Skip to content
  • Categories
Collapse

The Silver Fern

  • Tipping
  • Team Sheets
  • Highlights
  • Results
    • All Blacks

      Search every All Blacks Test. Filter results by year, opposition, location, venue, city and RWC stage

    • Super Rugby

      Search every Super Rugby since match 1996

    • NPC

      Search NPC results. Only first division matches from 1976-2005. All results from the 14 team competition (2006-present) are included

NFL

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Sports Talk
nfl
2.0k Posts 44 Posters 224.0k Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • mariner4lifeM Offline
    mariner4lifeM Offline
    mariner4life
    wrote on last edited by
    #1918

    3 boring quarters of defenses on top of unimaginative offence.
    The whole game came alive 9n that punt turnover because the Chiefs score, and thr niners had to play.
    4th quarter was awesome, and so was OT.

    McCaffery was enormous in a losing effort

    But Mahomes is a deadset freak and is the best player I have ever seen. He won that game. He threw the ball. He made big runs when needed. He did it. Off shit snap after shit snap. Phenom

    You're not supposed to win this often in this league

    nzzpN 1 Reply Last reply
    4
    • Windows97W Offline
      Windows97W Offline
      Windows97
      wrote on last edited by
      #1919

      A captivating game more-so for the contest than the exciting offence.

      KC kept in the game by unlikely suspects, their special teams blocking the extra point and their field kicker kicking two record breaking distance wise field goals kept them in the game. The wide receiver who got the touchdown was his first TD of the season 🙂

      Feel sorry for San Fran, they really did enough to win, one freak special teams play that cost them the extra point is a tough way to lose, literally lost by a fingertip.

      And how about that poor guy who got a game ending injury just running onto the field? Biggest game of his life ended like that? How unlucky.

      mariner4lifeM KiwiMurphK 2 Replies Last reply
      1
      • Windows97W Windows97

        A captivating game more-so for the contest than the exciting offence.

        KC kept in the game by unlikely suspects, their special teams blocking the extra point and their field kicker kicking two record breaking distance wise field goals kept them in the game. The wide receiver who got the touchdown was his first TD of the season 🙂

        Feel sorry for San Fran, they really did enough to win, one freak special teams play that cost them the extra point is a tough way to lose, literally lost by a fingertip.

        And how about that poor guy who got a game ending injury just running onto the field? Biggest game of his life ended like that? How unlucky.

        mariner4lifeM Offline
        mariner4lifeM Offline
        mariner4life
        wrote on last edited by
        #1920

        @Windows97 said in NFL:

        Feel sorry for San Fran, they really did enough to win, one freak special teams play that cost them the extra point is a tough way to lose, literally lost by a fingertip.

        I'm not sure i agree with this statement. Ignoring the fact that KC made a great play, i am not backing against Mahomes scoring a TD on that last drive if he doesn't have the FG safety net.

        Nothing in the game, the Niners made the better start but by the end of the first half KC was starting to even the stats as their defence held SF. The 3rd quarter was a 3-and-out grind both ways until that boot woke both teams up. That was the defining play.

        NFL football is a funny game, every single play matters, and entire seasons can be wrecked by just a couple of missed opportunities.

        1 Reply Last reply
        2
        • Windows97W Windows97

          A captivating game more-so for the contest than the exciting offence.

          KC kept in the game by unlikely suspects, their special teams blocking the extra point and their field kicker kicking two record breaking distance wise field goals kept them in the game. The wide receiver who got the touchdown was his first TD of the season 🙂

          Feel sorry for San Fran, they really did enough to win, one freak special teams play that cost them the extra point is a tough way to lose, literally lost by a fingertip.

          And how about that poor guy who got a game ending injury just running onto the field? Biggest game of his life ended like that? How unlucky.

          KiwiMurphK Offline
          KiwiMurphK Offline
          KiwiMurph
          wrote on last edited by
          #1921

          @Windows97 said in NFL:

          Feel sorry for San Fran, they really did enough to win

          The defense did enough to win. They forced 2 turnovers and the only touchdown they conceded in regulation was when Chiefs were gifted field position due to the punt return error.

          The offense didn't do enough to win and ultimately that falls to Shanahan. Time and again his offense fails in big games.

