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  • sparkyS Offline
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    sparky
    wrote on last edited by
    #4537

    This is not very surprising news. It's been rumoured for a while.

    Plus sides for the Wallabies

    Experienced international coach.
    Not a total dick.
    Comes with lots of IP from Ireland and the All Blacks.
    Seems liked and will probably bring in decent assistant coaches.

    Downsides:

    He's a Kiwi.
    He's not a great innovator.

    I think Australia will do a wee bit better under Schmidt but I don't think they'll reclaim the Bledisloe in the next two years or defeat the Lions.

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      why any kiwi takes this job....

      it's already begun, rugby superbrain Maaaardo reckons its a shit move and they should have got Larkham. No point hiring another kiwi

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      #4538

      @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

      why any kiwi takes this job....

      Even the exchange rate isn’t that good these days….

      Good luck to Joe.

      One thing that might be going for him in comparison to say Deans and Rennie is that there will be less of a spotlight on him than the other two. The NZ coach saviour novelty/complex is not there even with all the structural and other problems.

      The EJ episode exposed plenty in a really public way (and not just about Eddie), so I would say that expectations are at an all time low. Joe spoke well in the presser and he’s a bit of an old school realist.

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      • voodooV Offline
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        wrote on last edited by
        #4539

        Great move for Oz, clearly one of the best coaches around and available

        Stink for NZ to lose him, but we can hardly expect all our top coaching talent to sit idle and not operate on the biggest stages

        Let’s hope for spectacular success against all non-NZ sides leading to him taking over after Razors unbeaten 8 year reign

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        • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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          Victor Meldrew
          wrote on last edited by
          #4540

          Smart move by Oz. Not just a great coach but, importantly, the antithesis of the loudmouth shyster that is Eddie Jones.

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          • gt12G gt12

            @Nepia said in Aussie Rugby:

            @booboo said in Aussie Rugby:

            @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

            @booboo said in Aussie Rugby:

            Fuck off. Hope you fail.

            i hope he's a glorious success.

            Like it or not kiwis, we need Aussie to be good. And alive. The ONLY way that is happening is if the Wallabies can win shit. Starting with the Bledisloe, and then the Lions.

            If Joe can't win the Bledisloe back, and then they get humped 3-0 by the Lions, and fail at their home World Cup, then we're all alone at the ass end of nowhere, and economics will crush us.

            It might also put the shits up NZ rugby a little if we have to actually work to win stuff down here again.

            I have my reasons which I have outlined previously. My petty grudge has lasted 43 years ... Was prepared to let it ride while he was helping us. But fuck him now.

            Otherwise I'd agree with you.

            Yeah, it's nice to not like the Oz coach, when Rennie was coach I both wanted us to smash them but them to do well for him.

            Fuck Dave Rennie.

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            Nepia
            wrote on last edited by
            #4541

            @gt12 said in Aussie Rugby:

            @Nepia said in Aussie Rugby:

            @booboo said in Aussie Rugby:

            @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

            @booboo said in Aussie Rugby:

            Fuck off. Hope you fail.

            i hope he's a glorious success.

            Like it or not kiwis, we need Aussie to be good. And alive. The ONLY way that is happening is if the Wallabies can win shit. Starting with the Bledisloe, and then the Lions.

            If Joe can't win the Bledisloe back, and then they get humped 3-0 by the Lions, and fail at their home World Cup, then we're all alone at the ass end of nowhere, and economics will crush us.

            It might also put the shits up NZ rugby a little if we have to actually work to win stuff down here again.

            I have my reasons which I have outlined previously. My petty grudge has lasted 43 years ... Was prepared to let it ride while he was helping us. But fuck him now.

            Otherwise I'd agree with you.

            Yeah, it's nice to not like the Oz coach, when Rennie was coach I both wanted us to smash them but them to do well for him.

            Fuck Dave Rennie.

            Damn, so harsh on the coach who gave you two Super trophies. 😉

            I guess the Aussie job was less jarring for me as he'd already coached the Poo so pretty much the same thing to someone from the Bay.

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            • Rancid SchnitzelR Offline
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              Rancid Schnitzel
              wrote on last edited by
              #4542

              This seems like a good fit tbh. Aus rugby needs to start from scratch and Schmidt is the kind of solid if unspectacular coach they need after the Jones debarcle.

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              • P Offline
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                Punch_up
                wrote on last edited by
                #4543

                Joe is merely going to coach the Wallabies. It's not on the same level as say Luis Figo leaving FC Barcelona to join rivals Real Madrid back in the day. Settle down, folks.

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                  Punch_up
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #4544

                  I wonder if Joe will pull Kerr-Barlow into the Wallabies camp. Tbh the way Kerr-Barlow controls the game for La Rochelle these days would really help the WBs against the Lions. It would also give some of those WB 9s a huge reality check.

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                  • voodooV voodoo

                    Great move for Oz, clearly one of the best coaches around and available

                    Stink for NZ to lose him, but we can hardly expect all our top coaching talent to sit idle and not operate on the biggest stages

                    Let’s hope for spectacular success against all non-NZ sides leading to him taking over after Razors unbeaten 8 year reign

                    WingerW Offline
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                    Winger
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #4545

                    @voodoo said in Aussie Rugby:

                    Stink for NZ to lose him,

                    If he can turn around the Aussie test side then it's great for NZ. NZ needs a strong ARU. This hopefully is the start

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                    • NepiaN Nepia

                      @booboo said in Aussie Rugby:

                      @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

                      @booboo said in Aussie Rugby:

                      Fuck off. Hope you fail.

                      i hope he's a glorious success.

