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Black Caps v Australia

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  • RapidoR Offline
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    Rapido
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    #266

    Obviously. The make-up of the 11 last night was stupidly lop-sided because everyone in the series squad who can hold a bat seemed to be injured.

    The 4 specialist seamers is unlikely to ever be an 11 in an ICC tournament for example.

    But it has got me pondering on the subject of upcoming young T20 batsmen. Because we are missing here: Kane, Mitchell, Ravindra, M Bracewell, Then Conway injured during match, Plus free-lancers like Neesham & Guptill etc not considered. Now, all of them (except Ravindra) are old.

    Now is the era that the upcoming young batsmen have been brought up entirely in the T20 era. So, you'd think they'd be quite good at it? Well, they aren't, they're flipping terrible at it.

    So. I'm thinking about players of the Ravindra/Allen age and younger who would have been about 6 or 7 year olds when the first T20 International was played.

    It might just be a coincidence, as we have a bit of a batting talent gap in the upcoming generation which look mostly quite mediocre in all formats. But T20 especially.

    It seems to me if you are 'good enough' to make your provincial T20 team at 20 years of age, then you are probably doomed. You are either going to have the 'rare' chance of going all to way to IPL-level riches like Allen. Or, playing t20 early will probably be the death knell of your cricket batting career and you are heading back to club cricket by age 25.

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      #267

      T20 though has always seemed and old man's game to me. Old pros like a 40 year old Brad Hodge type player always seemed 2 x as effective as a similarly talented 25 year old.

      Thought that would change as time passes.

      But I reckon a now retired and 50 year old Brad Hodge would probably be better than all T20 batsmen in NZ under 25 years of age.

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      • RapidoR Rapido

        T20 though has always seemed and old man's game to me. Old pros like a 40 year old Brad Hodge type player always seemed 2 x as effective as a similarly talented 25 year old.

        Thought that would change as time passes.

        But I reckon a now retired and 50 year old Brad Hodge would probably be better than all T20 batsmen in NZ under 25 years of age.

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        #268

        @Rapido said in Black Caps v Australia:

        T20 though has always seemed and old man's game to me. Old pros like a 40 year old Brad Hodge type player always seemed 2 x as effective as a similarly talented 25 year old.

        Thought that would change as time passes.

        But I reckon a now retired and 50 year old Brad Hodge would probably be better than all T20 batsmen in NZ under 25 years of age.

        Yeah nah.

        Brian Lara’s efforts in the recent Black Clash put this theory to bed.

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        • MN5M MN5

          @Rapido said in Black Caps v Australia:

          T20 though has always seemed and old man's game to me. Old pros like a 40 year old Brad Hodge type player always seemed 2 x as effective as a similarly talented 25 year old.

          Thought that would change as time passes.

          But I reckon a now retired and 50 year old Brad Hodge would probably be better than all T20 batsmen in NZ under 25 years of age.

          Yeah nah.

          Brian Lara’s efforts in the recent Black Clash put this theory to bed.

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          Donsteppa
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          #269

          @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

          @Rapido said in Black Caps v Australia:

          T20 though has always seemed and old man's game to me. Old pros like a 40 year old Brad Hodge type player always seemed 2 x as effective as a similarly talented 25 year old.

          Thought that would change as time passes.

          But I reckon a now retired and 50 year old Brad Hodge would probably be better than all T20 batsmen in NZ under 25 years of age.

          Yeah nah.

          Brian Lara’s efforts in the recent Black Clash put this theory to bed.

          That game was entertainment first and cricket second, I wouldn't take it as proof of much.

          Especially with a couple of speculative rumours about his eyesight under floodlights (contrasted with his daytime Adelaide net earlier that week), and from memory that may have even been his first T20.

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          • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

            @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

            @Rapido said in Black Caps v Australia:

            T20 though has always seemed and old man's game to me. Old pros like a 40 year old Brad Hodge type player always seemed 2 x as effective as a similarly talented 25 year old.

            Thought that would change as time passes.

            But I reckon a now retired and 50 year old Brad Hodge would probably be better than all T20 batsmen in NZ under 25 years of age.

            Yeah nah.

            Brian Lara’s efforts in the recent Black Clash put this theory to bed.

            That game was entertainment first and cricket second, I wouldn't take it as proof of much.

            Especially with a couple of speculative rumours about his eyesight under floodlights (contrasted with his daytime Adelaide net earlier that week), and from memory that may have even been his first T20.

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            @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v Australia:

            @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

            @Rapido said in Black Caps v Australia:

            T20 though has always seemed and old man's game to me. Old pros like a 40 year old Brad Hodge type player always seemed 2 x as effective as a similarly talented 25 year old.

            Thought that would change as time passes.

            But I reckon a now retired and 50 year old Brad Hodge would probably be better than all T20 batsmen in NZ under 25 years of age.

