Chiefs v Crusaders
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The loosies
Player (mins) Tackles Missed Dominant Runs Carry metres Dominant carries Ineffective carries LJ (80) 10 3 0 6 14 2 0 Boshier (76) 9 2 0 3 2 0 0 Finau (80) 4 0 2 10 24 1 0 - - - - - - - - Grace (80) 17 2 0 8 25 3 1 Christie (80) 28 2 0 6 20 2 1 Gardiner (53) 7 2 0 5 11 3 0 There's ~150 stats per player so I'm just picking the basic ones (plenty of irrelevant ones, every player has multiple lineout throw in stats etc)
I'll do another table for the loosies on ruck work
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@Bovidae said in Chiefs v Crusaders:
@Duluth Jacobson did a dominant tackle early on, so I don't agree with those stats.
Yeah the usual caveats about stats. I'm sure they have a very precise definition that won't always match a subjective opinion
@Duluth similarly missed tackle stats, I doubt Ratima picked up any stat against him.when he shot out of.the line opening.the hole for Fihaki to run through, but there woulda been 2 other Chiefs players with a missed tackle attributed due to Ratima rushing up.
Was there 2 of those mouthguard HIA checks last night? There will be some games these are gonna ruin.
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@Duluth similarly missed tackle stats, I doubt Ratima picked up any stat against him.when he shot out of.the line opening.the hole for Fihaki to run through, but there woulda been 2 other Chiefs players with a missed tackle attributed due to Ratima rushing up.
Was there 2 of those mouthguard HIA checks last night? There will be some games these are gonna ruin.
@taniwharugby said in Chiefs v Crusaders:
Was there 2 of those mouthguard HIA checks last night? There will be some games these are gonna ruin.
Apparently players can opt out but doctors have more ability to take them off the field? Not sure on the exact protocols
Given the tech didn't look up to it I think a bunch of players will opt out soon
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I was reading an article a few days ago about the new smart mouthguards. Players can request a medical exemption but still need to provide a valid reason. Tate McDermott is one.
If a player chooses not to wear the mouthguard during games – even during a training week – and is spotted with a suspected concussion during a Super Rugby game, they will not be eligible for an HIA check and a possible return. Instead, they will be removed and not allowed back on
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I am hoping there are some concessions for teams when it comes to subs around the mouthguard. If not I can see teams being disadvantaged and match outcomes influenced. Because rugby needs more if this...
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I was reading an article a few days ago about the new smart mouthguards. Players can request a medical exemption but still need to provide a valid reason. Tate McDermott is one.
If a player chooses not to wear the mouthguard during games – even during a training week – and is spotted with a suspected concussion during a Super Rugby game, they will not be eligible for an HIA check and a possible return. Instead, they will be removed and not allowed back on
@Bovidae said in Chiefs v Crusaders:
I was reading an article a few days ago about the new smart mouthguards. Players can request a medical exemption but still need to provide a valid reason. Tate McDermott is one.
If a player chooses not to wear the mouthguard during games – even during a training week – and is spotted with a suspected concussion during a Super Rugby game, they will not be eligible for an HIA check and a possible return. Instead, they will be removed and not allowed back on
That's a bit stupid for something that should just be a trial.
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Was also impressed with Hannah off the bench he made a real impact lots of energy, he could do with some more Ks on that frame I know they are working on that.
Newell and Havilli both back next week.
@Chris Yeah he did look promising, first time I've seen him play.
Newell into the starting lineup and I'd say Havili in for Aumua with McLeod shifting out 1 and Crotty out of the 23, he looks well past his best.
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McMillan, though, faces a worrying wait to determine the extent of Chiefs playmaker Damian McKenzie’s a rib issue after a huge hit from Crusaders midfielder Levi Aumua in the first half.
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Just watching the second half now. Stevenson is still frustrating. Incredibly gifted on attack but jeez he lets himself down sometimes. He effort in Fihaki's try will not go unnoticed.
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Just watching the second half now. Stevenson is still frustrating. Incredibly gifted on attack but jeez he lets himself down sometimes. He effort in Fihaki's try will not go unnoticed.
I agree about his defensive issues.
I love his left foot, but I'm worried that his excellence on attack also needs broken field running and a playmaker to create for him.
In international rugby, we may still have the Dupont rule so far fewer opportunities.
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Just watching the second half now. Stevenson is still frustrating. Incredibly gifted on attack but jeez he lets himself down sometimes. He effort in Fihaki's try will not go unnoticed.
@Crazy-Horse said in Chiefs v Crusaders:
Just watching the second half now. Stevenson is still frustrating. Incredibly gifted on attack but jeez he lets himself down sometimes. He effort in Fihaki's try will not go unnoticed.
Even if you're not going to reach him still at least dive ...
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A wild roller coaster ride of a game for a Chiefs fan, they really fell asleep and the Crusaders took full advantage of that.
Tight 5 was pretty good, crucial scrum penalty at the end to seal it so good to see some depth in the tight 5. Vaa'i was very good in the first half, not so great in the second but on the whole a good game. AK unfortunately seems to small to be a starting lock.
Finau was very good, loose forwards as a trio worked but so much rests on Finau for go-forward it makes me slightly uncomfortable.
The starting halfbacks passing game was dreadful, so slow, seems like he can't pas the ball off the carpet and needs to pick it up before he could clear the ball. Meant the receivers were under pressure so the whole backline was passing under pressure and made the play all seem disjointed.
Missing DMac is going to put a large hole in the Chiefs as Ioane was dreadful, thank goodness Nani and Stevenson can kick otherwise we would have spent the entire second half pinned in our own territory.
Mid-feild solid if not spectacular, still given they spent a lot of the game getting the ball and the defensive line at the same time or miles behind the gain line and expecting to muscle it forward they did pretty well.
Nani was fabulous on attack and showed a very good boot, Stevenson the same, Coombes-Fabling just took up space really...
I fear the Chiefs maybe flat track bullies tis year, putting away lesser teams with aplomb whilst being a one trick Dmac pony show against the top teams.
All things said I'll gladly take the win against a Crusaders side that will just get better and better as the competition goes on methinks.
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The loosies
Player (mins) Tackles Missed Dominant Runs Carry metres Dominant carries Ineffective carries LJ (80) 10 3 0 6 14 2 0 Boshier (76) 9 2 0 3 2 0 0 Finau (80) 4 0 2 10 24 1 0 - - - - - - - - Grace (80) 17 2 0 8 25 3 1 Christie (80) 28 2 0 6 20 2 1 Gardiner (53) 7 2 0 5 11 3 0 There's ~150 stats per player so I'm just picking the basic ones (plenty of irrelevant ones, every player has multiple lineout throw in stats etc)
I'll do another table for the loosies on ruck work
@Duluth pretty good return from Christie, high of tackle rate without too many misses, plus his work at the ruck.
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I wonder why Parker warmed the bench for such a long time. He came in at the 75th minute. It's very odd since the Chiefs forwards needed more fresh legs in the second spell.
@cgrant said in Chiefs v Crusaders:
I wonder why Parker warmed the bench for such a long time. He came in at the 75th minute. It's very odd since the Chiefs forwards needed more fresh legs in the second spell.
Yeah, he should be come on with 20 to go. I thought that McMillan was very conservative with his subs.
