2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches
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@antipodean said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:
If it means India keeps losing, I'll accept Oz winning the next 400 CWCs.
I honestly thought that was the way I felt.
Then I saw them all running out gleefully to the centre of the pitch after they won.
Wondering if I'm being MajorPom again.
@MajorRage said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:
@antipodean said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:
If it means India keeps losing, I'll accept Oz winning the next 400 CWCs.
I honestly thought that was the way I felt.
Then I saw them all running out gleefully to the centre of the pitch after they won.
Wondering if I'm being MajorPom again.
That's probably 50% of it. The other 50% is the natural disgust at seeing Australians smile.
What you really need to do is to imagine a parallel world where India win that match and how bad it would have been watching the Indian team, their fans, their commentators, their politicians and their administrators celebrate.
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@MajorRage said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:
@antipodean said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:
If it means India keeps losing, I'll accept Oz winning the next 400 CWCs.
I honestly thought that was the way I felt.
Then I saw them all running out gleefully to the centre of the pitch after they won.
Wondering if I'm being MajorPom again.
That's probably 50% of it. The other 50% is the natural disgust at seeing Australians smile.
What you really need to do is to imagine a parallel world where India win that match and how bad it would have been watching the Indian team, their fans, their commentators, their politicians and their administrators celebrate.
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Australia won that with the ball. When Rohit was seeing them like beach balls, and Kohli getting going it was looking ugly. Then Head takes a fucking screamer, and the clamps go on. But it was getting Kohli that fucked them, while he was there 300 looked on despite everyone else battling. The whole unit bowled well, good plans, good lengths, and took the pace off the ball over and over.
I may have said this a couple of times this year, but Travis Head is so fucking good now, that's an all-time knock. 130,000 very quiet fans.
Considering how shit Australia looked a month ago this is quite some turnaround
@mariner4life said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:
Head takes a fucking screamer
Off a shitly played shot. Deserved to be out.
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reading about the reactions makes this even better. Stay classy India.
@mariner4life said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:
reading about the reactions makes this even better. Stay classy India.
Share links?
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@NTA I'd happily take 4 more years til the next Black Caps ICC Trophy!
I said after the last final it was as close as we'd ever get in my lifetime. I stand by that claim.
@MajorRage said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:
@NTA I'd happily take 4 more years til the next Black Caps ICC Trophy!
I said after the last final it was as close as we'd ever get in my lifetime. I stand by that claim.
Surely T20 is a flakey enough format to fluke one eventually. Depends how long you are going to be around for though, it might still be quite some time.
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@dogmeat said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:
Inaugural World Test Championship winners.
The rest is just shit 'n' giggles.
There is some element of truth to this.
Test cricket will always be the ultimate form of the game
……until they ban it which would send me into an absolute meltdown on the GOM thread.
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There's a lesson in the local reaction here in Australia.
25 years ago and this would be front page news for days. Ticker tape parades, politicians queuing up for selfies, calls for a public holiday.
But now it feels like it has barely registered. Most people went 'we won? Sweet!' and went back to their lives. People should be recapping the highlights of the Cup, of which the centuries by Maxwell and Head should be considered in the 'all time' category. But I don't think they will. Or not to the level that Waugh in 99 or Ponting in 03 have been.
The fact that there's a T20 series starting this week is just the icing on the cake. As someone pointed out somewhere 'why are they celebrating? Hit the ice baths boys you've got a game in a few days!'.
The game has lost all meaning, all narrative in the endless quest for TV dollars. So the moments that actually do mean something are lost to all but the devoted few.
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There's a lesson in the local reaction here in Australia.
25 years ago and this would be front page news for days. Ticker tape parades, politicians queuing up for selfies, calls for a public holiday.
But now it feels like it has barely registered. Most people went 'we won? Sweet!' and went back to their lives. People should be recapping the highlights of the Cup, of which the centuries by Maxwell and Head should be considered in the 'all time' category. But I don't think they will. Or not to the level that Waugh in 99 or Ponting in 03 have been.
The fact that there's a T20 series starting this week is just the icing on the cake. As someone pointed out somewhere 'why are they celebrating? Hit the ice baths boys you've got a game in a few days!'.
The game has lost all meaning, all narrative in the endless quest for TV dollars. So the moments that actually do mean something are lost to all but the devoted few.
@barbarian thanks fella, interesting. ODI cricket has fallen away. It's a pity - was my gateway drug to the good stuff that is Tests. T20 is almost a different game these days. I do wonder if we'll see a split in players being 'Test' or 'T20' - where the skills are sufficiently different to justify different teams.
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it's not just ODI though, it's everything.
Outside of AUs v England or Aus v India test series, there's very little hype for anything.
There's too much. And they are not even tours any more, it's heading to a country to play a T20 series, or a ODI series. Trying to get 3 tests when you aren't India, Aus or England is a fools errand as well.
How many times has a thread popped up here with the Black Caps an hour from starting a series somewhere and for most of us that's the first you hear of it?
The entire balance has been destroyed. And it will get worse as big money domestic T20 comps take on more and more importance. And a certain national board couldn't be happier.
