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    MajorPom
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    This is a great move.

    Ferrari is F1.

    He will want to be competitive of course, but every great driver should have the Tifosi cheering for them.

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    • MajorPomM MajorPom

      This is a great move.

      Ferrari is F1.

      He will want to be competitive of course, but every great driver should have the Tifosi cheering for them.

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      canefan
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      @MajorRage said in Formula 1:

      This is a great move.

      Ferrari is F1.

      He will want to be competitive of course, but every great driver should have the Tifosi cheering for them.

      Great PR move for both parties I'd say

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      • canefanC canefan

        @MajorRage said in Formula 1:

        This is a great move.

        Ferrari is F1.

        He will want to be competitive of course, but every great driver should have the Tifosi cheering for them.

        Great PR move for both parties I'd say

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        antipodean
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        #308

        @canefan said in Formula 1:

        @MajorRage said in Formula 1:

        This is a great move.

        Ferrari is F1.

        He will want to be competitive of course, but every great driver should have the Tifosi cheering for them.

        Great PR move for both parties I'd say

        Ferrari don't need PR, they require a decent car and less donkeys doing strategy. I can't see what they get from this equation seeing as they need professionalism in strategy and at developing a car.

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        • antipodeanA antipodean

          @canefan said in Formula 1:

          @MajorRage said in Formula 1:

          This is a great move.

          Ferrari is F1.

          He will want to be competitive of course, but every great driver should have the Tifosi cheering for them.

          Great PR move for both parties I'd say

          Ferrari don't need PR, they require a decent car and less donkeys doing strategy. I can't see what they get from this equation seeing as they need professionalism in strategy and at developing a car.

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          Duluth
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          #309

          @antipodean said in Formula 1:

          they require a decent car and less donkeys doing strategy

          ..and drivers who crash less often

          Leclerc is a very good driver but he admitted he was on the wrong side of the risk/reward balance last year

          Sainz has always been sloppy both in the race and qualifying. He seems to get into a lot of first lap incidents too (even if they don't cause a DNF)

          I'm not a Hamilton fan but his consistency is undeniable

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          • DuluthD Duluth

            @antipodean said in Formula 1:

            they require a decent car and less donkeys doing strategy

            ..and drivers who crash less often

            Leclerc is a very good driver but he admitted he was on the wrong side of the risk/reward balance last year

            Sainz has always been sloppy both in the race and qualifying. He seems to get into a lot of first lap incidents too (even if they don't cause a DNF)

            I'm not a Hamilton fan but his consistency is undeniable

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            antipodean
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            @Duluth said in Formula 1:

            @antipodean said in Formula 1:

            they require a decent car and less donkeys doing strategy

            ..and drivers who crash less often

            His stats need to be viewed from the prism of a dominant car for multiple seasons. Of the drivers from last year, Max and ironically Sainz are the only ones with a season without a DNF.

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            • antipodeanA antipodean

              @Duluth said in Formula 1:

              @antipodean said in Formula 1:

              they require a decent car and less donkeys doing strategy

              ..and drivers who crash less often

              His stats need to be viewed from the prism of a dominant car for multiple seasons. Of the drivers from last year, Max and ironically Sainz are the only ones with a season without a DNF.

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              Duluth
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              @antipodean

              Sorry, I added to my post as you were quoting it

              I think Sainz was probably on the way out even if Hamilton wasn't available

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                @antipodean

                Sorry, I added to my post as you were quoting it

                I think Sainz was probably on the way out even if Hamilton wasn't available

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                @Duluth said in Formula 1:

                @antipodean

                Sorry, I added to my post as you were quoting it

                All good, the inevitable consequence of a much required function.

                I think Sainz was probably on the way out even if Hamilton wasn't available

                Possibly, in any other team he'd be near unsackable with his results and name, coupled with Alonso's imminent departure so Spanish sponsors would have a natural heir.

                And my comment shouldn't read as downplaying Hamilton's undoubted abilities, but this would've made more sense to me a few years ago. Not that it makes much sense to me now unless Ferrari got out the calculator and worked out they might've secured second place in last years' constructor's championship.

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                  #313

                  There is a lot of farewell career feeling to this one.

                  I think driving for Ferrari will always be the ultimate in F1, regardless of how they are going. And I think Hamilton just wants to tick this bucket list. If the team was exactly the same (people, results, cars etc) but called Renault, does anybody think he would have moved? I certainly don't.

                  I predict one of two ways.

                  1. Ferrari suck and Hamilton just can't get it together for them. Contract done after a year
                  2. Hamilton gets 1-2 wins and realises he has completed his bucket list in F1, with that the drive to continue starts to ease off and he retires.

