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Bledisloe I (All Blacks team room bugged)

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Crucial
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    #109

    <p>If the team is named Thursday morning does that mean I have to wait an extra 13 hours because I'm in a different time zone?</p>

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    • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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      #110

      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="606070" data-time="1471425197"><p>If the team is named Thursday morning does that mean I have to wait an extra 13 hours because I'm in a different time zone?</p></blockquote>
      <br>
      No matter where you are in the world it magically comes out on Thursday morning regardless of time zone. Part of the aura

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      • Chris B.C Online
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        Chris B.
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        #111

        <p>I think they'll go with:</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>Crockett, Coles, Franks, Whitelock, Retallick, Kaino, Cane, Read, Smith, Cruden, Crotty, Fekitoa, Naholo, B. Smith, Dagg</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>Moody/Hames, Harris, Faumuina, Tuipolotu, Savea, TKB, Barrett, ALB</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>Barrett pushing Cruden hard, but I think they'll give this game to Cruden.</p>

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          akan004
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          <p>Am picking a Wallaby win unfortunately. Too many question marks in our backline especially our midfield, and am not won over by Dagg and Noholo yet. Moody will also be a big loss if he can't be ready in time. Am really nervous about this game.</p>

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          • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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            #113

            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="akan004" data-cid="606086" data-time="1471428059"><p>Am picking a Wallaby win unfortunately. Too many question marks in our backline especially our midfield, and am not won over by Dagg and Noholo yet. Moody will also be a big loss if he can't be ready in time. Am really nervous about this game.</p></blockquote>
            <br>
            Sure there may be question marks with our backline, but a reality check on where the Wallaby backline is at might be needed for you akan. <br><br>
            Talk of Quade Cooper???<br>
            Is Giteau, Toomua or Kerevi at 2nd 5<br>
            Kurindrani has been pants at centre. They don't have a replacement other than moving their best player from fullback. <br>
            Rob Horne still starts on the wing....

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              hydro11
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              #114

              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="ACT Crusader" data-cid="606088" data-time="1471429406">
              <div>
              <p>Sure there may be question marks with our backline, but a reality check on where the Wallaby backline is at might be needed for you akan.<br><br>
              Talk of Quade Cooper???<br>
              Is Giteau, Toomua or Kerevi at 2nd 5<br>
              Kurindrani has been pants at centre. They don't have a replacement other than moving their best player from fullback.<br>
              Rob Horne still starts on the wing....</p>
              </div>
              </blockquote>
              <p>Exactly. The team doesn't have to be perfect to still be great.</p>

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              • rotatedR Offline
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                rotated
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                #115

                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="ACT Crusader" data-cid="606021" data-time="1471413781">
                <div>
                <p>Conrad was an awesome player, one of my favourites because he was fearless in defence and was a key man in helping to ignite our wingers and fullback with soft deft passing. But we really only saw that consistently from 2008 onwards IMO which coincided with him getting regular test playing time.</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>All the rotating that saw Mils, Toeava, McAllister, Nonu, Umaga also play centre in that period suggests that the cartel weren't ready to settle on Conrad. Who knows why, but part of the reason could be is that he needed more time to develop his game (just like Nonu)</p>
                </div>
                </blockquote>
                <p> </p>
                <p>Nepia pretty much nailed it but it was a tough sell to get him in before 2008. Those first four years kind of explain why he blossomed the way he did given the chance.</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>I don't predict Crotty blossoms like Smith. Unless you sit down and look at Conrad's career you don't realise how little top level high performance rugby he played. He came in unconventionally (for an AB) out of Universities and the club scene:</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>2003: Debuts ITM Cup.</p>
                <p>2004: Full season.</p>
                <p>2005: Full Super Season, spends rest of the year training with ABs and coming off the bench in dead rubbers. Released for a handful of ITM Cup games.</p>
                <p>2006: Miss full Super Season. Handful of ITM games coming back from broken leg. 2 games on EOYT.</p>
                <p>2007: 3/4 of a Super Season. Out until the last 3N game. Suitcase on RWC.</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>It wasn't a matter of him not having enough time/experience at test level - it was that he hadn't had enough top flight rugby at any level. So once he started stringing together normal seasons and racking up the games at Super as well as AB level he really blossomed.</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>Crotty has been in high performance environments since he was a schoolboy, played under 20s and has been largely uninjured his entire career. It would be difficult to find a soon-to-be 28 year old back in the world with more training miles under great tutelage, more first class fixtures and with exposure more exposure to quality coaching. Conrad I don't believe was in the NZRU set up proper until he was a 21/22 year old. The incremental value of finally getting a sustained, stable shot just isn't the same for Crotty in the way it was for Smith.</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>They are both white midfielders though.</p>

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                  pakman
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                  <p>I have often reflected that we lost in Cardiff in 2007 with a squad including Mauger, Nonu and Conrad, but went for Luke and Mils in midfield. Made more upsetting by fact Conrad played in 2006 Lyon test where ABs tore Frogs a new one. Water and bridges...</p>

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                    rotated
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                    #117

