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EPL 2023/2024

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  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

    @dogmeat its because their main argument at the time (that the FA bought into) was that it was effectively impossible in modern football to actually work your way up the leagues and MK "deserved" a professional football team...at "fact" we have disproven by not only making it back to the football league within 9 years but also overtaking MK (in previous seasons)

    we have rivalries with teams like crawley and even Luton as we were fighting with them for promotion through different leagues or Palace because they are local and we shared a ground for so long.....this is a grudge

    we didnt get given a new club, we made it starting with open trials in the local park

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    @Kiwiwomble said in EPL 2023/2024:

    we didnt get given a new club, we made it starting with open trials in the local park

    and good on you, but I have to wonder if it would have worked without the impetus of the grudge.

    Either way one of the best football stories of the last 30 years.

    I just think some of the grudge is a bit pathetic (like the underarm thing here). Like not putting their name up on your scoreboard etc.

    You seem to be blaming MK but surely the impetus and blame lies with the Wimbledon ownership of the time. Yes MK wanted a football club but first Ron Noades and then the guy that ultimately did the deal were all in favour. Thye'd have moved anywhere Dublin or Belfast.

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    • dogmeatD dogmeat

      @Kiwiwomble said in EPL 2023/2024:

      we didnt get given a new club, we made it starting with open trials in the local park

      and good on you, but I have to wonder if it would have worked without the impetus of the grudge.

      Either way one of the best football stories of the last 30 years.

      I just think some of the grudge is a bit pathetic (like the underarm thing here). Like not putting their name up on your scoreboard etc.

      You seem to be blaming MK but surely the impetus and blame lies with the Wimbledon ownership of the time. Yes MK wanted a football club but first Ron Noades and then the guy that ultimately did the deal were all in favour. Thye'd have moved anywhere Dublin or Belfast.

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      @dogmeat people dislike the MK fans because they mostly seem to love being hated, they love chanting that they took someone else's spot in the league, that they stole a club, of course the owners at the time are largely to blame, more importantly for getting us into a situation where moving had to be considered but almost everyone is long gone and so all that left is a toxic tiny group of fans that love being hated

      we didn;t put the "dons" up on the scoreboard once back in like 2012, and accordingly got fined, it is one of the contentious points as it seems a deliberate piss take seeing as the club has officially given up all rights to the Wimbledon History

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        City United was surely the most embarrassing game for United in many a year.

        Rashford scored an absolute screamer, then complete duffed two brilliant opportunities that could have changed things. Then Haaland missed one that would be infinitely easier to score, then miss.

        But the United game plan seemed to be allow City to attack them wave after wave after wave. I said to my son at half time it would be 4-1 to City. It was utterly absurd.

        I'm fully on the ETH out bandwagon.

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          His seat must be getting pretty damn hot now

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          • MajorPomM MajorPom

            City United was surely the most embarrassing game for United in many a year.

            Rashford scored an absolute screamer, then complete duffed two brilliant opportunities that could have changed things. Then Haaland missed one that would be infinitely easier to score, then miss.

            But the United game plan seemed to be allow City to attack them wave after wave after wave. I said to my son at half time it would be 4-1 to City. It was utterly absurd.

            I'm fully on the ETH out bandwagon.

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            @MajorRage Yeah, they way he's go them set up is like a team fighting for relegation/mid table championship. They sit so deep, almost on the 6 yard box, they're slow and old, they don't know how to play in posession, and rely heavily on playing on the break with the simple long ball over the top.

            The concerning thing about Ten Hag is how he has the team playing. Look at Tottenham, Brighton and Bournemouth. Yes they're 5th, 9th and 12th, but the way they play in posession is a joy to watch.

            Man U just sit 10 men behind the ball and hope for the best (which hs worked well for them as they somehow sit 6th when 14th would be a fairer reflection on how they play).

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              Absolutely chuffed at how well Aston Villa are doing this season. I'm like a pig in shit to be honest. Martinez brilliant in goal, Pau Torres looks like world-class centre back, McGinn is fantastic in the engine room, Bailey has been a revelation on the wing and Watkins is on fire up front. I love the passion and commitment of the whole squad. Unai Emery is cooking something very special.

              The only downer has been all those injuries. Fingers crossed for the last third of the season.

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              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                once again, not EPL but have to post this, Wimbledon beat MK Franchise in the 94th minute, every win we get just proves they shouldn't exist, look at those scenes!

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                @Kiwiwomble Great scenes. I'd didn't seen any other fans half as passionate this weekend.

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                  United's game plan wasn't terrible but they couldn't keep it up - Chelsea managed it better at the Etihad by pressing the City midfield harder to disrupt the flow and get turnovers. Although Chelsea got deeper and deeper in the 2nd half, I think it gets harder and harder to keep up the work rate. Thought Rashford and Garnacho were awful at working hard to keep the ball whenever they did get it - Rashford as usual looks disinterested and Garnacho probably shouldn't be starting every week at this stage in his career - he was being bullied.

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                  • sparkyS sparky

                    @Kiwiwomble Great scenes. I'd didn't seen any other fans half as passionate this weekend.

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                    @sparky said in EPL 2023/2024:

                    @Kiwiwomble Great scenes. I'd didn't seen any other fans half as passionate this weekend.

                    the attendance is also under 8K, a compact stadium can do wonders to generate some atmosphere, 3 of the 4 stands are semi temp (permanent foundations with more than scaffold but basically just a steel frame) to allow for further development if we ever progress up the league, the ground also has a pub that is packed after games to generate some extra money

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                    • sparkyS sparky

                      Absolutely chuffed at how well Aston Villa are doing this season. I'm like a pig in shit to be honest. Martinez brilliant in goal, Pau Torres looks like world-class centre back, McGinn is fantastic in the engine room, Bailey has been a revelation on the wing and Watkins is on fire up front. I love the passion and commitment of the whole squad. Unai Emery is cooking something very special.

