RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
Just an interesting what if...What if SA had beaten Ireland and we face them in the QF. Would have been fascinating to see how that game went down.
So many what ifs.
We win or lose v France, we get to play Ireland or South Africa, or South Africa or Ireland.
Who knows.
What if Barnsie had ruled Sammie did not clearly release ... or had his hands on the ground ... or SA had beaten us in the hypothetical QF...
That QF is, on reflection 2.5 weeks later, one of my absolute favourite All Blacks, and therefore sporting, moments. And I'll enjoy that for what it was.
It's all what ifs. So many games decided by less than a score this RWC.
And in the end it was 1 point.
Am so proud of our guys that I really don't mind (I care but I don't mind) that we lost.
@booboo said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
Just an interesting what if...What if SA had beaten Ireland and we face them in the QF. Would have been fascinating to see how that game went down.
So many what ifs.
We win or lose v France, we get to play Ireland or South Africa, or South Africa or Ireland.
Who knows.
What if Barnsie had ruled Sammie did not clearly release ... or had his hands on the ground ... or SA had beaten us in the hypothetical QF...
That QF is, on reflection 2.5 weeks later, one of my absolute favourite All Blacks, and therefore sporting, moments. And I'll enjoy that for what it was.
It's all what ifs. So many games decided by less than a score this RWC.
And in the end it was 1 point.
Am so proud of our guys that I really don't mind (I care but I don't mind) that we lost.
This is the attitude I took into the final (or rather tried to keep in mind.)
Felt so blessed to have supported the Boks as they showed sheer balls and street smarts in manufacturing back to back wins over the magnificent hosts playing in front of a roiling cauldron of passionate fans and against the swirling wind, pelting sheets of rain and an obdurate reffing team very much feeling the pressure from those same heartbroken, angry fans.
Felt greedy and ungrateful to ask for more from them than to go out and deliver a game they could be proud of. They did that and more.
As a temporary AB supporter for the Irish game, I reckon they also earned @booboo’s satisfaction and pride in their World Cup performance.
They were immense in rooting the Irish and fronted one of the all time big match teams for 80 minutes, blunting one of the best packs ever to set foot on a pitch, found a way to pierce its previously impregnable Finals defence twice, kept Kolbe and KLA from ripping even a single try from the cold Stade air and we’re so disciplined that they only gave Pollard’s Championship winning boot four measly swings at goal.
In the end, those four chances were one too many.
When the boot is on the other foot, as it will be soon enough, please remind me to take huge pride in the boks’ performance and that the bitterness of the vagaries of the weather, the bounce of the ball, reffing and the whims of the Rugby Gods are there to make the wins all the sweeter.
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At some stage I’ll try and explain what this team and it’s triumphs mean to me and how it felt to have the privilege of watching parts of their climb to the mountaintop alongside old friends and new. Until then, this captures a lot of it, beautifully: https://t.co/urRUhLROGH
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I remember McLeod's interview after halftime in the France game. Basically said they planned to run them around to tire them out. But instead of driving up the guts they decided to spin it wide like touch and make all sorts of silly chip kicks. Just not smart
@canefan said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
I remember McLeod's interview after halftime in the France game. Basically said they planned to run them around to tire them out. But instead of driving up the guts they decided to spin it wide like touch and make all sorts of silly chip kicks. Just not smart
In the end, for all the bravery of our players, this was the problem in 2023. Our coaching set up was not that smart.
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@canefan said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
I remember McLeod's interview after halftime in the France game. Basically said they planned to run them around to tire them out. But instead of driving up the guts they decided to spin it wide like touch and make all sorts of silly chip kicks. Just not smart
In the end, for all the bravery of our players, this was the problem in 2023. Our coaching set up was not that smart.
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My view on the whole thing is a bit more simplistic,
I think the margins between the top 4 sides are tiny, you could replay the quarter final the next week and get a different result and replay the final and get a different result next time around .
But as always, winning papers over the cracks and losing over emphasis them.
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My view on the whole thing is a bit more simplistic,
I think the margins between the top 4 sides are tiny, you could replay the quarter final the next week and get a different result and replay the final and get a different result next time around .
But as always, winning papers over the cracks and losing over emphasis them.
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
My view on the whole thing is a bit more simplistic,
I think the margins between the top 4 sides are tiny, you could replay the quarter final the next week and get a different result and replay the final and get a different result next time around .
But as always, winning papers over the cracks and losing over emphasis them.
Yes, but the bloody Saffers did it when it mattered. 3 times on the bounce. A tad fortunate maybe v France but they played poorly v England and v NZ in much of the second half and still got over the line.