            Yeah nah.

            Brian Lara’s efforts in the recent Black Clash put this theory to bed.

            That game was entertainment first and cricket second, I wouldn't take it as proof of much.

            Especially with a couple of speculative rumours about his eyesight under floodlights (contrasted with his daytime Adelaide net earlier that week), and from memory that may have even been his first T20.

            Yeah was disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing more out of disappointment that the most untouchable batsman I’ve ever seen play was so poor.

            Possibly too many heinies in the corp box beforehand too ?

            …..and to be honest I agree. No reason a top spin bowler can’t play 20/20 for years, it’s a maximum of 24 balls for goodness sake

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              Weather not looking flash for tomorrow, which is disappointing as I’m heading down from Whanga’s with my young fulla and two nephews for what’ll be their first live black caps game.

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              • MN5M MN5

                @KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v Australia:

                @Chris-B said in Black Caps v Australia:

                and Tickner

                Surely you jest

                Suggesting Tickner is Ethan Blackadder levels of ridiculousness

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                #272

                @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                @KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v Australia:

                @Chris-B said in Black Caps v Australia:

                and Tickner

                Surely you jest

                Suggesting Tickner is Ethan Blackadder levels of ridiculousness

                Now I'm lost.

                I thought the smiley face after Tickner was enough indication that, to paraphrase Sesame Street, one of those things was not like the others.

                Now you're suggesting he should be a certainty?!!

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                • L Offline
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                  #273

                  Anyone in Auckland?

                  What's the chance of a game today?

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                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                    @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                    @KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v Australia:

                    @Chris-B said in Black Caps v Australia:

                    and Tickner

                    Surely you jest

                    Suggesting Tickner is Ethan Blackadder levels of ridiculousness

                    Now I'm lost.

                    I thought the smiley face after Tickner was enough indication that, to paraphrase Sesame Street, one of those things was not like the others.

                    Now you're suggesting he should be a certainty?!!

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                    MN5
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                    #274

                    @Chris-B said in Black Caps v Australia:

                    @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                    @KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v Australia:

                    @Chris-B said in Black Caps v Australia:

                    and Tickner

                    Surely you jest

                    Suggesting Tickner is Ethan Blackadder levels of ridiculousness

                    Now I'm lost.

                    I thought the smiley face after Tickner was enough indication that, to paraphrase Sesame Street, one of those things was not like the others.

                    Now you're suggesting he should be a certainty?!!

                    I find it’s best and safer to be outraged…..it makes for better ferning overall 😉

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                    • L LABCAT

                      Anyone in Auckland?

                      What's the chance of a game today?

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                      #275

                      @LABCAT said in Black Caps v Australia:

                      Anyone in Auckland?

                      What's the chance of a game today?

                      Hard to say. The rain hasn't arrived yet. It's just gotten dark and gloomy though

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                      • L LABCAT

                        Anyone in Auckland?

                        What's the chance of a game today?

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                        #276

                        @LABCAT said in Black Caps v Australia:

                        Anyone in Auckland?

                        What's the chance of a game today?

                        Strong.

                        But it'll be a Mickey mouse 5 over affair between showers

                        On train on the way to the ground now. Strong only because of the cost of cancelling. So yeah, probably little too no play

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                        • Chris B.C Offline
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                          Chris B.
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                          #277

                          https://www.yr.no/en/forecast/hourly-table/2-6232268/New Zealand/Auckland/Eden Park?i=0

                          If you want to believe the Norwegians - a bit of drizzle to start and then enough time for a game before rain arrives in the evening.

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                          • Chris B.C Offline
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                            Chris B.
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                            #278

                            Catch the fucking ball!!!!

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                              Our fielding is a fucking embarrassment

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                                Donsteppa
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                                #280

                                The Black Caps fielding is like watching Saturday morning Juniors. Except these guys are adults and are paid to train as a full time job.

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                                  #281

                                  Fucking hell, another one.

                                  Atrocious.

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                                    #282

                                    7 dropped catches in 46 overs in the series so far in the field from the Caps...

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                                    • gt12G gt12

                                      Fucking hell, another one.

                                      Atrocious.

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                                      @gt12 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                      Fucking hell, another one.

                                      Atrocious.

                                      I can't watch this. 3 catches. I am going to tune in for the batting.

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                                      • Chris B.C Offline
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                                        Was wondering if Matt Short is related to D'Arcy Short - apparently not.

                                        DÁrcy was going to be the next big thing for a while, but never really got going.

                                        You don't get too many chances to establish yourself in the Australian team. Chris Lynn a similar case.

                                        We would have killed for either!

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                                          No loss of overs apparently. Good shit.

                                          Hopefully the New Zealanders have been in the sheds practicing their catching

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