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    @Catogrande said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    @Victor-Meldrew Parliamentry privilege

    Yep. You end up with MP's like Chris Bryant becoming Chairman of the Standards Committee.....

    Aug 10, 2023

    Bryant Writes Book on Dishonesty in Politics, Still Hasn't Corrected Record for Farage Russia Claim

    Bryant Writes Book on Dishonesty in Politics, Still Hasn't Corrected Record for Farage Russia Claim

    Sir Chris Bryant has written a book about sleaze, corruption, and dishonesty in politics, and has spent the morning promoting it on television. He

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    The sheer brass neck of these fluffybunnies astounds me

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    @Catogrande said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    @Victor-Meldrew

    The sheer brass neck of these fluffybunnies astounds me

    Speaking of brass, watch the last minute and a bit. Also notice how Rayner puts her face-mask on when she's caught out.

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    @Dodge said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    as much as i think the situation is ridiculous and applaud the women who've boycotted his team, the reality is that he has a point - the FA has created this situation by creating ridiculous rules that suggest there are situations in which men can play in women's football, and in his view, he's met those criteria. We should be shouting at the FA in this situation.

    Does he/she have a point? People shouldn't be forced to play a game if they don't want to

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    Also notice how Rayner puts her face-mask on when she's caught out.

    You make some wild assumptions at times

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    Stumbled across this in my interwebbing while looking for gardening audio.

    Debbie Hayes on the Midwifery Council’s Removal of ‘Woman & Baby’

    Debbie Hayes on the Midwifery Council’s Removal of ‘Woman & Baby’
    false

    Petitions are addressed to the House of Representatives and ask that the House do something about a policy or law, or put right a local or private concern.

    Not sure she presents her case as well as she could, but maybe it's a chance to do something more tangible about the creep of this idiocy than just whinge on here.

    Any other literal Hitlers out there?

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    The lunacy continues....woman banned from Newcastle United for saying a person with a penis is actually a man. Her social media tweets contradict their ‘values’ apparently.

    Newcastle United is now a mostly owned subsidiary of Saudi Arabia, where being gay or trans is a criminal offence, which can carry the death penalty....

    Feb 1, 2024

    Football fan banned over gender-critical posts after ‘Stasi’ Premier League investigation

    Football fan banned over gender-critical posts after ‘Stasi’ Premier League investigation

    Special unit set up to root out racism was used to comb through comments made by Linzi Smith, a gay female Newcastle fan

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    The hypocrisy is breathtaking.

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    But.... trans women are women aren't they?

    The prosecutor said one of the officers climbed on top of a toilet to continue a conversation with him. He said: "When challenged with what he is doing in a women's toilet he said: 'Just chilling'. He then said he was there as he identified as female."

    When police arrested him, they found him in possession of a mobile phone and a digital camera. He had recorded material of women using the toilet.

    PAEDOPHILE SECRETLY FILMED WOMEN IN PUBLIC TOILET

    Kristy Dawson  /  Mar 1, 2024  /  North East News

    Paedophile secretly filmed women in public toilet and sexually assaulted tourist on Durham city bridge | Chronicle Live

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    Kurtis Mawson, 22, has now been put behind bars for 25 months

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    Couple of seismic shifts here in Blighty of late.

    Good. This stupid debate needs to die. Leave kids alone snd GTFO woman’s sports teams.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-68549091

    Mar 10, 2024

    Keir Starmer backs ban on transgender athletes in female competition: ‘Common sense has to prevail’

    Keir Starmer backs ban on transgender athletes in female competition: ‘Common sense has to prevail’

    Labour leader says he supports governing bodies’ actions to ban transgender women having previously refused to take a position on the issue

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    My favourite thing about this whole debate is how anyone who knows that a trans woman is a man is immediately labelled right wing.

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    Next step, start locking up some of these doctors that experimented on children.

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    @Kirwan said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    Next step, start locking up some of these doctors that experimented on children.

    Also some of the parents who pushed their kids into transitioning or didn't take steps to protect them from unscrupulous clinicians.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    @Kirwan said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    Next step, start locking up some of these doctors that experimented on children.

    Also some of the parents who pushed their kids into transitioning or didn't take steps to protect them from unscrupulous clinicians.

    This. A parent’s first duty is to protect your children. Nothing else comes close.

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    @Catogrande

    One of the sensible psychologists at the Tavistock Centre told of parents renaming and treating 2-3 year old boys as girls, and pushing hard for them to be transitioned before they started school - on the basis they "liked wearing dresses".

    Pure child abuse.

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    @Catogrande said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    @Kirwan said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    Next step, start locking up some of these doctors that experimented on children.

    Also some of the parents who pushed their kids into transitioning or didn't take steps to protect them from unscrupulous clinicians.

    This. A parent’s first duty is to protect your children. Nothing else comes close.

    Which is fine until medical professionals start telling you that the best way to look after your child is to support their gender transition with hormones. Then there's uncertainty - it would be incredibly tough for everyone.

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    Mate, not saying it’s not tough, but I couldn’t disagree with you more.

    Edit: I just realised that I likely misinterpreted your reply, apologies if so. I was trying to say that the parental duty should shit all over any such “medical” advice but then realised that you were probably saying the same.

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    A group of 16 American women have launched a landmark legal case against the National Collegiate Athletics Association (NCAA) over the participation of transgender athletes in their sports, with their lawyer stating that the organisation has “institutionalised cheating and discrimination” against them.

    With a particular focus on Lia Thomas, the transgender swimmer who claimed a NCAA women’s title in March 2022, the group has filed its 156-page claim at the United States District Court in the northern district of Atlanta, Georgia.

    It was in Atlanta that the NCAA Division 1 swimming championships took place, with the fact that about 300 women shared a dressing room with Thomas - at the time with “full male genitalia” - cited in the complaint. Thomas claimed the NCAA title in the women’s 500-yard freestyle event, with two Olympic silver medal-winners - Emma Weyant and Erica Sullivan - finishing second and third.

    The Olympians are not among the complainants but Bill Bock, formerly general counsel at the United States Anti-Doping Agency and the lead attorney in their cases against Lance Armstrong and Alberto Salazar, is acting for the group, which also includes female athletes from volleyball, tennis and track and field. Bock has told The Times that the “discrimination against female student athletes should disqualify the NCAA from being a sport governing body”.

    It represents an unprecedented action against the organisation that oversees college sport in America, and could lead to substantial claims for damages as well as a change in NCAA rules on the participation of transgender athletes in female categories, which have been tightened since 2022. The women also want to be awarded what they consider to be their rightful placing in their respective events which, if successful, would lead to Thomas being disqualified. Central to their claim is an accusation that the NCAA has made a “radical departure from Title IX’s original meaning”, which is the federal civil rights law that prohibits sex-based discrimination in any school or education facility that receives government funding.

    Matt Lawton, Chief Sports Correspondent  /  TimesMediaSport

    Women athletes launch landmark case against transgender inclusion

    Women athletes launch landmark case against transgender inclusion

    Sixteen student athletes making claim against National Collegiate Athletics Association after some were forced to share a changing room with Lia Thomas, a transgender swimmer who had “full male genitalia”

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