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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    @Damo I think Chapman makes the squad, but I'm doubtful he makes the XI. I would have Jimmy in as a specialist batsman. If everyone is in form, I think my first XI would be something like....

    Allen
    Conway
    Williamson
    Mitchell
    Phillips
    Neesham
    Ravindra
    Santner
    Henry
    Ferguson
    Sears

    But, Sears could be replaced by any of Boult, Milne, or Southee - maybe Ish if it is really, really spin friendly.

    Aim to get four overs out of Phillips/Ravindra/Neesham/Mitchell.

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    I think that some of the gloom over the series is a bit overstated.

    We were without Williamson and Mitchell for all of it and then Conway and Ravindra for the last two.

    We don't have batting depth outside of our core batting lineup but that is not surprising.

    We were also one dodgy finish to an over away from winning the first one.

    All in all I am not overly pessimistic about our performances.

    The one big plus for me was Ferguson who I thought bowled very well. Does anyone know why he was dropped for the last one? If it is just to give him a rest I have to question whether resting him rather than letting him bowl 4 overs is really what he needs.

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    @Snowy said in Black Caps v Australia:

    @Damo said in Black Caps v Australia:

    He's just never really made it.

    It was only last year he was nominated as one of four for ICC world T20i player of the year. Depends what you call “not making it”.

    OK possibly I stand corrected. He may well have done well in some games i didn't see.

    However I can only go on what I see. What I have watched he seems to be well below the standard that I hoped to see when he fittest emerged. I cannot ever recall him dominating an attack.

    I will admit that I may have missed some performances.

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    Last comment from me.

    I think it is an indictment on cricket that super rugby has started already without us really having had a summer of cricket. I mean we've had Bangles for something, Pakistan for a few T20s, a sham of a test series against SA and only now the season kicks off proper with a decent team and in the media it's all about the bloody super rugby.

    I love my rugby but let's wait til mid March for goodness sake.

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    @Damo said in Black Caps v Australia:

    Last comment from me.

    I think it is an indictment on cricket that super rugby has started already without us really having had a summer of cricket. I mean we've had Bangles for something, Pakistan for a few T20s, a sham of a test series against SA and **only now the season kicks off proper with a decent team and in the media it's all about the bloody super rugby.

    I love my rugby but let's wait til mid March for goodness sake.**

    Word to this post.

    Australia coming here is huge and I’m glad it is being treated as such judging from the ticket sales for the test series.

    They’re officially the best team in the world.

    ( @NTA @Virgil I expect comments from both of you please )

    I can pretty much be guaranteed not to watch a Super Rugby game til about April at the very earliest.

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    @MN5 I don't have sky year round. I use the Sky Go internet package.

    I thought about switching it back on for the rugby but I really could not be bothered.

    That's a reflection of the malaise I feel.

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    #331

    Won’t hear me complaining about there being too much sport on.

    Watch one, record the other and stay off social media until you’ve watched the replay.. simple formula (most of the time)

    But in saying that, can’t blame rugby for crickets poor scheduling this summer. As you say the Aussies have just arrived… and summer is over.

    Rugby has started this early for 20 odd years, and they won’t be changing that anytime soon.

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    @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

    @Damo said in Black Caps v Australia:

    Last comment from me.

    I think it is an indictment on cricket that super rugby has started already without us really having had a summer of cricket. I mean we've had Bangles for something, Pakistan for a few T20s, a sham of a test series against SA and **only now the season kicks off proper with a decent team and in the media it's all about the bloody super rugby.

    I love my rugby but let's wait til mid March for goodness sake.**

    Word to this post.

    Australia coming here is huge and I’m glad it is being treated as such judging from the ticket sales for the test series.

    They’re officially the best team in the world.

    ( @NTA @Virgil I expect comments from both of you please )

    I can pretty much be guaranteed not to watch a Super Rugby game til about April at the very earliest.

    They keeping winning all the World Cups so i guess they are...

