Black Caps - Bangladesh tour
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@Snowy said in Black Caps - Bangladesh tour:
@Chris said in Black Caps - Bangladesh tour:
Did I say otherwise ,Blundels misses some from the pitch and some were lazy poor technique.
Yeah it was an absorbing test match but I prefer a more even contest for all.
I don't know much about keeping so will take your word for it, Blundel certainly let through more than the Bangle keeper (19 v 6).
It is rarely an even contest over the whole 5 days anyway, and so often errs in favour of the batsmen that this made a nice change I thought. We will see more roads than not again in the near future I'm sure.
I did enjoy it as a game,
Blundel should have stayed down a bit longer stops you getting beaten with the low bounce, that way you can keep everything behind the ball.
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@Chris said in Black Caps - Bangladesh tour:
@Snowy said in Black Caps - Bangladesh tour:
@Chris said in Black Caps - Bangladesh tour:
Did I say otherwise ,Blundels misses some from the pitch and some were lazy poor technique.
Yeah it was an absorbing test match but I prefer a more even contest for all.
I don't know much about keeping so will take your word for it, Blundel certainly let through more than the Bangle keeper (19 v 6).
It is rarely an even contest over the whole 5 days anyway, and so often errs in favour of the batsmen that this made a nice change I thought. We will see more roads than not again in the near future I'm sure.
I did enjoy it as a game,
Blundel should have stayed down a bit longer stops you getting beaten with the low bounce, that way you can keep everything behind the ball.
If you come up too soon it is too hard to get back down to cover the low bounce.I was an average keeper in my day, but had the pleasure of Tony Blaine as a coach for a short while - this was the main thing he used to drill into me. Just stay the fuck down. You can always get up fast.
That and the imaginary semi-circle that you operate in when keeping to spinners, twisting your body to stay in touch of the stumps at all times.Good fella he was
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@Chris said in Black Caps - Bangladesh tour:
Will O'Rourke is an interesting one he is tall hits the deck hard can get it up around 140ks.
Perfect if he can hold his line and length and that is the big question ,he does drop short sometimes which is a boundary in White ball cricket.Was it him you said was in Brissy rehabbing a back injury? If so sounds like it went well for the young fella. Or was it Shipley? I can't be arsed going back to find your post.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Black Caps - Bangladesh tour:
@Chris said in Black Caps - Bangladesh tour:
Will O'Rourke is an interesting one he is tall hits the deck hard can get it up around 140ks.
Perfect if he can hold his line and length and that is the big question ,he does drop short sometimes which is a boundary in White ball cricket.Was it him you said was in Brissy rehabbing a back injury? If so sounds like it went well for the young fella. Or was it Shipley? I can't be arsed going back to find your post.
It was Shipley @Crazy-Horse
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@mariner4life said in Black Caps - Bangladesh tour:
@Rapido said in Black Caps - Bangladesh tour:
@mariner4life said in Black Caps - Bangladesh tour:
Tim southee has forgotten more about cricket than you fucking idiots have ever known
And he said it was the worst deck he's played on
So maybe shut up
Worst pitch to play on and most fun pitch to watch cricket being played on, aren't mutually exclusive.
Although, I'd actually agree with him. Once the inconsistent bounce was added (by day 3, although only day 2 of actual wear and tear) to the crazy spin, it edged into the 'too spicy' side of the scale.
I can handle movement, in fact as a bowler I welcome it
But when the bounce is that inconsistent it's a shit deck, and batting goes from hard to a lottery
And it becomes the complete opposite of T20. Where batsman don't have to protect their wickets to where they can't.
It's instructive just how often a lot of wickets fall with few balls:
For me, the sweet spot is a wicket which develops a response somewhere in the last four sessions of a Test. A result within three days is a shit wicket IMO.
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@antipodean said in Black Caps - Bangladesh tour:
a shit wicket IMO.
I think that has been unanimously agreed (perhaps a Fern first) upon.
Most also seemed to have enjoyed watching it. Make of that what you will.
