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  • BonesB Online
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    @Machpants man that frustrates me eh, I don't get the runners high - just the very occasional mild sense of satisfaction but usually just lung "pain" these days. Then again I'm also one of those people who can enjoy coffee any time of the day and not be buzzed. Swings and roundabouts.

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    @Bones said in Mental Illness.:

    @Machpants man that frustrates me eh, I don't get the runners high - just the very occasional mild sense of satisfaction but usually just lung "pain" these days. Then again I'm also one of those people who can enjoy coffee any time of the day and not be buzzed. Swings and roundabouts.

    Good enough for me. I’ll leave running off the fitness regime for another year.

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    Runners high is very real for me. So much so easy paced distance running (Lydiard called it LSD - Long Slow Distance) has become one of my happy places. It's probably keeping me sane enough to continue working.

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    @Crazy-Horse bastard.

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    @Bones said in Mental Illness.:

    @Crazy-Horse bastard.

    I am sure other drivers are calling me that too when I slowly and happily drive home after a run.

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    Around 2019 TR Jnr (now 18) and a mate were mugged, for the most part TR Jnr was fine, had moved on.

    Then one day when at school (several months later) meeting the guidance counsellor, when he was asking him about school and other stuff, he then suggested to TR Jnr he may have PTSD from the mugging, whether he was or not, he decided he was, anxieties, mood swings, supposedly down to this.

    He had spoken to a proper counsellor for a while, funded via the Tindall Foundation, I was allowed to attend a few sessions, and I gotta say, I struggled to keep quiet with some of the BS he was telling the counsellor, he was feeding her what she wanted him to say, suffice to say, after half a dozen or so sessions, the counsellor felt she had done what she could, he claims it achieved nothing.

    We have suggested he speak to someone else now, being a few years older now, but he doesnt think it will make any difference...

    Now I'm not discounting what happened to him, or that it didnt impact him, but I also think people are very quick to go down the mental heath issue path, more so that I think they are difficult to truly diagnose (in that I am sure anyone could convince a Dr they have a mental illness) and likely difficult to cure for those with illnesses.

    My employer introduced a service a year or 2 back, giving access to services for staff and thier families; apparently they burnt thier projected annual budget in a month, and despite this have continued, realising it is an important benefit they are providing to employees.

    As to the runner stuff, I dont run much, but I gym, and love nothing more than rocking up to the gym, put my headphones on, crank up the tunes and smash some tin, that is my happy place, that is where any issues, large or small disappear, even if only for an hour or so.

    Mental illness, like bullying, have always been in our lives, but the world has changed and people are aware and do talk about it more now, but what actually constitutes these things, has changed drastically over time too.

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  • TimT Away
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    @Frank said in Mental Illness.:

    Then there's a few women at my work essentially addicted to anti-anxiety medication (Xanax).

    IIRC, you work in Asia? My anecdotal experience is that benzodiazepines (very potent drugs) are prescribed liberally in several East Asian countries, especially compared to Commonwealth countries. My doctor in NZ would be very hesitant to prescribe them to me, but I've been offered them by doctors in China for several issues.

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    @Tim said in Mental Illness.:

    I've been offered them by doctors in China for several issues

    arbitrage? Buy in China, sell in NZ? Can't see any risk in this at all 😛

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  • Victor MeldrewV Online
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    @Machpants said in Mental Illness.:

    Anyway exercise is starting to be prescribed by some countries for depression, it certainly works.

    It really does. Serious anxiety runs in the female side of my family and my daughter had a real crisis about 5 years ago. CBT and drugs really didn't help but she started dance again for some reason. Within a month of taking up dancing (and now running), she started to get better and hasn't had a serious episode since.

    Most of humans throughout time weren't sedentary, so got their exercise without gym membership.

    This. I do wonder how many of today's mental issues are seeded in office work - remote or otherwise.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in Mental Illness.:

    @Machpants said in Mental Illness.:

    Anyway exercise is starting to be prescribed by some countries for depression, it certainly works.

    It really does. Serious anxiety runs in the female side of my family and my daughter had a real crisis about 5 years ago. CBT and drugs really didn't help but she started dance again for some reason. Within a month of taking up dancing (and now running), she started to get better and hasn't had a serious episode since.

    Most of humans throughout time weren't sedentary, so got their exercise without gym membership.

    This. I do wonder how many of today's mental issues are seeded in office work - remote or otherwise.

    Kids playing hours of video games instead of running around outside...

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    @canefan fuck don't get me started on my nephew, his 160kg dad and my recluse (when it suits her) sister on our "family" holiday.

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    CF Jr can play for hours. But it just makes him someone I don't like very much, very resistant to going out, sullen and argumentative, doesn't put much effort into a lot of stuff, just thinking of when he can get back on the vids

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    @Tim You used to be able to just walk into a pharmacy and buy benzodiazepines in SE Asia.

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  • Victor MeldrewV Online
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    @canefan said in Mental Illness.:

    CF Jr can play for hours. But it just makes him someone I don't like very much, very resistant to going out, sullen and argumentative, doesn't put much effort into a lot of stuff, just thinking of when he can get back on the vids

    It's all about the balance, I think. My oldest friend's son is on the autistic scale with Asperger's and he had a really bad time with depression when he was 10. Computer games helped a lot and kept him quiet but his mum insisted on other stuff. He took up drumming as well which helped hugely.

    He's in his late-20's now and manages really well - cycles everywhere. He designs computer interfaces and games for a living...

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    @Tim said in Mental Illness.:

    @Frank said in Mental Illness.:

    Then there's a few women at my work essentially addicted to anti-anxiety medication (Xanax).

    IIRC, you work in Asia? My anecdotal experience is that benzodiazepines (very potent drugs) are prescribed liberally in several East Asian countries, especially compared to Commonwealth countries. My doctor in NZ would be very hesitant to prescribe them to me, but I've been offered them by doctors in China for several issues.

    There is a guy who is/was famous for giving out whatever at a certain clinic in the city where I live. I have a couple of of friends who went in to get Xanax before their dissertation defenses; apparently it brings you down to just the right level of calmness to answer questions coherently and sound like you actually know what you are talking about.

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    @gt12 said in Mental Illness.:

    @Tim said in Mental Illness.:

    @Frank said in Mental Illness.:

    Then there's a few women at my work essentially addicted to anti-anxiety medication (Xanax).

    IIRC, you work in Asia? My anecdotal experience is that benzodiazepines (very potent drugs) are prescribed liberally in several East Asian countries, especially compared to Commonwealth countries. My doctor in NZ would be very hesitant to prescribe them to me, but I've been offered them by doctors in China for several issues.

    There is a guy who is/was famous for giving out whatever at a certain clinic in the city where I live. I have a couple of of friends who went in to get Xanax before their dissertation defenses; apparently it brings you down to just the right level of calmness to answer questions coherently and sound like you actually know what you are talking about.

    If you aren't confident about your game, just buy yourself game

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    I’ve a bit to add on this but starting point is that obesity and social media have a lot to answer for.

    I’ll also add in celebrities / media personalities throwing the mental health card in when it suits.

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    @MajorRage as @canefan above mentioned, gaming, I'd add that to SM and obesity as a big issue.

    The aggression and bullying that goes on in there is awful.

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  • Victor MeldrewV Online
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    @MajorRage @taniwharugby

    I'd add it's also poss. gender-related. Unscientific analysis, but SM angst/bullying seems more of an issue with the female members of the wider whanau than with the boys. The latter seem more interested in gaming 24/7.

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    Getting old sucks but reading this I am very grateful I grew up in an era when the biggest issue was 'Raleigh 20 envy'.

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