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    https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/nz-vs-aus-wtc-australia-make-rare-trip-to-new-zealand-for-high-stakes-wtc-series-1422713

    Such is the infrequency of Australia's Test tours to their closest neighbours, Mitchell Starc and Pat Cummins, who both debuted in 2011 and have played a combined total of 147 matches, have never played a Test match in New Zealand.
    

    Here's the full list of Tests between the countries: Aus v NZ Tests

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    @Duluth said in Black Caps v Australia:

    https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/nz-vs-aus-wtc-australia-make-rare-trip-to-new-zealand-for-high-stakes-wtc-series-1422713

    Such is the infrequency of Australia's Test tours to their closest neighbours, Mitchell Starc and Pat Cummins, who both debuted in 2011 and have played a combined total of 147 matches, have never played a Test match in New Zealand.
    

    Here's the full list of Tests between the countries: Aus v NZ Tests

    Thats something that has never really changed, infrequency playing tests vs Australia.
    Despite being only a few hours by plane away.
    Oz have always prioritized series against England, India and pretty much everyone else but us.
    Was understandable when we were weak but given we made 2 ODI WC finals in a row and won the first WTC you would think we could ask for more tests/ODI's...but no.

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    @Virgil said in Black Caps v Australia:

    @Duluth said in Black Caps v Australia:

    https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/nz-vs-aus-wtc-australia-make-rare-trip-to-new-zealand-for-high-stakes-wtc-series-1422713

    Such is the infrequency of Australia's Test tours to their closest neighbours, Mitchell Starc and Pat Cummins, who both debuted in 2011 and have played a combined total of 147 matches, have never played a Test match in New Zealand.
    

    Here's the full list of Tests between the countries: Aus v NZ Tests

    Thats something that has never really changed, infrequency playing tests vs Australia.
    Despite being only a few hours by plane away.
    Oz have always prioritized series against England, India and pretty much everyone else but us.
    Was understandable when we were weak but given we made 2 ODI WC finals in a row and won the first WTC you would think we could ask for more tests/ODI's...but no.

    And now they finally come over and our best era is over and we will probably get smashed

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    @Virgil said in Black Caps v Australia:

    Was understandable when we were weak but given we made 2 ODI WC finals in a row and won the first WTC you would think we could ask for more tests/ODI's...but no.

    They gave us a 3 test series, including the boxing day test. And we shat the bed.

    It's hard to tour Aus. Really hard. Almost as hard as India.

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    They also toured in 2016 and we went there at the end of 2015 and they beat us 2-0 in both series, effectively losing the 5 tests that we played them in 2015/16 4-0.

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    yeah...

    https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/new-zealand-vs-australia-1st-test-devon-conway-ruled-out-of-opening-test-against-australia-1422786

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    @Duluth said in Black Caps v Australia:

    https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/new-zealand-vs-australia-1st-test-devon-conway-ruled-out-of-opening-test-against-australia-1422786

    jesus exact same time!
    feel free to delete my one

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    #340

    @Virgil

    I deleted mine

    2 secs apart at most

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    So what are we thinking the side look like tomorrow

    1.Latham
    2.Young
    3.Williamson
    4.Ravindra
    5.Mitchell
    6.Nicholls/Phillips
    7.Blundell
    8.Santner
    9.Henry
    10.Southee
    11.O'Rourke

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    @Virgil surely Phillips gets selected before Hairy Nipples.

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    @Canes4life said in Black Caps v Australia:

    @Virgil surely Phillips gets selected before Hairy Nipples.

    Of course. Nicholls isn't even in the squad (last I knew, unless he's come in as cover for Conway's injury)

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    @Rapido said in Black Caps v Australia:

    @Canes4life said in Black Caps v Australia:

    @Virgil surely Phillips gets selected before Hairy Nipples.

    Of course. Nicholls isn't even in the squad (last I knew, unless he's come in as cover for Conway's injury)

    they pulled him in this mornign with the Conway injury

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