There are no undeserving RWC winners.
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@kiwiinmelb said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
My view on the whole thing is a bit more simplistic,
I think the margins between the top 4 sides are tiny, you could replay the quarter final the next week and get a different result and replay the final and get a different result next time around .
But as always, winning papers over the cracks and losing over emphasis them.
Yes, but the bloody Saffers did it when it mattered. 3 times on the bounce. A tad fortunate maybe v France but they played poorly v England and v NZ in much of the second half and still got over the line.
There are no undeserving RWC winners.
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Nigel Yalden’s podcast worth a taste on this game.
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-nigel-yalden-podcast/id1558193228?i=1000633179766 -
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
My view on the whole thing is a bit more simplistic,
I think the margins between the top 4 sides are tiny, you could replay the quarter final the next week and get a different result and replay the final and get a different result next time around .
But as always, winning papers over the cracks and losing over emphasis them.
Yes, but the bloody Saffers did it when it mattered. 3 times on the bounce. A tad fortunate maybe v France but they played poorly v England and v NZ in much of the second half and still got over the line.
There are no undeserving RWC winners.
@Catogrande said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
My view on the whole thing is a bit more simplistic,
I think the margins between the top 4 sides are tiny, you could replay the quarter final the next week and get a different result and replay the final and get a different result next time around .
But as always, winning papers over the cracks and losing over emphasis them.
Yes, but the bloody Saffers did it when it mattered. 3 times on the bounce. A tad fortunate maybe v France but they played poorly v England and v NZ in much of the second half and still got over the line.
There are no undeserving RWC winners.
Yeah I’m not suggesting they didn’t deserve to win , the results are there
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@Catogrande except England
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Well done to Feek, the young props and Nepo. Up against the best scrum in the world, that was the one area that I was worried about. They did well, especially considering there was no Cane for most of the game.
https://twitter.com/haribaldijones/status/1718746673399185503?t=B6qiEO_4RiASNfvLYuqAjw&s=19
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At some stage I’ll try and explain what this team and it’s triumphs mean to me and how it felt to have the privilege of watching parts of their climb to the mountaintop alongside old friends and new. Until then, this captures a lot of it, beautifully: https://t.co/urRUhLROGH
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@booboo said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
Has Sam Cane faced the judiciary yet?
Can't answer that, but surely the judiciary will support the red and give him the minimum punishment. Anything less will cause a kerfuffle world rugby can do without.
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Stay classy NZ.
Fuck this shit makes me ashamed and angry
https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/10/30/wayne-barnes-wife-decries-vile-atmosphere-death-threats/
Imagine if the saffas lost. She would actually be dead by now!
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@booboo said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
Has Sam Cane faced the judiciary yet?
Can't answer that, but surely the judiciary will support the red and give him the minimum punishment. Anything less will cause a kerfuffle world rugby can do without.
@Crazy-Horse said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@booboo said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
Has Sam Cane faced the judiciary yet?
Can't answer that, but surely the judiciary will support the red and give him the minimum punishment. Anything less will cause a kerfuffle world rugby can do without.
No, they are independent. So they make their own decision, see Farrell pre world cup
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@kiwiinmelb said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
My view on the whole thing is a bit more simplistic,
I think the margins between the top 4 sides are tiny, you could replay the quarter final the next week and get a different result and replay the final and get a different result next time around .
But as always, winning papers over the cracks and losing over emphasis them.
Yes, but the bloody Saffers did it when it mattered. 3 times on the bounce. A tad fortunate maybe v France but they played poorly v England and v NZ in much of the second half and still got over the line.
There are no undeserving RWC winners.
@Catogrande said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
My view on the whole thing is a bit more simplistic,
I think the margins between the top 4 sides are tiny, you could replay the quarter final the next week and get a different result and replay the final and get a different result next time around .
But as always, winning papers over the cracks and losing over emphasis them.
Yes, but the bloody Saffers did it when it mattered. 3 times on the bounce. A tad fortunate maybe v France but they played poorly v England and v NZ in much of the second half and still got over the line.
There are no undeserving RWC winners.
We tend to attach certain phrases to sporting contests in an emotive way to try and make sense of it all. But I’ve never really got the whole deserved or undeserved winners stuff. Your team either wins or doesn’t. It’s that clear cut. And that is why it’s so devastating when you think your team plays well and they don’t get the choccies.
A score line sometimes isn’t a true reflection of what happens on the field. But sometimes it very much is. The weekend in my opinion was clearly in the latter category. It was a genuinely close match.
