Aussie Pro Rugby
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Saying this is al about disunity, which regions or whatever they are called in Oz haven't backed the go? Basically NSW?
@Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:
Saying this is al about disunity, which regions or whatever they are called in Oz haven't backed the go? Basically NSW?
And Victoria but they were not asked by the other 6 as NSW and Victoria are in discussions with RA about centralisation so they were left out.
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@KiwiMurph said in Aussie Rugby:
The chairmen of the Queensland Rugby Union, ACT Rugby, Rugby WA and South Australia Rugby confronted McLennan on Friday, following a secret phone hook-up on Wednesday afternoon to discuss the RA chairman’s leadership following a disastrous year in rugby. QRU chairman Brett Clark phoned McLennan on Friday afternoon to inform him of their collective stanceI hate to be an I told you so, but f*** me I have not trusted him from time he came on scenen, got crucified on another forum for saying as much. I still believe from the time he took over at RA he has done damage to the game . H
e came in talking how tough he was and was putting nZR in their place, a few fan boys swallowed it etc, but he never actually did anything, just talked!
Pack your bags Hamish and get someone like a John Eales type man who actually know how to work as part of a team. Not saying has to be Eales but that type of man!@Dan54 said in Aussie Rugby:
Hamish McLennan
Hamish McLennan is a fool. But incompetent too. 2 men have done so much harm to Aussie rugby. Didn't John O'Neill start the rot? Believing Aust rugby is bigger and greater than it is. Wanting more teams when they never had even close to the player quality or money needed. But this clown McLennan took it to another level.
Shame as it impacts NZ rugby. And will for years to come. We have thrown our future in with an organization run by a fool.
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@KiwiMurph said in Aussie Rugby:
The chairmen of the Queensland Rugby Union, ACT Rugby, Rugby WA and South Australia Rugby confronted McLennan on Friday, following a secret phone hook-up on Wednesday afternoon to discuss the RA chairman’s leadership following a disastrous year in rugby. QRU chairman Brett Clark phoned McLennan on Friday afternoon to inform him of their collective stanceI hate to be an I told you so, but f*** me I have not trusted him from time he came on scenen, got crucified on another forum for saying as much. I still believe from the time he took over at RA he has done damage to the game . H
e came in talking how tough he was and was putting nZR in their place, a few fan boys swallowed it etc, but he never actually did anything, just talked!
Pack your bags Hamish and get someone like a John Eales type man who actually know how to work as part of a team. Not saying has to be Eales but that type of man!Agreed, he needs to go.
He gambled on Eddie and lost. His big gamble walked away after taking the team backwards and setting the Oz game back to its lowest ebb since the early 70’s
When you are at the top and cause so much disruption that fails spectacularly, there is only one way for you to go. He won’t last long, and he shouldn’t.
Rugby Australia cannot be going through a civil war right now as, it is not an exaggeration to say the next 4 years is probably the most crucial in its history, as they need to maximise the interest, success and revenue of the Lions tour and world cups.
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Agreed, he needs to go.
He gambled on Eddie and lost. His big gamble walked away after taking the team backwards and setting the Oz game back to its lowest ebb since the early 70’s
When you are at the top and cause so much disruption that fails spectacularly, there is only one way for you to go. He won’t last long, and he shouldn’t.
Rugby Australia cannot be going through a civil war right now as, it is not an exaggeration to say the next 4 years is probably the most crucial in its history, as they need to maximise the interest, success and revenue of the Lions tour and world cups.
@DaGrubster couldn't agree more about not affording a civil war. RA has given Hamish another 24 hours apparently to decide, but surely the game can't afford the fallout. Regardless of what the outcome is now seem there a fairly big split in the rugby community.
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The crazy thing is, he has the right idea that Oz need to centralize. But that is not his idea, and he has provided nothing on how this will happen only 'hand over everything to RA and we'll do it'. No wonder the states that are not both financially fucked and know they have their old boys in power in RA aren't keen. On top he has been acting like a CEO, not a board chair. The board is supposed to set the goals, the CEO does the execution of those goals, it's in the fucking position title! There is real space for him to be sued for not acting as a board member should, it has been done before
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Hamish is gonna drag this out to an Extraordinary General Meeting.
What a cockhead.
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A lot of dumb ozzies conflating centralization and keeping that twat. You can get rid of him and still centralize, you can under someone who has brains and is trustworthy and won't take a dump on Ozzie rugby for a few headlines like the league kid or Eddie
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McLennan gone.
Board voted him out as chairman.
@KiwiMurph said in Aussie Rugby:
McLennan gone.
Board voted him out as chairman.
Good riddance fuckwit. I'd do it again
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Geoff's take. Interesting comment in there too
RA is left with two highly inexperienced administrators, with no real business leadership experience between them, walking a financial tight rope, upcoming TV rights negotiations and major reforms desperately needed.
More good rugby men running a pro business. Basically what NZR report said we need to get away from. I don't know what experience those two have but I'd it enough?
Apparently RA had lost a minor sponsored and Cadbury is on the way out, too
What a mess before a potential golden period. Now that's looking more like an orange time for Ozzie
https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/11/19/analysis-mclennans-fatal-blind-spot-and-why-his-exit-leaves-australian-rugby-in-a-better-place-and-a-worse-one/ -
What do the states do now?
They got what they wanted. Does this mean them fall in behind the centralisation model now?
Lol, fat chance
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
What do the states do now?
They got what they wanted. Does this mean them fall in behind the centralisation model now?
Lol, fat chance
Maybe RA will offer something beyond give us everything and we'll sort it?
But mmmm, who knows
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
What do the states do now?
They got what they wanted. Does this mean them fall in behind the centralisation model now?
Lol, fat chance
Maybe RA will offer something beyond give us everything and we'll sort it?
But mmmm, who knows
@Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:
Maybe RA will offer something beyond give us everything and we'll sort it?
The proposal was to align high performance under a centralised model with a number of areas highlighted for integration.
Yes, the precise details are still to be worked out, but you need the stakeholders around a table to work out exactly how it functions, after everyone has agreed in principle.
The alternative is to spend time providing a detailed model with no consultation, and then let each state spend more time picking apart the bits they don't like. Thus spending more time to get nowhere.
None of the states is particularly sustainable or profitable, and duplicating functions across each office and RA is a waste of money.
Get the bits than can be aligned into the agreement, and quickly, in order to make the operation lean.
Agile!
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@Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:
Maybe RA will offer something beyond give us everything and we'll sort it?
The proposal was to align high performance under a centralised model with a number of areas highlighted for integration.
Yes, the precise details are still to be worked out, but you need the stakeholders around a table to work out exactly how it functions, after everyone has agreed in principle.
The alternative is to spend time providing a detailed model with no consultation, and then let each state spend more time picking apart the bits they don't like. Thus spending more time to get nowhere.
None of the states is particularly sustainable or profitable, and duplicating functions across each office and RA is a waste of money.
Get the bits than can be aligned into the agreement, and quickly, in order to make the operation lean.
Agile!
