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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    I was worried about Wilks as a defensive coordinator hire by the 49ers and the fears are being realised

    His coaching history is a lot of short stints - and not that many as a dedicated defensive coordinator - and not that much success.

    49ers defense is underperforming given the talent they have.

    It will be telling how the 49ers play after the bye with Deebo and Trent Williams back.

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    @KiwiMurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

    I was worried about Wilks as a defensive coordinator hire by the 49ers and the fears are being realised

    His coaching history is a lot of short stints - and not that many as a dedicated defensive coordinator - and not that much success.

    49ers defense is underperforming given the talent they have.

    It will be telling how the 49ers play after the bye with Deebo and Trent Williams back.

    We need a new DC

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      Josh McDaniel the first head coaching casualty. His second HC job (not counting the brief flirtation with the Colts) and ends the same way - sacked, mid season year 2.

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      • CyclopsC Cyclops

        Josh McDaniel the first head coaching casualty. His second HC job (not counting the brief flirtation with the Colts) and ends the same way - sacked, mid season year 2.

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        @Cyclops sure that's him done -- twice is crazy

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          Josh McDaniel the first head coaching casualty. His second HC job (not counting the brief flirtation with the Colts) and ends the same way - sacked, mid season year 2.

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          @Cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22/23:

          Josh McDaniel the first head coaching casualty. His second HC job (not counting the brief flirtation with the Colts) and ends the same way - sacked, mid season year 2.

          Obviously a far better assistant than HC

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            Nice bounce back by the 49ers - Chase Young with a strong Niners debut and Nick Bosa with his best game of the season.

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              49ers got ahead early and were able to do what they do best and play from in front.

              They're a monster team when they don't have to try to catch up. I do wonder how this will go into play offs. When you have to get through 3 or 4 of the teams in the top half of the league odds are you'll find yourself in a 1st quarter hole at least once. So far they haven't been able to figure out how to get away from that - might prove fatal to their super bowl chances.

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                The last Qtr of the Texans at Bengals game was wild. Interceptions, a big Bengals comeback to tie the game. Then one last Texans drive where a receiver breaks a tackle to give their back-up kicker a realistic chance to win. A chance he then took.

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                  Hey Jets fans, how's that Nathaniel Hackett offence working out?

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                    This Jets offence will be in text books. Every way you can stink it stinks. I'm not even sure what the biggest problem is because every problem can pretty convincing be explained by the issues caused by other problems. It's probably harder to be as bad as they are than it is to be middle of the pack.

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                    • CyclopsC Cyclops

                      This Jets offence will be in text books. Every way you can stink it stinks. I'm not even sure what the biggest problem is because every problem can pretty convincing be explained by the issues caused by other problems. It's probably harder to be as bad as they are than it is to be middle of the pack.

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                      @Cyclops said in NFL:

                      I'm not even sure what the biggest problem is

                      as someone i who watches Denver, it's the OC

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                        Nah, it's the oc but it's also a QB who struggles with accuracy and moving through his progressions, it's a WR corp that struggles to hold catches, win contested catches or separate cleanly on routes, it's a TE group that aren't effective blockers or plus route runners, it's a OL that just doesn't have the players and injury has forced to constantly rotate so can't build chemistry, and a group that as a whole can't stop giving up a combination of stupid penalties at the worst possible time, it's a head coach that is insanely conservative and wants to win by going downfield 5 yards a play despite the offences inability to run more than three plays in a row without one of the aforementioned problems blowing up a drive by getting them stuck at 3-and-forever. An unimaginative OC that doesn't seem to be up to speed with current trends doesn't help either, but I'm not convinced anyone other than Shanahan and maybe McVay could do much more with this offence.

                        Coaching in the NFL is probably the most overrated aspect of the league. At any point in time there are maybe 2 or 3 coaches that make a difference (I'd go Shanahan, Tomlin, Harbor at the moment), a bunch of coaches that have basically no impact either way and then a couple who are actively harmful. McDaniels was one. Maybe Saleh/Hackett are in that category (hard to tell when there are other problems) but generally teams are too quick to blame coaches when they're pretty limited by the talent on the field.

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                          Broncos win! missed two extra points, but kicked a last second field goal. A last second field goal he got to take twice because teh Bills had 12 on the field when he missed the first time.

                          And on the back of two huge penalties, neither of which were even controversial

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                            Are the Bengals in trouble? 5-5 and bottom of their division. Burrow left the game today as well.

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                              Are the Bengals in trouble? 5-5 and bottom of their division. Burrow left the game today as well.

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                              @mariner4life said in NFL:

                              Are the Bengals in trouble? 5-5 and bottom of their division. Burrow left the game today as well.

                              IF he's fit, they're contenders. But he's missed 4 games I think - and they're struggling as a result.

                              Edit: and the Ravens are serious contenders. Dynamite defence and their offence can rip teams apart. Fun watch.

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                                Burrow done for the year. Bengals season over, plus being investigated for potentially failing to declare the injury.

                                In theory that can result in loss of draft picks, in reality (assuming that the NFL finds against them) it's mostly likely to result in a fine.

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                                  15 straight TD-less quarters for the Jets

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                                    This could only happen to the Jets.

                                    Attempt a hail mary on halftime.

                                    Ball gets intercepted and returned 99 yards for a touchdown.

                                    https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1728163643089625506

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      This could only happen to the Jets.

                                      Attempt a hail mary on halftime.

                                      Ball gets intercepted and returned 99 yards for a touchdown.

                                      https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1728163643089625506

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                                      @KiwiMurph said in NFL:

                                      This could only happen to the Jets.

                                      Attempt a hail mary on halftime.

                                      Ball gets intercepted and returned 99 yards for a touchdown.

                                      https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1728163643089625506

                                      Great inside outside at the end

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                                        Even crazier when you realise the context - Dolphins were driving in the two minute drill at the end of the first half, Tua throws a pick six (jets miss extra point), comes back out throws another pick, leaving 2 seconds on the board. It went from comfortable 10-0, to 10-6 jets have momentum going into half, to 17-6 game is basically dead.

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                                          Statement win by the 49ers.

                                          Destroyed Philly in Philly.

                                          Eagles dominated the first quarter but then got smoked.

                                          Deebo Samuel backed up his trash talk. What a game for him

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