                      Like it or not kiwis, we need Aussie to be good. And alive. The ONLY way that is happening is if the Wallabies can win shit. Starting with the Bledisloe, and then the Lions.

                      If Joe can't win the Bledisloe back, and then they get humped 3-0 by the Lions, and fail at their home World Cup, then we're all alone at the ass end of nowhere, and economics will crush us.

                      It might also put the shits up NZ rugby a little if we have to actually work to win stuff down here again.

                      I have my reasons which I have outlined previously. My petty grudge has lasted 43 years ... Was prepared to let it ride while he was helping us. But fuck him now.

                      Otherwise I'd agree with you.

                      Yeah, it's nice to not like the Oz coach, when Rennie was coach I both wanted us to smash them but them to do well for him.

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                      Dan54
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #4546

                      @Nepia said in Aussie Rugby:

                      @booboo said in Aussie Rugby:

                      @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

                      @booboo said in Aussie Rugby:

                      Fuck off. Hope you fail.

                      i hope he's a glorious success.

                      Like it or not kiwis, we need Aussie to be good. And alive. The ONLY way that is happening is if the Wallabies can win shit. Starting with the Bledisloe, and then the Lions.

                      If Joe can't win the Bledisloe back, and then they get humped 3-0 by the Lions, and fail at their home World Cup, then we're all alone at the ass end of nowhere, and economics will crush us.

                      It might also put the shits up NZ rugby a little if we have to actually work to win stuff down here again.

                      I have my reasons which I have outlined previously. My petty grudge has lasted 43 years ... Was prepared to let it ride while he was helping us. But fuck him now.

                      Otherwise I'd agree with you.

                      Yeah, it's nice to not like the Oz coach, when Rennie was coach I both wanted us to smash them but them to do well for him.

                      That's why I find it easier for them to be dead to me. Once they coach another test team, I just shrug my shoulders. Was same when Schmidt coached Irelend, with Rennie, Mitchell, Henry, Hansen when they did other teams. Just wern't on my radar. honestly don't have a big problem with them, but can't bring myself to cheer for other teams in test arena.

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                      • bayimportsB Offline
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                        bayimports
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #4547

                        Good move especially at a time where even the political nightmare that is Australian rugby might actually buy into.
                        He has a ok base to start with and “if” the egos can be left at the door he might be able to successfully build a good team.

                        One thing is for sure is they will only improve

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                        • TimT Offline
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                          Tim
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #4548

                          https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/rugby-union/brumbies-locked-in-battle-for-survival/news-story/4eb0e972b3b1ad2eb5ec713bb93cdc62?amp

                          https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/rugby-union/brumbies-financial-woes-should-ring-alarm-bells-at-ra/news-story/74beedd8e343c0a95d180e5489bc0b04?amp

                          Try archive.ph if you hit a paywall.

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                          • M Offline
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                            Machpants
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #4549

                            What a mess, seems like RA are holding back payments so they can take over the teams

                            https://archive.ph/bOePm

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                            • M Machpants

                              What a mess, seems like RA are holding back payments so they can take over the teams

                              https://archive.ph/bOePm

                              TimT Offline
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                              Tim
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #4550

                              @Machpants

                              There is talk the Rebels may be cut by RA and are understood to be pondering an alliance with the Auckland-based Pasifika Moana.

                              Would that involve MP moving to Melbourne?

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                              • TimT Tim

                                @Machpants

                                There is talk the Rebels may be cut by RA and are understood to be pondering an alliance with the Auckland-based Pasifika Moana.

                                Would that involve MP moving to Melbourne?

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                                Machpants
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #4551

                                @Tim said in Aussie Rugby:

                                @Machpants

                                There is talk the Rebels may be cut by RA and are understood to be pondering an alliance with the Auckland-based Pasifika Moana.

                                Would that involve MP moving to Melbourne?

                                Yeah no idea, as long as NZR don't have to pay for it, like they are now

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                                • M Machpants

                                  @Tim said in Aussie Rugby:

                                  @Machpants

                                  There is talk the Rebels may be cut by RA and are understood to be pondering an alliance with the Auckland-based Pasifika Moana.

                                  Would that involve MP moving to Melbourne?

                                  Yeah no idea, as long as NZR don't have to pay for it, like they are now

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                                  Tim
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #4552

                                  @Machpants Doesn't the NZ government fund them too, as a soft power exercise?

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                                  • TimT Tim

                                    @Machpants Doesn't the NZ government fund them too, as a soft power exercise?

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                                    Machpants
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #4553

                                    @Tim said in Aussie Rugby:

                                    @Machpants Doesn't the NZ government fund them too, as a soft power exercise?

                                    I don't know the details, tbh

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                                    • M Machpants

                                      What a mess, seems like RA are holding back payments so they can take over the teams

                                      https://archive.ph/bOePm

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                                      antipodean
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #4554

                                      @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                                      What a mess, seems like RA are holding back payments so they can take over the teams

                                      https://archive.ph/bOePm

                                      If that's a deliberate course of action, then there are people at RA far smarter than I originally believed.

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                                      • NTAN Offline
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                                        NTA
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #4555

                                        The Australian, you say? One of Murdoch's NewsCorpse papers that death-rode Rugby when it became apparent RA wasn't going to play ball, writing a negative article?

                                        You shock me, sir...

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                                        • NTAN NTA

                                          The Australian, you say? One of Murdoch's NewsCorpse papers that death-rode Rugby when it became apparent RA wasn't going to play ball, writing a negative article?

                                          You shock me, sir...

                                          Dan54D Offline
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                                          Dan54
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #4556

                                          @NTA I had wondered if it was a Murdoch paper . So you then take it with a grain af salt don't you?

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