          49ers under Shanahan have had questionable special teams too - ultimately that falls on him.

          canefanC 1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            3 boring quarters of defenses on top of unimaginative offence.
            The whole game came alive 9n that punt turnover because the Chiefs score, and thr niners had to play.
            4th quarter was awesome, and so was OT.

            McCaffery was enormous in a losing effort

            But Mahomes is a deadset freak and is the best player I have ever seen. He won that game. He threw the ball. He made big runs when needed. He did it. Off shit snap after shit snap. Phenom

            You're not supposed to win this often in this league

            nzzpN Offline
            nzzpN Offline
            nzzp
            wrote on last edited by
            #1922

            @mariner4life said in NFL:

            3 boring quarters of defenses on top of unimaginative offence.
            The whole game came alive 9n that punt turnover because the Chiefs score, and thr niners had to play.
            4th quarter was awesome, and so was OT.

            I enjoyed it the whole way through. As someone said, it was the contest - very good defences stepping up. I like a game like that.

            KC just hang in there. Chris Jones was immense - forced Purdy into some slightly hurried throws. Purdy was exceptional, and often had so much time. Mahomes kept getting into 2nd and 3rd and long situations - just so hard to get out of them agianst a strong defence.

            Shout out for the refs. They nailed it - not even a booth review or challenge flag thrown - there weren't any howlers, and the non-calls all seemed reasonable.

            KC tried to implode; holding in OT to stop the 49ers drive on 3rd down was horrific.

            All in all, really fun. Enjoyed it.

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              @Windows97 said in NFL:

              Feel sorry for San Fran, they really did enough to win

              The defense did enough to win. They forced 2 turnovers and the only touchdown they conceded in regulation was when Chiefs were gifted field position due to the punt return error.

              The offense didn't do enough to win and ultimately that falls to Shanahan. Time and again his offense fails in big games.

              49ers under Shanahan have had questionable special teams too - ultimately that falls on him.

              canefanC Online
              canefanC Online
              canefan
              wrote on last edited by
              #1923

              @KiwiMurph said in NFL:

              @Windows97 said in NFL:

              Feel sorry for San Fran, they really did enough to win

              The defense did enough to win. They forced 2 turnovers and the only touchdown they conceded in regulation was when Chiefs were gifted field position due to the punt return error.

              The offense didn't do enough to win and ultimately that falls to Shanahan. Time and again his offense fails in big games.

              49ers under Shanahan have had questionable special teams too - ultimately that falls on him.

              Just weren't bold enough

              1 Reply Last reply
              1
              • canefanC Online
                canefanC Online
                canefan
                wrote on last edited by
                #1924

                Shanahan is still one of the best coaches in the league, probably the best current coach not to win a SB (Reid can sympathise). Hopefully he will have a robust debrief about what went wrong, and come back better. But he takes us deep into the playoffs most years, we are better with him than not

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • barbarianB Offline
                  barbarianB Offline
                  barbarian
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1925

                  Thinking more about the Superbowl. How did the Chiefs actually win? On paper SF had a clearly superior team. Loaded offence - best RB in the league, two top 20 WRs, top five TE, best FB, and a good QB who played pretty well. Defence also full of studs. Meanwhile the Chiefs had Mahomes, a cast of also-ran RBs and WRs, great TE but not much more. A good defence, sure.

                  And if you look at Mahomes performance, he didn't do anything amazing. That's his brilliance, very much like Brady. There was one deep throw but other than that he took what was given to him. But it wasn't like watching peak Lamar or peak Josh Allen where you think 'what can't this guy do?'.

                  That's why it's so remeniscent of the Brady/BB Pats. You spend all season frothing about this team or that, but they lurk and lurk and then you look up and it's the third quarter of the Superbowl and they are somehow tied with a chance to win. And you just know they will.

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  2
                  • BovidaeB Offline
                    BovidaeB Offline
                    Bovidae
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1926

                    There has been plenty of talk about what the 49ers should have done in OT. I can understand receiving after winning the toss (their defense was on the field at the end of regulation) but you really need a TD with the new rules, especially given the distance that both kickers were successful with FGs.

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    1
                    • CyclopsC Offline
                      CyclopsC Offline
                      Cyclops
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1927

                      Supposedly their theory was that they'd get the first crack at sudden death. That kind of makes sense.

                      Under the old/regular season rules you pretty much always want the ball first since a TD is a win, whereas the alternative theory with the new rules is that you want to go second so you know exactly what you need.

