Black Caps v Australia
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I think Patel is probably a better spinner than Santner but he is definitely a number 11 which gives Santner the edge in NZ conditions. In Asian conditions (or even the West Indies) maybe Patel would have the edge but then they are probably both going to be playing anyway in those conditions.
Sodhi is probably unlikely to play another given we now have two batsmen who can bowl spin and seem to take regular wickets (hopefully this is not just beginners lucK).
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@booboo said in Black Caps v Australia:
@Chris-B said in Black Caps v Australia:
Wags is probably done.
Unfortunately I think so too
Yep.
however,
We Loves Wags -
With Wags nearing the end, Southee likely to follow and Jamieson forever injured, what does our seam bowling attack look like moving forward?
Henry and Will’O, who’s next?
Will we be stuck with a place holder (experienced consistent first class bowler like Kuggelijn/Tickner) until the next young fulla is ready?
Who are our next generation of bowlers?
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@canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:
@booboo said in Black Caps v Australia:
Fuck
Starting to look like
Jacob OramShane Bond in disguise. Just can't get him out on the field enough right nowFixed it. Jamieson isnt quite the X-factor bowler that Bond was but he could have been the spear head of our next generation of bowlers. With Boult preferring T20, Wagner and Southee nearing the end of their careers he could have taken over the main bowling role
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@Virgil said in Black Caps v Australia:
@canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:
@booboo said in Black Caps v Australia:
Fuck
Starting to look like
Jacob OramShane Bond in disguise. Just can't get him out on the field enough right nowFixed it. Jamieson isnt quite the X-factor bowler that Bond was but he could have been the spear head of our next generation of bowlers. With Boult preferring T20, Wagner and Southee nearing the end of their careers he could have taken over the main bowling role
still can i suppose but generally bowlers who struggle with back injuries never get over them.Jamieson has taken 80 wickets at 19.73 in 19 tests which is beyond World class. Bond took 87 at 22.09 in 18 tests which is sensational. Jamieson has taken less but fair to point out he had better competition to get the wickets in SBW.
But jeepers, is that the price we have to pay for having brilliant performers ? Utter World class brilliance vs periods of constantly breaking down ?
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Feel for Jamieson, he just can't seem to get a lucky break - only bad ones
We had a golden period with Southee and Boult being able to hold everything together but but our attack seems rather thin. Again we will have to hope that Williamson moves mountains once more so we can bat time and post decent totals.
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@Windows97 said in Black Caps v Australia:
Feel for Jamieson, he just can't seem to get a lucky break - only bad ones
We had a golden period with Southee and Boult being able to hold everything together but but our attack seems rather thin. Again we will have to hope that Williamson moves mountains once more so we can bat time and post decent totals.
Yeah but every batsman whose name isn’t Don Bradman has peaks and troughs. He’s just got three hundreds on the trot and judging by the shakiness of the rest of the top order he’ll need more just to compete with this Oz team.
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@MN5 Yeah true however at this stage I have more faith in our batting line up than our bowling.
And as a casual fan I must say I really under-estimate just how good Williamson is, when you take a good look at his record it's not like he's just one of the best in the world but he's starting to join that list as being one of the best of all time, he's up there in some pretty prestigious company (well D Warner and S Smith aside :-))
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@Windows97 said in Black Caps v Australia:
@MN5 Yeah true however at this stage I have more faith in our batting line up than our bowling.
And as a casual fan I must say I really under-estimate just how good Williamson is, when you take a good look at his record it's not like he's just one of the best in the world but he's starting to join that list as being one of the best of all time, he's up there in some pretty prestigious company (well D Warner and S Smith aside :-))
Equally shaky I reckon.
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@Virgil said in Black Caps v Australia:
@canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:
@booboo said in Black Caps v Australia:
Fuck
Starting to look like
Jacob OramShane Bond in disguise. Just can't get him out on the field enough right nowFixed it. Jamieson isnt quite the X-factor bowler that Bond was but he could have been the spear head of our next generation of bowlers. With Boult preferring T20, Wagner and Southee nearing the end of their careers he could have taken over the main bowling role
still can i suppose but generally bowlers who struggle with back injuries never get over them.The analogy wasn't perfect, and of course Kylo is 10x the bowler JO was
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@canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:
@Virgil said in Black Caps v Australia:
@canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:
@booboo said in Black Caps v Australia:
Fuck
Starting to look like
Jacob OramShane Bond in disguise. Just can't get him out on the field enough right nowFixed it. Jamieson isnt quite the X-factor bowler that Bond was but he could have been the spear head of our next generation of bowlers. With Boult preferring T20, Wagner and Southee nearing the end of their careers he could have taken over the main bowling role
still can i suppose but generally bowlers who struggle with back injuries never get over them.The analogy wasn't perfect, and of course Kylo is 10x the bowler JO was
what it is is yet another example of a special talented cricketer who's career is likely to be wrecked by injury
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@NTA who do you recommend we hate on now that Davy Warner wont be playing the tests? (just the T20 slap and giggles stuff) or do you recommend we hate on all of them.
Also im assuming your current wicket keeper is 'smart arsey rubs everyone up the wrong way' kind of guy?One last question, has Steve Smith stopped crying over the time he cheated using sandpaper.
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Man that sucks about Jamieson, such a huge loss. The pressure he consistently applies to batsmen makes mistakes from them inevitable, whether they make the mistake against him or another bowler. Very Glen McGrath like and would end up with a similar record if he can get his back right.
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@No-Quarter his bounce was ridiculous. Any mishit carried up somewhere. Unusual, and bloody good. We will miss him massively
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@Virgil said in Black Caps v Australia:
@NTA who do you recommend we hate on now that Davy Warner wont be playing the tests? (just the T20 slap and giggles stuff) or do you recommend we hate on all of them.
I think hate on all of them then figure out which ones you find merely distasteful. Work your way down.
Also im assuming your current wicket keeper is 'smart arsey rubs everyone up the wrong way' kind of guy?
He seems nice to me?
One last question, has Steve Smith stopped crying over the time he cheated using sandpaper.
Probably not. Suggest leaning over the fence and tell him he ran out of batting gloves. See what happens.
