Lincoln McClutchie - 16th best 1st 5
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@gt12 That's such an oversimplification of reality (which you may not be aware of). Just a few examples:
I think what hurt his chances was him having to turn down the NZ U20s in 2019, because of his family situation that meant he had to suppor this family financially from a young age. Possibly, those same responsibilities necessitated similar choices along the way, for example, when he played in Japan for one season.
Then there's the development pathway at the Canes, which we've criticised for years as the man in charge is Darren Larsen, who has openly admitted to never travel outside the Wellington province to watch club or school rugby and has a clear record of bias favouring players from Wellington, because they're the only players he knows. We've been complaining about him for ages. It resulted in signing and re-signing of a very average player like Jackson Garden-Bachop, and then Aidan Morgan ... It was obvious in selections at age grade and development level; McClutchie wasn't the only one missing out and the Canes have quite a long history with overlooked playeers (not just from HB) eventually going elsewhere.
McClutchie spent only about 2-3 weeks with the Highlanders as injury cover at a time the development teams didn't play anymore. So he didn't play during that time and had hardly enough time to make an impression.
McClutchie's biggest mistake has probably been rejecting a Crusaders contract in favour of Moana Pasifika, but it proves Razor thought he was good enough for a SR contract.
@Stargazer said in Lincoln McClutchie:
McClutchie's biggest mistake has probably been rejecting a Crusaders contract in favour of Moana Pasifika, but it proves Razor thought he was good enough for a SR contract.
was that a thing?...that sounds mad, i doubt MP were paying more and its not like MP were his childhood team he would do anything to play for....werid
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thing is at times you need luck.get the break and things move .
sometimes its down to timeing age wise or what a team needs. or a coach that see what stargazer and others see. unfortuantly for LM coaches arnt seeing that.
just joins a long list of player that could have been but just didnt get that break to find out@ploughboy said in Lincoln McClutchie:
thing is at times you need luck.get the break and things move .
sometimes its down to timeing age wise or what a team needs. or a coach that see what stargazer and others see. unfortuantly for LM coaches arnt seeing that.
just joins a long list of player that could have been but just didnt get that break to find outThis would apply to about half the fern judging from some of the yarns I’ve read on here.
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@Tim said in Lincoln McClutchie:
@Dan54 Unfortunately I didn't get to see Jacomb and Taranaki's march to the final.
He looks good Tim, was quite impressed, good all round game. Not suggesting a test quality, but think he could develop in a useful super player.
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@ploughboy said in Lincoln McClutchie:
thing is at times you need luck.get the break and things move .
sometimes its down to timeing age wise or what a team needs. or a coach that see what stargazer and others see. unfortuantly for LM coaches arnt seeing that.
just joins a long list of player that could have been but just didnt get that break to find outThis would apply to about half the fern judging from some of the yarns I’ve read on here.
@MN5 said in Lincoln McClutchie:
@ploughboy said in Lincoln McClutchie:
thing is at times you need luck.get the break and things move .
sometimes its down to timeing age wise or what a team needs. or a coach that see what stargazer and others see. unfortuantly for LM coaches arnt seeing that.
just joins a long list of player that could have been but just didnt get that break to find outThis would apply to about half the fern judging from some of the yarns I’ve read on here.
played our best rugby since we have retired
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@MN5 said in Lincoln McClutchie:
@ploughboy said in Lincoln McClutchie:
thing is at times you need luck.get the break and things move .
sometimes its down to timeing age wise or what a team needs. or a coach that see what stargazer and others see. unfortuantly for LM coaches arnt seeing that.
just joins a long list of player that could have been but just didnt get that break to find outThis would apply to about half the fern judging from some of the yarns I’ve read on here.
played our best rugby since we have retired
@ploughboy said in Lincoln McClutchie:
@MN5 said in Lincoln McClutchie:
@ploughboy said in Lincoln McClutchie:
thing is at times you need luck.get the break and things move .
sometimes its down to timeing age wise or what a team needs. or a coach that see what stargazer and others see. unfortuantly for LM coaches arnt seeing that.
just joins a long list of player that could have been but just didnt get that break to find outThis would apply to about half the fern judging from some of the yarns I’ve read on here.
played our best rugby since we have retired
For sure and didn't need a rugby park to play our good stuff on, there was plenty of room in our heads!
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@voodoo said in Lincoln McClutchie:
Got to love the off-season, feels longer every year
Yeah if this guy who I’ve never heard of gets bored and googles himself he’s in for a thrill that’s for sure
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Third time lucky maybe...so he definitely didn't turn down any super teams this year?
Because it would be pretty silly to be upset at NZR if he did, wouldn't it?
@Bones said in Lincoln McClutchie:
Third time lucky maybe...so he definitely didn't turn down any super teams this year?
