Quality of rugby media - TV Shows etc
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@Nepia said in Quality of rugby media - TV Shows etc:
As much as I dislike TJ's commentary during Blues/Crusaders-Cantab/ Ta$man matches I always watched Reunion without fail ... I've barely seen any episodes of the Breakdown.
You should listen to James McConie. You’ll love him.
CHIEFS MAAAAANNNAAAAA!!!
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New Wallabies doco is a masochistic watch that borders on black comedy | Angus Fontaine
The show charting Eddie Jones’s disastrous second tenure in charge of Australian rugby is, like the team it profiles, flawed
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Think on the whole discusion on rugby shows, I am a pretty avid watcher of ARP, my favourite, still watch Breakdown even if I find it frustrating, but it's rugby. I do think we all get/want different things from these shows, and as we tend to be rugby nutters, we perhaps enjoy the better format of ARP which is proper rugby, and Breakdown is probably aimed at the more causl rugby person?
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@MN5 said in Quality of rugby media - TV Shows etc:
@Nepia said in Quality of rugby media - TV Shows etc:
As much as I dislike TJ's commentary during Blues/Crusaders-Cantab/ Ta$man matches I always watched Reunion without fail ... I've barely seen any episodes of the Breakdown.
You should listen to James McConie. You’ll love him.
CHIEFS MAAAAANNNAAAAA!!!
Bah, I had just finally blocked that from my mind.
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@Bovidae said in Quality of rugby media - TV Shows etc:
More proof in game 1 that TJ should stick to hosting rather than commentating "his teams".
The funniest part for me was when he was talking about the non try he kind of half missed Fihaki actually scoring his try so wasn't at his usual over excitedness.
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Grassroots Rugby and Mainfreight Rugby cancelled
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@Duluth said in Quality of rugby media - TV Shows etc:
Grassroots Rugby and Mainfreight Rugby cancelled
Boo - they were always a good lazy day watch and gave your average joe's a chance to get on TV
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Thought I would post in here to keep the media discussion out of the game thread.
I listened to the ARP and it was very much what people have been saying - the two ex players focusing on the positive and not looking to blame any specific players. Ross was asking the right questions but Gyp and Bryn weren’t taking it.
Two key points for me - the first is related to my work so it really jumped out. The language they use to describe the game are all ‘intransitive’ in the way they describe play (e.g., the play got away from him) rather than for example, ‘he let the play get away from him’. I think I heard Gyp say multiple times that ‘circumstances’ led to the YCs etc etc, rather than saying ‘he made the choice’. It seems to be the logical extension of the movement in rugby to focus on systems and constant improvement by removing the ‘I’ from the discussion so that teams can focus on improvement. It's paradoxical though - everyone talks about giving players responsibility to react to the ‘pictures’ they seeing, but losses can be explained away due to circumstances (indicating that players can’t control the situation around them). The only time you’ll hear them use personal language (he can, he has this skill, is strong at) is on positive examples.
It was an incredibly frustrating listen and I think that’s a key ingredient.
The second big issue - and if anyone from NZRU is listening , please do something about it - is that these guys talk about stats that the average engaged fan cannot easily reach and certainly can’t reach through the sort of channels that Silver lake money and +NZR were meant to unlock. So Gypper can explain away a poor performance by focusing on an upward trend in key stats that regular punters can’t get a hold of (easily, at least).
Taken together, the biggest issue is that these guys are helping to devalue the AB jersey. At some point, losses - and personal responsibility for those losses - has leaked out of the AB culture. The media has a responsibility to represent the anger of the Nz public, any loss is unacceptable. This idea of ‘improvement’ is a reframing of the ABs into four year cycles and is a cancer in the media.
Now that the establishment has their man in Razor, there is very little discussion (if any) about those in control.
Rant over.
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@gt12 said in Quality of rugby media - TV Shows etc:
Now that the establishment has their man in Razor, there is very little discussion (if any) about those in control.
oh bro, can you imagine the vitriol if this was still Foster in charge? the response has been incredibly tame compared to what Fozzie copped, for a better record in worse circumstances.
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Our rugby shows in NZ aren't good at all imo. Reunion was the best rugby show and that finished in 2012.
I'd rather watch Sydney NRL Journos talk about the DCE situation or Lachlan Galvin even if they ignore their fellow former colleagues fighting outside Rozelle pubs or crash into 3 cars.
Too much fan-boying on the Breakdown
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