EPL 2023/2024
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@Billy-Tell They seem to have a lot of players who are useful but there is no set pattern to the way they way. Obviously having Varane, Martinez, Shaw out is not going to help the defence. Casemiro might be past it, Eriksen is probably past it, Mount was never going to fix anything and Antony should be put up for sale.
@KiwiPie said in EPL 2023/2024:
@Billy-Tell They seem to have a lot of players who are useful but there is no set pattern to the way they way. Obviously having Varane, Martinez, Shaw out is not going to help the defence. Casemiro might be past it, Eriksen is probably past it, Mount was never going to fix anything and Antony should be put up for sale.
Quoting myself but I just realised that Varane was on the bench. World Cup winner being benched for Jonny Evans who was sold 8 years ago to West Brom.
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very much a casual PL viewer these days, mainly watching so i can talk to my son about it.
But how good is Ange going? Spurs unbeaten. WHL rocking. Saying all the right things, and seems really comfortable with the place. I'm so glad he's killing it.
Top 5 seem to have established a gap, and we are all just waiting for City to not lose a game in 2024 to win the league really.
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@mariner4life and there is a good chance that will happen. They have an eye for talent and replacing what they have lost. Can't see them losing the title.
Now Arsenal on the other hand made 2 good signings this summer but one injured. The other, Havertz, is an abject failure. Both Arteta and Edu should go for that signing and all the other failures which are plenty. Arteta arrogant enough to think he can convert him to an 8. Rice is being run ragged and he is excellent. Saka does not know how to beat someone down the outside. If he is injured bring Nelson in. Everything is slowed down as a result. No striker unless we are playing the bottom of the barrel. A midfield hanging on by a thread. Imagine that midfield without Rice? Just think who we could have had for 65 million? Subs with 15 to play, a slight improvement from bringing on players with 5 to 10 to play. Not sure what he is seeing. No one will shoot from outside the eighteen. This is circa 2012 to whenever Wenger left. Have to pass it in to score. Horrible to watch. Kind of like watching a Fozzie coached AB team. Arteta needs to go.
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A draw would have been a fair result in the Newcastle-Arsenal game. That was a terrible VAR decision to award the goal.
@Bovidae Liverpool v Tottenham types of robbery with that goal.
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VAR is busted right now. We also conceded a goal vs Crystal Palace last game when Ayew clearly handled the ball, and from his body language he clearly knew he'd handled too. And yet VAR gave it, fortunately it didn't cost us the game but it did make for a very unnecessarily uncomfortable final few minutes
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A draw would have been a fair result in the Newcastle-Arsenal game. That was a terrible VAR decision to award the goal.
@Bovidae said in EPL 2023/2024:
A draw would have been a fair result in the Newcastle-Arsenal game. That was a terrible VAR decision to award the goal.
Hard to determine whether the ball was out from the angle they used. A push in the back sure. But a VAR decision is just an excuse and the poor performance and Coach are the primary problems.
Arsenal needed 2 midfielders in the summer. Rice is great. Harvertz is a bust and we could have got an actual midfielder. Someone with pedigree instead of a stupid experiment with someone that could not even perform at Chelsea as a forward. Lucky if we get fifth this year.
Defense is good. Some problems. Offense is bereft of ideas.
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9 men will do that.. at one stage even with 9 looked like it could be 2-2 and then Jackson took it away from them
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9 men will do that.. at one stage even with 9 looked like it could be 2-2 and then Jackson took it away from them
@bayimports said in EPL 2023/2024:
9 men will do that.. at one stage even with 9 looked like it could be 2-2 and then Jackson took it away from them
I didn't watch the game. But 11-9 will always be tough.
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Watching Tottenham vs Chelsea. Too too too much VAR. Ruins the flow.
Edit: 12 minutes of added time for a 45 minute half. Sums it up.
@Billy-Tell said in EPL 2023/2024:
Watching Tottenham vs Chelsea. Too too too much VAR. Ruins the flow.
Edit: 12 minutes of added time for a 45 minute half. Sums it up.
VAR was crucial to making good decisions in this game, it’s the process that VAR follows that can irritate me. For Chelsea’s second goal, they could have checked it in 5 seconds after the goal was scored whilst the players were celebrating, instead of which it took minutes whilst the players were back in position ready to start. Improve the process, don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.
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@Billy-Tell said in EPL 2023/2024:
Watching Tottenham vs Chelsea. Too too too much VAR. Ruins the flow.
Edit: 12 minutes of added time for a 45 minute half. Sums it up.
VAR was crucial to making good decisions in this game, it’s the process that VAR follows that can irritate me. For Chelsea’s second goal, they could have checked it in 5 seconds after the goal was scored whilst the players were celebrating, instead of which it took minutes whilst the players were back in position ready to start. Improve the process, don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.
@Dodge said in EPL 2023/2024:
@Billy-Tell said in EPL 2023/2024:
Watching Tottenham vs Chelsea. Too too too much VAR. Ruins the flow.
Edit: 12 minutes of added time for a 45 minute half. Sums it up.
VAR was crucial to making good decisions in this game, it’s the process that VAR follows that can irritate me. For Chelsea’s second goal, they could have checked it in 5 seconds after the goal was scored whilst the players were celebrating, instead of which it took minutes whilst the players were back in position ready to start. Improve the process, don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.
I hate it now. If it’s not obvious and it takes 2 minutes of replay then stick with onfield decision. Game slowed to a halt at times.
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I still am having difficulty understanding Romero's red card. He played the ball first and just happened to clatter the other guy afterward. Sure what happen after wasn't good but it was in the act of playing the ball. This VAR in soccer and rugby has to be improved. Haven't look at Rashfords's one today yet.
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I still am having difficulty understanding Romero's red card. He played the ball first and just happened to clatter the other guy afterward. Sure what happen after wasn't good but it was in the act of playing the ball. This VAR in soccer and rugby has to be improved. Haven't look at Rashfords's one today yet.
@broughie said in EPL 2023/2024:
I still am having difficulty understanding Romero's red card. He played the ball first and just happened to clatter the other guy afterward. Sure what happen after wasn't good but it was in the act of playing the ball. This VAR in soccer and rugby has to be improved. Haven't look at Rashfords's one today yet.
The game changed 20 years ago, you can’t make contact with the ball and then follow through studs up into someone’s shin anymore. That isn’t controversial.
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@broughie said in EPL 2023/2024:
I still am having difficulty understanding Romero's red card. He played the ball first and just happened to clatter the other guy afterward. Sure what happen after wasn't good but it was in the act of playing the ball. This VAR in soccer and rugby has to be improved. Haven't look at Rashfords's one today yet.
The game changed 20 years ago, you can’t make contact with the ball and then follow through studs up into someone’s shin anymore. That isn’t controversial.
@Dodge Yes, not a hard rule to understand. Like when Villa played Chelsea earlier in the season, my Chelsea mates were sulking when Gusto followed through and caught Lucas Digne studs up after collecting the ball. Was a clear red today. Didn't seem to whinge so much after the Tottenham game funnily enough.
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Chelsea vs MC was a great watch.
