHED AT 11:22AM OCTOBER 30, 2023

                          Outgoing All Blacks coach Ian Foster is being considered as the next Wallabies coach, with former Australian coach Michael Cheika and Brumbies coach Stephen Larkham also being floated as replacements for Eddie Jones.

                          The Australian understands Foster, who took the All Blacks to the World Cup final but endured a heartbreaking one-point loss to South Africa, is in Rugby Australia’s sights.

                          The Wallabies failed to qualify for the quarter-finals for the first time in the World Cup’s 36-year history.

                          The off-contract Kiwi coach gave an interview to the official All Blacks website on Monday stating he had no clear plans yet for his future.

                          Foster told the website that while he was offered coaching positions during the World Cup, he said he wasn‘t interested in discussing them until after.

                          “The team deserved to have a head coach they knew was 100 per cent committed to this team right now. That‘s what I did,” Foster told allblacks.com. ”There’s no secret plans.”

                          Foster, who at times endured criticism during his tenure as head coach of New Zealand, led what has been described as the “least fancied’’ All Blacks World Cup history to the tournament’s final.

                          The All Blacks announced back in April that highly-successful Crusaders Super Rugby coach Scott Robertson would assume the role after the World Cup.

                          Foster had strong support from the All Blacks playing group.

                          “I have the utmost respect and praise for Fozzie,” All Blacks centre Rieko Ioane said after the final in Paris on Saturday. ”He has also faced adversity not only this tournament but leading into this tournament and to lead us and produce some of the footy we were able to produce is a credit to him.”

                          Cheika meanwhile sensationally took Argentina to the semi-finals of the World Cup for the first time and has never hidden his desire to coach the Wallabies again.

                          The former Wallabies coach has however been linked to a role at the NRL’s Wests Tigers.

                          Cheika’s contract with Argentina is due to expire with the Pumas now that their World Cup campaign is over and following their fourth place finish.

                          “I’ll go to Argentina later in the year and we’ll have a talk about how things went and what the future holds,” Cheika said after the Pumas final match.

                          Former Wallabies assistant coach Dan McKellar, who has an exit cause from his contract with Leicester, is also being touted as a candidate for the Wallabies job.

                          Larkham, who was the attacking coach under Cheika at the 2015 World Cup, also departed in 2019 and is being discussed as a possible replacement for Jones.

                          The former Wallabies star five-eighth also spent three years coaching Irish provincial side Munster. He returned to the Brumbies for the 2023 Super Rugby season.

                          JESSICA HALLORAN CHIEF SPORTS WRITER

                          Why can't you have them all? Larkham, Cheika and Foster? The coaches' box during games would be a spectacle in itself!

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                            Mckellar would make the most sense I would think, then Larkham.

                            If I was Foster I would steer clear.

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                              What we need is a settled, mature coaching panel. That rules out Cheika. And I'd probably steer clear of Foster.

                              McKeller is my pick, but I'd have a chat to Joe Schmidt to see what he's doing.

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                                Why would any non-Australian coach be interested if McLennan still wants some control? And before someone says the money, RA doesn't have any.

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                                  Why would any non-Australian coach be interested if McLennan still wants some control? And before someone says the money, RA doesn't have any.

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                                  @Bovidae said in Aussie Rugby:

                                  Why would any non-Australian coach be interested if McLennan still wants some control? And before someone says the money, RA doesn't have any.

                                  One would only have to look at recent history for how the rugby community in Australia treats Kiwis to stay clear anyway.

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                                    They have some money. Enough to pay pretty nicely.

                                    And ultimately it's still a prestige job. You'd be coming in at rock bottom with a Lions tour and home World Cup on the horizon. It's not the worst sales pitch.

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                                      They have some money. Enough to pay pretty nicely.

                                      And ultimately it's still a prestige job. You'd be coming in at rock bottom with a Lions tour and home World Cup on the horizon. It's not the worst sales pitch.

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                                      #4270

                                      @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:

                                      They have some money. Enough to pay pretty nicely.

                                      And ultimately it's still a prestige job. You'd be coming in at rock bottom with a Lions tour and home World Cup on the horizon. It's not the worst sales pitch.

                                      Exactly - if expectations are "better than 2023" then you can't lose!

                                      Once you've had an international coaching gig, getting another one is easier. Like being a CEO: you can be the biggest fuckup in the room, but you've still got that on your resume so C-suite jobs are much easier.

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                                        #4271

                                        I, and a lot of other people, cannot believe Cheika is being discussed for the role by anyone.

                                        Who is coming after that? Deans? Knuckles? Give me strength....

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                                          Someone will want it. Guys at that level have massive egos, so someone will absolutely believe they are the guy to win with the Wallabies.

                                          Tough gig to come in to though. It's a rebuild from the base job. Eddie's fucked all your old heads off so the support network is lacking. And you are going to have to develop guys in key positions with the following monstrous handicaps
                                          The Super Rugby sides don't give a fuck about you, and won't help you or listen to your needs
                                          A heap of your so-called best players are overseas, and will only turn up for short windows.

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