                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="pakman" data-cid="606121" data-time="1471448440">
                    <div>
                    <p>I have often reflected that we lost in Cardiff in 2007 with a squad including Mauger, Nonu and Conrad, but went for Luke and Mils in midfield. Made more upsetting by fact Conrad played in 2006 Lyon test where ABs tore Frogs a new one. Water and bridges...</p>
                    </div>
                    </blockquote>
                    <p>
                    Smith was so undercooked he was a last resort option.</p>
                    <p>Nonu wasn't in the squad.</p>
                    <p>Agree they clearly needed Mauger's ship steadying abilities that he displayed so well in 2003.</p>

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                    • gollumG Offline
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                      gollum
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                      #118

                      <p>2003 Mauger maybe not, 2007 Mauger & I think we win.</p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>Hell, 2007 Weepu would have at least tried a droppie from one of the 300 ruicks we had on the line.</p>

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                      • Billy TellB Offline
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                        Billy Tell
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                        #119

                        <p>No Paddy Tuipolotou...</p>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p>Otherwise seems the A team as far as possible.  Don't mind seeing Squire get a shot.</p>

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                          DMX
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                          #120

                          ALL BLACKS: Israel Dagg, Ben Smith, Malakai Fekitoa, Ryan Crotty, Waisake Naholo, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith, Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Jerome Kaino, Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Owen Franks, Nathan Harris, Wyatt Crockett. Reserves: Codie Taylor, Kane Hames, Charlie Faumuina, Liam Squire, Ardie Savea, TJ Perenara, Aaron Cruden, Julian Savea.<br><br>
                          Happy to see Beaudan starting but I can't say I am that thrilled with the bench. Still some unknown element with Hames and Squire, Cruden does not seem like a great impact player, TJ seems to struggle when he comes on off the bench but the worst is Savea J. I see absolutely no point in having him off the bench or him being in the 23 man squad when he is so off form.

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                          • JayCeeJ Offline
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                            #121

                            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="DMX" data-cid="606125" data-time="1471454208">
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                            <p>Cruden does not seem like a great impact player</p>
                            </div>
                            </blockquote>
                            <p>Judging by Hansen's comments, they will play Barrett for the full 80 minutes if he lasts the whole game vs. bringing on Cruden for impact. </p>

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                              rotated
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                              #122

                              <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/News/29601/all-blacks-team-named-for-bledisloe-cup-opener'>Team named</a>:</p>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p></p><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote"><br><p>1. Wyatt Crockett (48)<br>
                              2. Nathan Harris (4)<br>
                              3. Owen Franks (80)<br>
                              4. Brodie Retallick (50)<br>
                              5. Samuel Whitelock (75)<br>
                              6. Jerome Kaino (69)<br>
                              7. Sam Cane (34)<br>
                              8. Kieran Read – captain (87)<br>
                              9. Aaron Smith (50)<br>
                              10. Beauden Barrett (39)<br>
                              11. Waisake Naholo (6)<br>
                              12. Ryan Crotty (18)<br>
                              13. Malakai Fekitoa (15)<br>
                              14. Ben Smith (51)<br>
                              15. Israel Dagg (51)<br><br>
                              16. Codie Taylor (5)<br>
                              17. Kane Hames<br>
                              18. Charlie Faumuina (36)<br>
                              19. Liam Squire (1)<br>
                              20. Ardie Savea (2)<br>
                              21. TJ Perenara (19)<br>
                              22. Aaron Cruden (39)<br>
                              23. Julian Savea (43)</p>
                              </blockquote>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p>Strange bench compared to those in the past few seasons, but largely predictable side. Well done Kane Hames.</p>

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                                Crucial
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                                #123

                                <p>I'm guessing Bender is covering the midfield?</p>

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                                • CrucialC Offline
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                                  Crucial
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                                  #124

                                  <p>Hey, I saw the team early. It's only Wednesday evening!</p>

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                                  • StargazerS Offline
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                                    Stargazer
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                                    #125

                                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="606129" data-time="1471456754">
                                    <div>
                                    <p>I'm guessing Bender is covering the midfield?</p>
                                    </div>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>Going by the third match against Wales, Naholo can cover the midfield as well.</p>

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                                      kiwiinmelb
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                                      #126

                                      <p>J Savea on the bench who has only ever played 11 and is in not so great form , interesting </p>

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                                      • kiwiinmelbK Online
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                                        kiwiinmelb
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                                        #127

                                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JayCee" data-cid="606126" data-time="1471454705">
                                        <div>
                                        <p>Judging by Hansen's comments, they will play Barrett for the full 80 minutes if he lasts the whole game vs. bringing on Cruden for impact. </p>
                                        </div>
                                        </blockquote>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>Im guessing with no injuries , we might  see Barrett to FB , Savea in a straight swap with Naholo </p>

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                                          dingo
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                                          #128

                                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="606129" data-time="1471456754"><p>
                                          I'm guessing Bender is covering the midfield?</p></blockquote>
                                          <br>
                                          Bender covers 13, Ardie 12

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