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    Less than 300 to get now.

    SA definitely in with a chance

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    Who gets MOTM ? A guy who gets a double century or a guy who gets two centuries ? Ravindra got a couple of cheeky wickets, that might sway it.

    The bowlers have shared the spoils a bit so none of them in with a shot…..

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    I'd give it to Kane, but suspect it will go to Rachin. Both deserving candidates, but I think two tons in the tougher achievement plus his second innings effort made it look like he was batting on a different pitch compared to the rest of the team.

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    @Cyclops said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    I'd give it to Kane, but suspect it will go to Rachin. Both deserving candidates, but I think two tons in the tougher achievement plus his second innings effort made it look like he was batting on a different pitch compared to the rest of the team.

    Nope, Ravindra got it.

    Well done son. First of many big scores I’m hoping

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    @Cyclops said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    I'd give it to Kane, but suspect it will go to Rachin. Both deserving candidates, but I think two tons in the tougher achievement plus his second innings effort made it look like he was batting on a different pitch compared to the rest of the team.

    I think it would have been bloody close.

    I just give it Rachin for the 2 wickets he got. Otherwise it would have been very hard to pick.

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    Tough on Kane but Rachin's knock dictated the flow of the game and made it almost inevitable what the result would be.

    Williamson fails in the second innings and we had plenty of other batters who could knock off a quick 30-40 each to position us for the same overnight declaration.

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    Just read that Daryl Mitchell won’t play the second test, nor the T20’s against Aussie.

    Bit of a blow, but we have good batting cover in Will Young.

    Or do they slot in an extra seamer and just push Phillips up to bat 5?

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    @Gunner said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    Just read that Daryl Mitchell won’t play the second test, nor the T20’s against Aussie.

    **Bit of a blow, but we have good batting cover in Will Young.

    Or do they slot in an extra seamer and just push Phillips up to bat 5?**

    Either option is fine I reckon. This protea team actually did well to get as close as they did.

    Bring in Wags, everyone else moves up one. Or Phillips goes to five, Blundell stays at six. Whatever works.

    Matt Henry to eight please, he has genuine batting pedigree.

    I would really like to see Will Young get a go though in saying all that.

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    @MN5 where would Young bat? I wonder if they will be enticed to shift the out of form Conway down and open with Young.

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    @Canes4life said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    @MN5 where would Young bat? I wonder if they will be enticed to shift the out of form Conway down and open with Young.

    I wouldn’t be surprised whatever they do but all of those are options.

    The good thing is with the emergence of Ravindra there’s much less of a “oh fuck, Mitchell isn’t available” feeling……

    Conways form is an issue though. I put it out here that he might be in danger of being replaced by Young anyway and he didn’t do himself too many favours against SA. A duck and a streaky 29. Not ideal.

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    Conway was starting to look ok-ish in his 2nd bat before he threw his wicket away via sacrifice to get quicker runs. Which was pretty much 80% of the wickets we gave up during the test.

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    @Virgil I think we keep persisting with him as an opener, we know how good he can be so let's just hope he can bat his way into form before the Aussies turn up.

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    @Canes4life said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    @Virgil I think we keep persisting with him as an opener, we know how good he can be so let's just hope he can bat his way into form before the Aussies turn up.

    For sure, losing form as a Test opener must be one of the hardest places to be.
    you have nowhere to hide.

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    Conway looked better in the 2nd innings still lack of foot movement and his hands being to far away from the body leading to an unnatural arc of the bat are issues, but they were a bit less prominent in that innings.
    He just looked rusty, opening his shoulders trying to get quick runs will be good for his head space and get his feet moving more.
    Hopefully we see improvement in the 2nd test we need him v Australia,Young with his problem of losing his off stump and getting nicked off will,make the Aussie quicks eyes light up.

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    @Chris Sounds a lot like the former CD batsman before him Jamie How. Technique looked good on the eye, but would always bring the slips into play with the very hard hands he would go with.

    Both Young and How have very similar records too, it's like a reincarnation as to how similar they both are.

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    @African-Monkey said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    @Chris Sounds a lot like the former CD batsman before him Jamie How. Technique looked good on the eye, but would always bring the slips into play with the very hard hands he would go with.

    Both Young and How have very similar records too, it's like a reincarnation as to how similar they both are.

    Yeah Good call very similar players and similar weakness.
    Both lose their off stumps so play too much down off stump instead of 4th stump line to the moving ball and both had/have hard hands as you mentioned so they commit to early.

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    https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/uncapped-will-o-rourke-likely-to-play-ahead-of-neil-wagner-in-hamilton-test-1420819

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    If Young is in the team I might play him at opener and Conway at 4 or 5. I am not sold on Conway as an opener in tests.

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    I am not convinced Young is a test opener
    13 tests no hundreds as an opener and average of 26.

    Conway has had success as an opener he just needs to iron out a couple of bad habits that have crept in to his technique.

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    A bit of talk about Conway's struggles, and rightly so, but I think Latham hasn't been setting the world on fire either. We used to be able to rely on him scoring well against teams apart from the big guns, but his runs seem to have dried up against everybody now.

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