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  • KiwiwombleK Online
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    Kiwiwomble
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    its all really sad, for a brief moment after the RWC announcement and with the lions coming...there looked like there was some good things coming for rugby in Aus

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      How in the fuck does one team rack up debts that amount to 75% of the national broadcast revenue? That kind of figure blows the "this is because the ARU weren't paying us enough" out the window, because it looks a lot like they were living waaaay beyond their means.

      Rugby in Australia apparently needs to get past the notion that it's competing with the NRL and the AFL, and realise it's actually competing with the A-League (who, incidentally, get $10m more a year out of their broadcast deal). A niche domestic sport with a strong international presence.

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        Actually, speaking of the NRL, all this shit makes the decision to pay Joseph Sua'ali'i $1.5m a year (or 5% of the annual broadcast revenue) not only stupid, but criminally negligent.

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          How in the fuck does one team rack up debts that amount to 75% of the national broadcast revenue? That kind of figure blows the "this is because the ARU weren't paying us enough" out the window, because it looks a lot like they were living waaaay beyond their means.

          Rugby in Australia apparently needs to get past the notion that it's competing with the NRL and the AFL, and realise it's actually competing with the A-League (who, incidentally, get $10m more a year out of their broadcast deal). A niche domestic sport with a strong international presence.

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          Kiwiwomble
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          #4690

          @mariner4life said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

          How in the fuck does one team rack up debts that amount to 75% of the national broadcast revenue? That kind of figure blows the "this is because the ARU weren't paying us enough" out the window, because it looks a lot like they were living waaaay beyond their means.

          Rugby in Australia apparently needs to get past the notion that it's competing with the NRL and the AFL, and realise it's actually competing with the A-League (who, incidentally, get $10m more a year out of their broadcast deal). A niche domestic sport with a strong international presence.

          and a sport that has managed to grow to 3 professional teams in melbourne, thats better than the NRL has even managed...but they have also kept it small and well connected to the metro club scene

          and south melbourne always waiting in the wings to join the A League

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            Actually, speaking of the NRL, all this shit makes the decision to pay Joseph Sua'ali'i $1.5m a year (or 5% of the annual broadcast revenue) not only stupid, but criminally negligent.

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            @mariner4life said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

            Actually, speaking of the NRL, all this shit makes the decision to pay Joseph Sua'ali'i $1.5m a year (or 5% of the annual broadcast revenue) not only stupid, but criminally negligent.

            'I'd do it all again'

            alt text

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            • antipodeanA antipodean

              @mariner4life said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

              Actually, speaking of the NRL, all this shit makes the decision to pay Joseph Sua'ali'i $1.5m a year (or 5% of the annual broadcast revenue) not only stupid, but criminally negligent.

              'I'd do it all again'

              alt text

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              @antipodean said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

              @mariner4life said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

              Actually, speaking of the NRL, all this shit makes the decision to pay Joseph Sua'ali'i $1.5m a year (or 5% of the annual broadcast revenue) not only stupid, but criminally negligent.

              'I'd do it all again'

              alt text

              you wouldn't buy a used car from that fluffybunny would you?

              (at least Peter V'Landys looks like he is straight up trying to cheat you)

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                Actually, speaking of the NRL, all this shit makes the decision to pay Joseph Sua'ali'i $1.5m a year (or 5% of the annual broadcast revenue) not only stupid, but criminally negligent.

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                @mariner4life said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                Actually, speaking of the NRL, all this shit makes the decision to pay Joseph Sua'ali'i $1.5m a year (or 5% of the annual broadcast revenue) not only stupid, but criminally negligent.

                I agree, but I'm not sure how much of that 1.5 mill is third party deals

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                • M Machpants

                  @mariner4life said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                  Actually, speaking of the NRL, all this shit makes the decision to pay Joseph Sua'ali'i $1.5m a year (or 5% of the annual broadcast revenue) not only stupid, but criminally negligent.

                  I agree, but I'm not sure how much of that 1.5 mill is third party deals

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                  @Machpants said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                  @mariner4life said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                  Actually, speaking of the NRL, all this shit makes the decision to pay Joseph Sua'ali'i $1.5m a year (or 5% of the annual broadcast revenue) not only stupid, but criminally negligent.