Because it would be pretty silly to be upset at NZR if he did, wouldn't it?
Lol have the Hawkes Bay lads not answered your question yet? Classic.
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@Bones said in Lincoln McClutchie:
Third time lucky maybe...so he definitely didn't turn down any super teams this year?
Because it would be pretty silly to be upset at NZR if he did, wouldn't it?
Lol have the Hawkes Bay lads not answered your question yet? Classic.
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@Canes4life think they got too upset trying to defend his body shape.
Fun conversation though, as it turns out he was in the Canes U20 and was not offered a contract (or at least didn’t accept one with their WTG), trained with the Landers and wasn't offered a contract (or at least didn’t accept one with the WTG), and rejected the Crusaders (likely a 2-year contract).
Terrible non-selection. He's been robbed.
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Fun conversation though, as it turns out he was in the Canes U20 and was not offered a contract (or at least didn’t accept one with their WTG), trained with the Landers and wasn't offered a contract (or at least didn’t accept one with the WTG), and rejected the Crusaders (likely a 2-year contract).
Terrible non-selection. He's been robbed.
@gt12 he captained the Hurricanes Under 20s side aswell.
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Fun conversation though, as it turns out he was in the Canes U20 and was not offered a contract (or at least didn’t accept one with their WTG), trained with the Landers and wasn't offered a contract (or at least didn’t accept one with the WTG), and rejected the Crusaders (likely a 2-year contract).
Terrible non-selection. He's been robbed.
@gt12 and we still don't know if he actually was offered something for next year and just wasn't interested. To be honest at his age I'd be tempted to earn some good moolah whil seeing a neat part of the world as well, rather than getting a few South Pacific pesos to set up shop in Hamilton or Dunedin for the winter.
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@gt12 and we still don't know if he actually was offered something for next year and just wasn't interested. To be honest at his age I'd be tempted to earn some good moolah whil seeing a neat part of the world as well, rather than getting a few South Pacific pesos to set up shop in Hamilton or Dunedin for the winter.
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@gt12 and we still don't know if he actually was offered something for next year and just wasn't interested. To be honest at his age I'd be tempted to earn some good moolah whil seeing a neat part of the world as well, rather than getting a few South Pacific pesos to set up shop in Hamilton or Dunedin for the winter.
@Bones said in Lincoln McClutchie:
@gt12 and we still don't know if he actually was offered something for next year and just wasn't interested. To be honest at his age I'd be tempted to earn some good moolah whil seeing a neat part of the world as well, rather than getting a few South Pacific pesos to set up shop in Hamilton or Dunedin for the winter.
He won't be earning much coin in MLR, he would earn a heap more in super. Maximum they can earn is $45 grand under their salary cap, why only players who can't get super contract go there. The better ones go to Japan etc where cash is much better. There's a reason that the likes of Andy Ellis etc are still playing in MLR at almost 40, good as he was it's a retirement camp for players.
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@Stargazer said in Lincoln McClutchie:
A 10, the top points scorer of the 2023 NPC, who is hugely influential in his NPC team, creates a lot of the scoring opportunities for his team, is well-liked, and steered his team to their best NPC performance of the modern NPC didn't get a NZ SR contract.
So I'm not the only person who thought he made the Magpies look good? There weren't many five-eighths who did that consistently in the NPC. And if they can't look reasonable at that level...
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@Bones said in Lincoln McClutchie:
@gt12 and we still don't know if he actually was offered something for next year and just wasn't interested. To be honest at his age I'd be tempted to earn some good moolah whil seeing a neat part of the world as well, rather than getting a few South Pacific pesos to set up shop in Hamilton or Dunedin for the winter.
He won't be earning much coin in MLR, he would earn a heap more in super. Maximum they can earn is $45 grand under their salary cap, why only players who can't get super contract go there. The better ones go to Japan etc where cash is much better. There's a reason that the likes of Andy Ellis etc are still playing in MLR at almost 40, good as he was it's a retirement camp for players.
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@Dan54 is that USD or NZD? I can't say I'm hugely convinced on your statement anyway, I'd need to see some evidence Nonu is just in it for the love of the game and that shit hole San Diego
@Bones said in Lincoln McClutchie:
@Dan54 is that USD or NZD? I can't say I'm hugely convinced on your statement anyway, I'd need to see some evidence Nonu is just in it for the love of the game and that shit hole San Diego
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The average salary of an MLR player ranges from $30,000 to $60,000 per year. However, some top players can earn significantly higher salaries.
- Do MLR players receive any additional benefits?
While the base salary may not be as high as other professional sports leagues, MLR players often receive additional benefits such as housing, medical insurance, and travel expenses.
- Do MLR players receive any additional benefits?
