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RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks

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  • KiwiwombleK Online
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    thats painful to watch with how its edited, i know he's trying to make a point but cutting Mills comment into it everything 15 seconds is just painful

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    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

      thats painful to watch with how its edited, i know he's trying to make a point but cutting Mills comment into it everything 15 seconds is just painful

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      @Kiwiwomble something with Paddy Gower commenting on rugby has zero credibility, so watch it, I won't.

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        @Kiwiwomble something with Paddy Gower commenting on rugby has zero credibility, so watch it, I won't.

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        @taniwharugby said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

        @Kiwiwomble something with Paddy Gower commenting on rugby anything because he is a cock has zero credibility, so watch it, I won't.

        Just tidied up a minor error there

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        • FrankF Offline
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          KILL THIS THREAD PLEASE!!!

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          • W32W Offline
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            Ah this is after the twickenham game. Sorry!

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              Just looking for some spilt milk so I can cry. This thread seems like a good place to start the search.

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              • DuluthD Offline
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                The disallowed try stuff is getting dragged up again.

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/133288593/world-rugby-concedes-all-blacks-disallowed-try-in-rugby-world-cup-final-should-have-stood

                Stuff understands World Rugby has privately acknowledged to the All Blacks that the ruling out of Aaron Smith’s try in the final was in fact outside the rules, but is refusing to publicly acknowledge that.
                
                Discussions have been ongoing in an effort to get World Rugby to publicly clarify that the TMO ruling was a breach of the current rules governing the game.
                

                I'm not sure it needs an official clarification like the IRB sometimes issues on confusing or contentious laws. The protocol seems straight forward.. this was just an error.

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                • canefanC Away
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                  #2746

                  Clearly not straight forward enough because Foley and Barnes fucked it up between them. Unless they are going to give us the cup I think we should just move on

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                  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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                    It is straightforward, but errors are made in high pressure situations like a RWC final. Something the officials are not immune too.

                    Good on Stuff for keeping this is in the news. This has a long way to run. It’s only been a few weeks since the final. Four more years!

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                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                      It is straightforward, but errors are made in high pressure situations like a RWC final. Something the officials are not immune too.

                      Good on Stuff for keeping this is in the news. This has a long way to run. It’s only been a few weeks since the final. Four more years!

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                      @ACT-Crusader said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                      It is straightforward, but errors are made in high pressure situations like a RWC final. Something the officials are not immune too.

                      Good on Stuff for keeping this is in the news. This has a long way to run. It’s only been a few weeks since the final. Four more years!

                      Barnes? Sure. Foley was in a room with at least one other person, in front of a TV screen. I would argue he and his buddies have less excuse

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                      • canefanC canefan

                        @ACT-Crusader said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                        It is straightforward, but errors are made in high pressure situations like a RWC final. Something the officials are not immune too.

                        Good on Stuff for keeping this is in the news. This has a long way to run. It’s only been a few weeks since the final. Four more years!

                        Barnes? Sure. Foley was in a room with at least one other person, in front of a TV screen. I would argue he and his buddies have less excuse

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                        @canefan said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                        @ACT-Crusader said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                        It is straightforward, but errors are made in high pressure situations like a RWC final. Something the officials are not immune too.

                        Good on Stuff for keeping this is in the news. This has a long way to run. It’s only been a few weeks since the final. Four more years!

                        Barnes? Sure. Foley was in a room with at least one other person, in front of a TV screen. I would argue he and his buddies have less excuse

                        agree Foley can seemingly find lots of innocuous things when a NZ player has infringed. He should own his miss and learn to shut the fuck up for a change.

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                          How can a TMO be so ignorant of the laws? Many of us questioned it at the time and we aren't being paid to study the laws. Amateur hour.

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                          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                            It is straightforward, but errors are made in high pressure situations like a RWC final. Something the officials are not immune too.

                            Good on Stuff for keeping this is in the news. This has a long way to run. It’s only been a few weeks since the final. Four more years!

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                            @ACT-Crusader all sliding doors anyway, we scored not long after anyway, so who knows what woulda happened if it had (rightfully) stood...they coulda hit back with a try of thier own, we could have kicked on and scored again...

                            It is what it is, but agree with others that the TMO is the one who has no excuse for making basic errors like that, whereas Barnes (and others in the middle) in the heat of the moment you can give him more leeway.

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                            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                              It is straightforward, but errors are made in high pressure situations like a RWC final. Something the officials are not immune too.

                              Good on Stuff for keeping this is in the news. This has a long way to run. It’s only been a few weeks since the final. Four more years!

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                              @ACT-Crusader 4 more years. Its a very long time.

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                                The TMO system is clearly a farce. I agree entirely with Steve Hansen that it is resulting in the game being refereed in replay and I agree with Nigel Owens that is undermining the referee, in this case the best and fairest in the world. How typical, also, that World Rugby is saying nothing on the record about this. They love talking about accountability and transparency but never practise it themselves, preferring to leave the professionals appointed to adjudicate the game to take all the flak when they are just doing their jobs. Nothing can take away from the Springboks victory. They deserved it for their dogged defence and smart game management. But it rankles when such fundamental errors are made, and no-one wants to admit the mistake. That leaves a bad smell around the code and in its greatest single showcase, no less. If I were a lawyer I’d be thinking about a class action to clear out that board.

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                                • DuluthD Duluth

                                  The disallowed try stuff is getting dragged up again.

                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/133288593/world-rugby-concedes-all-blacks-disallowed-try-in-rugby-world-cup-final-should-have-stood

                                  Stuff understands World Rugby has privately acknowledged to the All Blacks that the ruling out of Aaron Smith’s try in the final was in fact outside the rules, but is refusing to publicly acknowledge that.
                                  
                                  Discussions have been ongoing in an effort to get World Rugby to publicly clarify that the TMO ruling was a breach of the current rules governing the game.
                                  

                                  I'm not sure it needs an official clarification like the IRB sometimes issues on confusing or contentious laws. The protocol seems straight forward.. this was just an error.

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                                  #2754

                                  @Duluth A rather large whoopsie, though, wouldn’t you say? “Oh dear, we said we wouldn’t invade Poland but we did. And oh, we started another World War. Sorry about that.”

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                                  • His BobnessH His Bobness

                                    @Duluth A rather large whoopsie, though, wouldn’t you say? “Oh dear, we said we wouldn’t invade Poland but we did. And oh, we started another World War. Sorry about that.”

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                                    @His-Bobness His Godwiness!

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                                    • boobooB booboo

                                      @Dodge said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                                      The process was correct, the decision was wrong

                                      I'm in disagreement here.

                                      Decision was correct, process was wrong.

                                      As much as I jumped up and whooped when Nuggie went over I expected it to go back as it was an obvious knock on.

                                      I have other issues with the officiating which I'm not in the mood to whinge about right now.

                                      But the ruling out of that try is not an issue I'm indignant about. Despite the process being wrong.

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                                      @booboo In law, making a mistake in the process precludes the possibility of a correct decision. That’s how appeal lawyers win cases. Conversely, while a proper application of process does not automatically imply a correct decision, it makes it harder to argue for a reversal unless you have other evidence. In this case, the process was incorrect. The try should have stood. If you say the decision was ‘correct’ we get back to subjective judgements and arguments about who is in charge here.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @His-Bobness His Godwiness!

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                                        @Bones Godwin Schmozmin

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                                          It is fine to invade Poland if within 2 phases?
                                          Id say a good outcome would be that TMO retiring.

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