The Australian cricket summer used to be fucking awesome. Now it's the Big Bash and a few tests that less and less care about.
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@barbarian said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:
And I'm amazed nobody in power seems to have noticed the problem.
As long as the money is flowing, they don't care
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@barbarian said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:
Inaugural Rugby World Cup winners too. One wonders why you still even have to play.
Rugby World Cups are just a bit of fun, we really only care about the Bledisloe
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@barbarian thanks fella, interesting. ODI cricket has fallen away. It's a pity - was my gateway drug to the good stuff that is Tests. T20 is almost a different game these days. I do wonder if we'll see a split in players being 'Test' or 'T20' - where the skills are sufficiently different to justify different teams.
@nzzp said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:
@barbarian thanks fella, interesting. ODI cricket has fallen away. It's a pity - was my gateway drug to the good stuff that is Tests. T20 is almost a different game these days. I do wonder if we'll see a split in players being 'Test' or 'T20' - where the skills are sufficiently different to justify different teams.
I think the CWC is still the pinnacle and the level of engagement from players, fans, media is still very high. There were a lot of people I work with that decided to work from home yesterday because of a late night watching.
The problem is the intervening period and all the “meaningless” ODI games.
I would love to see triangular series come back. It would require a rethink and shift in scheduling because of revenue etc, but they historically brought a level of competitiveness and excitement.
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@nzzp said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:
@barbarian thanks fella, interesting. ODI cricket has fallen away. It's a pity - was my gateway drug to the good stuff that is Tests. T20 is almost a different game these days. I do wonder if we'll see a split in players being 'Test' or 'T20' - where the skills are sufficiently different to justify different teams.
I think the CWC is still the pinnacle and the level of engagement from players, fans, media is still very high. There were a lot of people I work with that decided to work from home yesterday because of a late night watching.
The problem is the intervening period and all the “meaningless” ODI games.
I would love to see triangular series come back. It would require a rethink and shift in scheduling because of revenue etc, but they historically brought a level of competitiveness and excitement.
@ACT-Crusader said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:
@nzzp said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:
@barbarian thanks fella, interesting. ODI cricket has fallen away. It's a pity - was my gateway drug to the good stuff that is Tests. T20 is almost a different game these days. I do wonder if we'll see a split in players being 'Test' or 'T20' - where the skills are sufficiently different to justify different teams.
I think the CWC is still the pinnacle and the level of engagement from players, fans, media is still very high. There were a lot of people I work with that decided to work from home yesterday because of a late night watching.
The problem is the intervening period and all the “meaningless” ODI games.
I would love to see triangular series come back. It would require a rethink and shift in scheduling because of revenue etc, but they historically brought a level of competitiveness and excitement.
Despite the final being very low scoring for this day and age the problem is people are genuinely sick of it raining sixes every fucken game. Remember when Lance Cairns actually earnt those he tonked off Lillee ?
Nowadays cute paddle shots, ramps and mishits do the job with the small boundaries and big bats
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it's not just ODI though, it's everything.
Outside of AUs v England or Aus v India test series, there's very little hype for anything.
There's too much. And they are not even tours any more, it's heading to a country to play a T20 series, or a ODI series. Trying to get 3 tests when you aren't India, Aus or England is a fools errand as well.
How many times has a thread popped up here with the Black Caps an hour from starting a series somewhere and for most of us that's the first you hear of it?
The entire balance has been destroyed. And it will get worse as big money domestic T20 comps take on more and more importance. And a certain national board couldn't be happier.
The Australian cricket summer used to be fucking awesome. Now it's the Big Bash and a few tests that less and less care about.
@mariner4life this is such a great, and depressing, post.
I would add an additional problem, that test cricket is dying in every nation outside of the Money 3. Its being downgraded in importance by boards who aren't allowing schedules to reflect the physical stress it results in, they're increasingly scheduling 2 game series if they're scheduling them at all. The ECB fucked over the Ashes by playing it in a very short window finishing before August so they could play the God awful 100 in the school holidays.
I really worry about the future of test cricket. I really worry about the money being hoarded by 3 nations, I really worry that India in the form of the BCCI are a terrible protector of the game going forward.
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it's not just ODI though, it's everything.
Outside of AUs v England or Aus v India test series, there's very little hype for anything.
There's too much. And they are not even tours any more, it's heading to a country to play a T20 series, or a ODI series. Trying to get 3 tests when you aren't India, Aus or England is a fools errand as well.
How many times has a thread popped up here with the Black Caps an hour from starting a series somewhere and for most of us that's the first you hear of it?
The entire balance has been destroyed. And it will get worse as big money domestic T20 comps take on more and more importance. And a certain national board couldn't be happier.
The Australian cricket summer used to be fucking awesome. Now it's the Big Bash and a few tests that less and less care about.
@mariner4life said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:
The Australian cricket summer used to be fucking awesome. Now it's the Big Bash and a few tests that less and less care about.
You could pretty much predict without needing to check that the first Test of the summer would be at the Gabba around the second week of November...