                      The only downer has been all those injuries. Fingers crossed for the last third of the season.

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                      @sparky Konsa coming back is a big bonus, and Torres I hope isn't too seriously injured but credit to Lenglet, he's been good of late.

                      Looks like Ramsey will be out for a bit so Rogers will get a go I assume, although I would like to see Diaby played on the left, but Emery doesn't seem keen on it.

                      European football starts again for us, so 2 games a week starting with Ajax on Friday NZ time.

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                        Damn, Arsenal's streak of scoring at least 2 goals in a half is over. 😉

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                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                          @dogmeat its because their main argument at the time (that the FA bought into) was that it was effectively impossible in modern football to actually work your way up the leagues and MK "deserved" a professional football team...at "fact" we have disproven by not only making it back to the football league within 9 years but also overtaking MK (in previous seasons)

                          we have rivalries with teams like crawley and even Luton as we were fighting with them for promotion through different leagues or Palace because they are local and we shared a ground for so long.....this is a grudge

                          we didnt get given a new club, we made it starting with open trials in the local park

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                          @Kiwiwomble said in EPL 2023/2024:

                          @dogmeat its because their main argument at the time (that the FA bought into) was that it was effectively impossible in modern football to actually work your way up the leagues and MK "deserved" a professional football team...at "fact" we have disproven by not only making it back to the football league within 9 years but also overtaking MK (in previous seasons)

                          Please don't take this the wrong way, I like the AFC Wimbledon story, but fueled by the injustice of the move to Milton Keynes you already had a fan base of what 4-5,000. You were inevitably going to progress rapidly up the pyramid.

                          Personally, I think anyone living in MK deserves sympathy, not opprobrium.

                          Great that you can enjoy such a bitter rivalry - for both sets of fans.

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                            @Kiwiwomble said in EPL 2023/2024:

                            @dogmeat its because their main argument at the time (that the FA bought into) was that it was effectively impossible in modern football to actually work your way up the leagues and MK "deserved" a professional football team...at "fact" we have disproven by not only making it back to the football league within 9 years but also overtaking MK (in previous seasons)

                            Please don't take this the wrong way, I like the AFC Wimbledon story, but fueled by the injustice of the move to Milton Keynes you already had a fan base of what 4-5,000. You were inevitably going to progress rapidly up the pyramid.

                            Personally, I think anyone living in MK deserves sympathy, not opprobrium.

                            Great that you can enjoy such a bitter rivalry - for both sets of fans.

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                            @dogmeat too be clear...definitely don't enjoy it, would be happy to never play them again, lots of the fan base would never go up to watch the away game and only go to the home game to put some money in the club coffers

                            dont have a lot of sympathy, MK had a couple of teams (MK City) before hand...they never really got behind them, seem to have always had a mentality of they just deserved a pro team without having to earn it

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                              Sheffield conceded another 6 goals today. That's 72 in only 27 games. Keep that rate up and they will let in 101 by the end of the season.

                              Previously Swindon have the worst record (100 in the early 90's) but that was in a 42 game season.

                              The most in a 20 team league is only 89 by the infamous Derby side. The Blades will easily surpass that . The only consolation is that they have already scored more than the record low. Unfortunately that is a record they already hold (20 in 20/21) shared with Derby.

                              It looks odds on that in consecutive seasons in the EPL they will score the least goals and conceded the most.

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                              • dogmeatD dogmeat

                                Sheffield conceded another 6 goals today. That's 72 in only 27 games. Keep that rate up and they will let in 101 by the end of the season.

                                Previously Swindon have the worst record (100 in the early 90's) but that was in a 42 game season.

                                The most in a 20 team league is only 89 by the infamous Derby side. The Blades will easily surpass that . The only consolation is that they have already scored more than the record low. Unfortunately that is a record they already hold (20 in 20/21) shared with Derby.

                                It looks odds on that in consecutive seasons in the EPL they will score the least goals and conceded the most.

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                                @dogmeat said in EPL 2023/2024:

                                Sheffield conceded another 6 goals today. That's 72 in only 27 games. Keep that rate up and they will let in 101 by the end of the season.

                                They became the first English club in the Top 4 Divisions to lose three straight home games by 5+ goals.

                                Fans were walking out after 15 mins.

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                                  Must be tough for a season ticket holder - I think most fans would have expected a relegation fight and probable relegation but hoped for something more like Luton's season.

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                                    Bournemouth have been ordinary at home and have been seriously guilty of missing many attempts of late. Im expecting 0-0 or 1-0 win over Shef U with something like 30 attempts on target.

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                                      Bournemouth have been ordinary at home and have been seriously guilty of missing many attempts of late. Im expecting 0-0 or 1-0 win over Shef U with something like 30 attempts on target.

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                                      dogmeat
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                                      @bayimports We dropped 5 points to Burnley. That's the definition of average. Made up by getting 4 off Arse

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                                      • dogmeatD dogmeat

                                        @bayimports We dropped 5 points to Burnley. That's the definition of average. Made up by getting 4 off Arse

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                                        @dogmeat said in EPL 2023/2024:

                                        @bayimports We dropped 5 points to Burnley. That's the definition of average. Made up by getting 4 off Arse

                                        At least you're well out of relegation land now! Seriously good result against BHA as well and expecting you to topple Wolves as well with their current injuries

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                                          The mystery is how Luton lost to Sheffield. Could be a very costly loss.

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