                  If I was him, I'd be doing exactly the same move. Mercedes, Red Bull may be the dominant players and best out teams out there.

                  But they aren't, and never will be, Scuderia Ferrari.

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                    #314

                    First race was a bit of a continuation of last year

                    Media talking about some dull scandal

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      First race was a bit of a continuation of last year

                      Media talking about some dull scandal

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                      Machpants
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                      #315

                      @Duluth said in Formula 1:

                      First race was a bit of a continuation of last year

                      Media talking about some dull scandal

                      Not so much a race as a procession

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                        #316

                        Much more focus in the UK media on Christian Horner's private life than anything going on down on the track.

                        That said, what happened on the track was a procession.

                        F1 has really lost its way. Yawn!

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                          Watched it with my son, who is an F1 superfan.

                          We ended up speeding up the middle section. Race was over after the first corner.

                          I can believe that with all the money in F1 that one other team can’t match Redbull’s car.

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                          • sparkyS sparky

                            Much more focus in the UK media on Christian Horner's private life than anything going on down on the track.

                            That said, what happened on the track was a procession.

                            F1 has really lost its way. Yawn!

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                            Machpants
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                            @sparky said in Formula 1:

                            Much more focus in the UK media on Christian Horner's private life than anything going on down on the track.

                            That said, what happened on the track was a procession.

                            F1 has really lost its way. Yawn!

                            Interest of the track in UK media is coe a) we still don't know the result of that, unlike who will be champion this year and B ) it's not UK hero Hamilton on top so they snipe at red bull

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                              Yeah shithouse that seemingly without even trying the leader can build a 30 fucking second gap before he even needs to pit. How?

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                                @sparky said in Formula 1:

                                Much more focus in the UK media on Christian Horner's private life than anything going on down on the track.

                                That said, what happened on the track was a procession.

                                F1 has really lost its way. Yawn!

                                Interest of the track in UK media is coe a) we still don't know the result of that, unlike who will be champion this year and B ) it's not UK hero Hamilton on top so they snipe at red bull

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                                MajorPom
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                                @Machpants said in Formula 1:

                                @sparky said in Formula 1:

                                Much more focus in the UK media on Christian Horner's private life than anything going on down on the track.

                                That said, what happened on the track was a procession.

                                F1 has really lost its way. Yawn!

                                Interest of the track in UK media is coe a) we still don't know the result of that, unlike who will be champion this year and B ) it's not UK hero Hamilton on top so they snipe at red bull

                                This is the worst take ever. Hamilton is barely loved (which I don’t really get as prob the best British sportsman of the last decade) and Red Bull is a British team full of British excellence (an increasingly declining commodity).

                                The media here LOVE a scandal, especially of somebody at the pointy end of success.

                                Boring race at the front but the middle places had some interest. It’s up to the others to catch up, not RB to slow down.

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                                • sparkyS sparky

                                  Much more focus in the UK media on Christian Horner's private life than anything going on down on the track.

                                  That said, what happened on the track was a procession.

                                  F1 has really lost its way. Yawn!

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                                  antipodean
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                                  @sparky said in Formula 1:

                                  That said, what happened on the track was a procession.

                                  F1 has really lost its way. Yawn!

                                  Disagree. This has been F1 forever - a team gets an advantage and dominates. The secret is to have rule changes at an increased pace. This needs to balanced with the cost of making such changes in what is the pinnacle of motorsport engineering.

                                  That or ban Adrian Newey. Plenty of entertainment if you ignore the Red Bull procession.

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    Yeah shithouse that seemingly without even trying the leader can build a 30 fucking second gap before he even needs to pit. How?

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                                    antipodean
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                                    @Bones said in Formula 1:

                                    Yeah shithouse that seemingly without even trying the leader can build a 30 fucking second gap before he even needs to pit. How?

                                    Take the best aero engineer motorsport has seen and add a prodigy who has been trained since he was in nappies to do nothing other than drive a vehicle faster than everyone else.

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                                      Bones
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                                      How does Sargeant not get the ol' heave ho? Man he's cake.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        How does Sargeant not get the ol' heave ho? Man he's cake.

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                                        canefan
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                                        @Bones said in Formula 1:

                                        How does Sargeant not get the ol' heave ho? Man he's cake.

                                        Must be commercial reasons because he's a rubbish driver. Same as Perez. Is he the only American driver in F1?

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                                        • canefanC canefan

                                          @Bones said in Formula 1:

                                          How does Sargeant not get the ol' heave ho? Man he's cake.

                                          Must be commercial reasons because he's a rubbish driver. Same as Perez. Is he the only American driver in F1?

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                                          Bones
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                                          @canefan only one from the states. Perez is at least decent, not like he's constantly coming last and fucking up.

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