                  I agree, but I'm not sure how much of that 1.5 mill is third party deals

                  Speaks volumes when those third party deals would be better as general sponsorship. Getting Sua'ali'i doesn't fix the problems at SR level.

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                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                    @Machpants said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                    @mariner4life said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                    Actually, speaking of the NRL, all this shit makes the decision to pay Joseph Sua'ali'i $1.5m a year (or 5% of the annual broadcast revenue) not only stupid, but criminally negligent.

                    I agree, but I'm not sure how much of that 1.5 mill is third party deals

                    Speaks volumes when those third party deals would be better as general sponsorship. Getting Sua'ali'i doesn't fix the problems at SR level.

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                    #4695

                    @antipodean said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                    @Machpants said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                    @mariner4life said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                    Actually, speaking of the NRL, all this shit makes the decision to pay Joseph Sua'ali'i $1.5m a year (or 5% of the annual broadcast revenue) not only stupid, but criminally negligent.

                    I agree, but I'm not sure how much of that 1.5 mill is third party deals

                    Speaks volumes when those third party deals would be better as general sponsorship. Getting Sua'ali'i doesn't fix the problems at SR level.

                    Yup, but often you won't get that money otherwise. People like the big names

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                    • M Machpants

                      @antipodean said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                      @Machpants said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                      @mariner4life said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                      Actually, speaking of the NRL, all this shit makes the decision to pay Joseph Sua'ali'i $1.5m a year (or 5% of the annual broadcast revenue) not only stupid, but criminally negligent.

                      I agree, but I'm not sure how much of that 1.5 mill is third party deals

                      Speaks volumes when those third party deals would be better as general sponsorship. Getting Sua'ali'i doesn't fix the problems at SR level.

                      Yup, but often you won't get that money otherwise. People like the big names

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                      #4696

                      @Machpants said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                      @antipodean said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                      @Machpants said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                      @mariner4life said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                      Actually, speaking of the NRL, all this shit makes the decision to pay Joseph Sua'ali'i $1.5m a year (or 5% of the annual broadcast revenue) not only stupid, but criminally negligent.

                      I agree, but I'm not sure how much of that 1.5 mill is third party deals

                      Speaks volumes when those third party deals would be better as general sponsorship. Getting Sua'ali'i doesn't fix the problems at SR level.

                      Yup, but often you won't get that money otherwise. People like the big names

                      that's the kind of thinking that leads to Russell Wilson!

                      @mariner4life trolling you again my dude

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                        Ha, by people I was meaning those with the sponsorship money to throw around. The want the big names doing stuff for their brand, which is part of the 3P deals

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                        • nzzpN nzzp

                          @Machpants said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                          @antipodean said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                          @Machpants said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                          @mariner4life said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                          Actually, speaking of the NRL, all this shit makes the decision to pay Joseph Sua'ali'i $1.5m a year (or 5% of the annual broadcast revenue) not only stupid, but criminally negligent.

                          I agree, but I'm not sure how much of that 1.5 mill is third party deals

                          Speaks volumes when those third party deals would be better as general sponsorship. Getting Sua'ali'i doesn't fix the problems at SR level.

                          Yup, but often you won't get that money otherwise. People like the big names

                          that's the kind of thinking that leads to Russell Wilson!

                          @mariner4life trolling you again my dude

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                          @nzzp said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                          @Machpants said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                          @antipodean said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                          @Machpants said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                          @mariner4life said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                          Actually, speaking of the NRL, all this shit makes the decision to pay Joseph Sua'ali'i $1.5m a year (or 5% of the annual broadcast revenue) not only stupid, but criminally negligent.

                          I agree, but I'm not sure how much of that 1.5 mill is third party deals

                          Speaks volumes when those third party deals would be better as general sponsorship. Getting Sua'ali'i doesn't fix the problems at SR level.

                          Yup, but often you won't get that money otherwise. People like the big names

                          that's the kind of thinking that leads to Russell Wilson!

                          @mariner4life trolling you again my dude

                          isn't there a fire somewhere you can die in?

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                          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                            @nzzp said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                            @Machpants said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                            @antipodean said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                            @Machpants said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                            @mariner4life said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                            Actually, speaking of the NRL, all this shit makes the decision to pay Joseph Sua'ali'i $1.5m a year (or 5% of the annual broadcast revenue) not only stupid, but criminally negligent.