                      I actually think that the right strategy to defer and go for the onside kick. The rules say that both teams get 'an opportunity to posses the ball', which includes a kick off. So if you manage to regain then a field goal wins (and you're only a few yards short of long field goal range), and if you don't get it back you've only concede about 25 or so yards of field possession, and even if they score the TD you still get another chance (since the onside kick isn't considered an opportunity to possess for the kicking team). Onside kick success rates keep dropping though so unless there are some changes to make it a bit easier teams will see it as too big a risk.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      1
                      • mariner4lifeM Offline
                        mariner4lifeM Offline
                        mariner4life
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1928

                        That KC offence offered decent protection, a not peak Kelce, and nothing else. Average running back, below average receivers who can't get separation and can't friggen catch. Except for one throw, Mahomes took what he could, battled his way through the game, and then picked the tired Niners apart. Throw in a couple of key runs at key times, and it was as Brady as you can get. This wasn't no-look, side-arm, trick play Mahomes, this was "do what you have to in order to win" Mahomes.

                        That KC defence is a hell of a unit though. Jones is elite. They have very very good corners, and the whole unit is fucking fast. And they work so well as a team.

                        nzzpN 1 Reply Last reply
                        2
                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          That KC offence offered decent protection, a not peak Kelce, and nothing else. Average running back, below average receivers who can't get separation and can't friggen catch. Except for one throw, Mahomes took what he could, battled his way through the game, and then picked the tired Niners apart. Throw in a couple of key runs at key times, and it was as Brady as you can get. This wasn't no-look, side-arm, trick play Mahomes, this was "do what you have to in order to win" Mahomes.

                          That KC defence is a hell of a unit though. Jones is elite. They have very very good corners, and the whole unit is fucking fast. And they work so well as a team.

                          nzzpN Offline
                          nzzpN Offline
                          nzzp
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1929

                          @mariner4life said in NFL:

                          That KC defence is a hell of a unit though. Jones is elite. They have very very good corners, and the whole unit is fucking fast. And they work so well as a team.

                          some massive plays knocking the ball away from WR. Really impressive.

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • barbarianB Offline
                            barbarianB Offline
                            barbarian
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1930

                            The onside kick idea is actually pretty great. I love that.

                            I'm not sure the decision at the coin toss was that important. It's an interesting debate. On the one hand if you are second you know what you need (and thus Mahomes was always in four down territory) but that can bring added pressure too - the whole game literally hinged on that KC 4th and 1.

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            2
                            • canefanC Online
                              canefanC Online
                              canefan
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1931

                              That muffed punt return that led to KCs first TD was a coach killer. And the offensive line needs beefing up, they don't protect Purdy well enough, and I am sure that affected the run game in the second half too

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • voodooV Offline
                                voodooV Offline
                                voodoo
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1932

                                84e1b37f-8845-4727-bbf3-12f73890b334.jpeg

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                4
                                • BovidaeB Offline
                                  BovidaeB Offline
                                  Bovidae
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1933

                                  Contrasting news for the D-coordinators, Spags gets a contract extension while Wilks is fired.

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • CyclopsC Offline
                                    CyclopsC Offline
                                    Cyclops
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1934

                                    Broncos cut Wilson. $84m against the cap, split over the next two years. 35 one year and 50 the other - hits can come in either order depending on exactly how they do the cut.

                                    The contract has 'offset language'. That means that whatever money he is paid by his new team will reduce what the Broncos owe him. In practice, this means his next deal will be a vet minimum deal because the money will be going to the Broncos not him. That makes him a super low risk prospect for a team that wants to take a punt. (Although there are also ways to structure a deal to get around the offset language but depends on the length of the contract, so will depend on how much teams want him and trust him to stay good).

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    1
                                    • KiwiMurphK Offline
                                      KiwiMurphK Offline
                                      KiwiMurph
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1935

                                      https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1764783349321605414

                                      nzzpN 1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1764783349321605414

                                        nzzpN Offline
                                        nzzpN Offline
                                        nzzp
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1936

                                        @KiwiMurph the cap hit in dead money is the biggest in history. Bigger than the old No1 and No2 combined.

                                        Epic.

                                        Any Bronco fans here? 😛

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • mariner4lifeM Offline
                                          mariner4lifeM Offline
                                          mariner4life
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1937

                                          Fuck your face

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          3
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Search
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Search