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@antipodean said in Black Caps - Bangladesh tour:
It's instructive just how often a lot of wickets fall with few balls:
An interesting thing about that chart is how recent the matches with fewer balls bowled is. Skewed heavily by the amount of cricket played now rather than in much earlier times, but there is only one real oldie (1959) on the first page and yet the last page of the 586 tests is completely full of old matches. Last timeless test was 1939.
Draw your own conclusions from that, but uncovered pitches, sticky wickets, poor pitch prep, etc don't seem to have prevented batsmen from staying in. Run rates are indicative of how the matches were played obviously. Loads of other interpretations too. What were the new ball rules in 1928 for example? How many overs before it was replaced? There were 700 overs in that last test...
Edit: would have been 8 ball overs, so the equivalent of 700 modern overs.
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update on the pitch
Mirpur wicket "unsatisfactory"
The International Cricket Council says the pitch for the second test between the Black Caps and Bangladesh was "unsatisfactory".
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@nzzp said in Black Caps - Bangladesh tour:
update on the pitch
Mirpur wicket "unsatisfactory"
The International Cricket Council says the pitch for the second test between the Black Caps and Bangladesh was "unsatisfactory".
The win was satisfactory though
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@MN5 said in Black Caps - Bangladesh tour:
The win was satisfactory though
pitches like that make me want to support 'away team decides to bat or bowl'. It forces curators to make fair pitches; you have to balance it as you know your team is going to cop the bad end
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The venue has incurred one demerit point.
When a venue accumulates six demerit points (or crosses that threshold), it will be suspended from hosting any international cricket for 12 months, while a venue will be suspended from staging any international cricket for 24 months when it reaches the threshold of 12 demerit points.
Seems like a pretty minor slap on the wrist doesn't it?
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@Darren said in Black Caps - Bangladesh tour:
Seems like a pretty minor slap on the wrist doesn't it?
Yep. Hosts 2-3 tests a year, so would take a fair while to stop hosting ... for a year
. Nice work ICC
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- One demerit point will be awarded to venues whose pitches are rated by the match referees as below average, while three and five demerit points will be awarded to venues whose pitches are marked as poor and unfit, respectively.
- No demerit point will be awarded when the outfield is rated as below average, but two and five demerit points will be awarded to venues whose outfields are marked as poor and unfit, respectively.
- Demerit points will remain active for a rolling five-year period.
- When a venue accumulates five demerit points (or crosses that threshold), it will be suspended from hosting any international cricket for a period of 12 months, while a venue will be suspended from staging any international cricket for 24 months when it reaches the threshold of 10 demerit points
So they just rated this pitch as below average.
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Bangladesh is more 'centric' than most. In that Mirpur does host the majority of their matches. E.g. They have hosted 9 of their last 15 tests at Mirpur.
So, two
below averagepoor rated pitches in a 5 year period would have a huge impact.While, a 'below average' is fairly meaningless, even for a board that is so centrally based around 1 major ground.
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Pitches that have been rated poor recently, hav ebeen 'appealed' anyway.
Indore got rated poor this year after one of the Ind v Aus test, but then got appealed and up-rated to below average. And India have about 20 odd test grounds to chose from, so meaningless at a national board level for them anyway even if it stood. But pricks the pride of the local sate board or curator.
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Another recent controversy was a Rawalpindi pitch that produced a bore-draw and was only rated as below average, rather than poor. I also vaguely recall an MCG one from an Ashes series, maybe when Alisitair Cook got a big double hundred, don't know of they had the current pitch rating system then.
11 Mar 2022
Rawalpindi Cricket Stadium given one demerit point for the surface produced for the lifeless opening Test between Pakistan and Australia... has officially been rated "below average" by the match referee and given a demerit point.
In all, 1,187 runs were scored for the loss of only 14 wickets.
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03 Jan 2018. MCG on notice after ICC rates pitch 'poor'
Had the Test finished two days later, the nation’s most famous cricket ground would have been slapped with three demerit points as part of a new ‘name and shame’ system from the ICC that came into effect on Monday.
MCG on notice after ICC rates pitch 'poor' | cricket.com.au
MCG pitch in spotlight after governing body hands famous venue a formal warning