                            I agree, but I'm not sure how much of that 1.5 mill is third party deals

                            Speaks volumes when those third party deals would be better as general sponsorship. Getting Sua'ali'i doesn't fix the problems at SR level.

                            Yup, but often you won't get that money otherwise. People like the big names

                            that's the kind of thinking that leads to Russell Wilson!

                            @mariner4life trolling you again my dude

                            isn't there a fire somewhere you can die in?

                            nzzpN Online
                            nzzpN Online
                            nzzp
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                            #4699

                            @mariner4life said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                            @nzzp said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                            @Machpants said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                            @antipodean said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                            @Machpants said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                            @mariner4life said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                            Actually, speaking of the NRL, all this shit makes the decision to pay Joseph Sua'ali'i $1.5m a year (or 5% of the annual broadcast revenue) not only stupid, but criminally negligent.

                            I agree, but I'm not sure how much of that 1.5 mill is third party deals

                            Speaks volumes when those third party deals would be better as general sponsorship. Getting Sua'ali'i doesn't fix the problems at SR level.

                            Yup, but often you won't get that money otherwise. People like the big names

                            that's the kind of thinking that leads to Russell Wilson!

                            @mariner4life trolling you again my dude

                            isn't there a fire somewhere you can die in?

                            alt text

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                              financial fuck ups aside

                              I'm reading that Laurie Fisher is being brought back in as a Wallaby assistant. This question is aimed squarely at the Aussies

                              Is this guy hugely overrated or what? He seems to be constantly brought up as the answer to what ever problem the Wallabies currently have.
                              He's been forwards coach. He's been defense coach. Two areas the Wallabies have been shit in for ages. Also two areas where the Wallabies have appalling discipline.
                              I know he wasn't there for last years shit show, but he was there before that, and his specific areas were pretty friggen average.

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                                I'm a fan of his. Was the driving force behind a lot of the Brumbies success, especially at set piece. Seems like a nice guy who is well liked and respected.

                                His stint under Rennie was pretty brief, and it all went pretty solidly to shit once Eddie punted him. So I think that judgement is a little harsh.

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                                  i bow to your superior knowledge

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    financial fuck ups aside

                                    I'm reading that Laurie Fisher is being brought back in as a Wallaby assistant. This question is aimed squarely at the Aussies

                                    Is this guy hugely overrated or what? He seems to be constantly brought up as the answer to what ever problem the Wallabies currently have.
                                    He's been forwards coach. He's been defense coach. Two areas the Wallabies have been shit in for ages. Also two areas where the Wallabies have appalling discipline.
                                    I know he wasn't there for last years shit show, but he was there before that, and his specific areas were pretty friggen average.

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                                    @mariner4life said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                                    financial fuck ups aside

                                    I'm reading that Laurie Fisher is being brought back in as a Wallaby assistant. This question is aimed squarely at the Aussies

                                    Is this guy hugely overrated or what? He seems to be constantly brought up as the answer to what ever problem the Wallabies currently have.
                                    He's been forwards coach. He's been defense coach. Two areas the Wallabies have been shit in for ages. Also two areas where the Wallabies have appalling discipline.
                                    I know he wasn't there for last years shit show, but he was there before that, and his specific areas were pretty friggen average.

                                    He has a big reputation in Canberra. Most people consider his coaching fundamental to the Brumbies' accuracy and competence at set piece.

                                    Whether his ideas have kept pace with modern rugby is anyone's guess.

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                                    • KiwiMurphK Online
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                                      Laurie Fisher as Wallaby defence coach is a fuck ton better than Eddie's plan of Brett Hodgson as Wallaby defence coach.

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                                        Laurie Fisher as Wallaby defence coach is a fuck ton better than Eddie's plan of Brett Hodgson as Wallaby defence coach.

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                                        You could easily say

                                        @KiwiMurph said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                                        Laurie Fisher NTA as Wallaby defence coach is a fuck ton better than Eddie's plan of Brett Hodgson as Wallaby defence coach.

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                                          As if the Jones disaster could be any worse, and who signed it off? Unless Eddie could do that himself?

                                          “The over-investment that was unapproved was $2.6 million, which covered three main elements, being team costs, staff travel and then player benefits,” Waugh told reporters.

                                          https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/03/07/more-transparent-for-players-ra-reacts-to-eddies-rwc-selection-debacle-as-23-review-recommendations-revealed/

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