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@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@KiwiPie said in Other Cricket:
I started watching after 4 down and to be honest, the pitch seemed to be behaving pretty well and the batters never looked in much trouble. Stokes deserves a lot of credit for his captaincy and the way he has handled his young spinners - he's shown faith in them and not been scared off by the odd bad ball. The trouble is that they may not get a look in for the home tests, somewhat like the NZ spinners.
Root should have stuck at number 3 a few years ago like Kane did instead of running scared to number 4. He's the best batsman and that batsman should be at 3.
Not always the case. Lara often batted four and Tendulkar always did ( Root doesn’t have a Dravid equivalent in the team though )
A good number 3, a very good number 3 in fact needs to be a semi opener. They can easily be thrust into the opening role if 1 or 2 goes out early. That means they have to be good with a moving ball, have the ability to blunt an early attack. Whis is something Kane Williamson does very very well.
Thats what Dravid (the wall) did
Had a look at Joe Roots stats, he only averages 39 batting at 3, where as he averages 51 at 4.@Virgil said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@KiwiPie said in Other Cricket:
I started watching after 4 down and to be honest, the pitch seemed to be behaving pretty well and the batters never looked in much trouble. Stokes deserves a lot of credit for his captaincy and the way he has handled his young spinners - he's shown faith in them and not been scared off by the odd bad ball. The trouble is that they may not get a look in for the home tests, somewhat like the NZ spinners.
Root should have stuck at number 3 a few years ago like Kane did instead of running scared to number 4. He's the best batsman and that batsman should be at 3.
Not always the case. Lara often batted four and Tendulkar always did ( Root doesn’t have a Dravid equivalent in the team though )
A good number 3, a very good number 3 in fact needs to be a semi opener. They can easily be thrust into the opening role if 1 or 2 goes out early. That means they have to be good with a moving ball, have the ability to blunt an early attack. Whis is something Kane Williamson does very very well.
Thats what Dravid (the wall) did
Had a look at Joe Roots stats, he only averages 39 batting at 3, where as he averages 51 at 4.Stephen Fleming was technically number 3 for much of his career but he spent a bit of time in the middle during the first over back in the day
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@Godder said in Other Cricket:
M Crowe batted at 4 after A Jones for a reasonable number of years.
Jacques Kallis and Brian Lara usually did too. Steve Smith until very recently……Walter Hammond was usually 4 but sometimes 3.
As mentioned before Dravid/Tendulkar would be the best 3/4 in history. I don’t think ST batted first drop once in his entire, very long, career.
I think the best batsman is usually 3 but there are loads of exceptions.
Waugh, Border and Viv Richards spent loads of time at 5/6 when they were defintely their teams best batsmen.
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another comprehensive day for India
Look, i get that right now, India is probably the hardest place to tour in World Cricket, and everyone battles there. And yes, England won a test which was a pretty big deal. But since then they've been flogged.
So why do they find it so hard to shut up? lots of chat about how great they've really been, and no one else would have done better. Positivity is great Ben, but so is reality.
ANd can we finally fuck the term "bazball" off for good? unless it means playing dumb shots at dumb times (sort of like Baz used to do in his younger times really aye?). India have scored more runs at a faster clip while you dumb pricks are trying to hit their spinners out of the attack and instead getting rolled for 140
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The last score I saw last night was 173-3 - saw the score this morning and wondered whether I was looking at the wrong game. Can't believe Bairstow has 100 tests with so moderate a record - he plays the odd big innings when the conditions and the bowling are benign. Stokes isn't a good enough batsman to play as a batsman alone.
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another comprehensive day for India
Look, i get that right now, India is probably the hardest place to tour in World Cricket, and everyone battles there. And yes, England won a test which was a pretty big deal. But since then they've been flogged.
So why do they find it so hard to shut up? lots of chat about how great they've really been, and no one else would have done better. Positivity is great Ben, but so is reality.
ANd can we finally fuck the term "bazball" off for good? unless it means playing dumb shots at dumb times (sort of like Baz used to do in his younger times really aye?). India have scored more runs at a faster clip while you dumb pricks are trying to hit their spinners out of the attack and instead getting rolled for 140
@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
Look, i get that right now, India is probably the hardest place to tour in World Cricket, and everyone battles there. And yes, England won a test which was a pretty big deal. But since then they've been flogged.
disagree.
They were in the tests twice - that's a bloody good effort. Hell, they got in front in the last test ... for a tour they have to be happy with it, just couldn't qutie get the extra few runs to force an outcome.
Flogged is too harsh. India have gone past them, but had to work bloody hard to do that.
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100 run win, 450 run win, 5 wicket win, and now today.
that's flogged.
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The last score I saw last night was 173-3 - saw the score this morning and wondered whether I was looking at the wrong game. Can't believe Bairstow has 100 tests with so moderate a record - he plays the odd big innings when the conditions and the bowling are benign. Stokes isn't a good enough batsman to play as a batsman alone.
@KiwiPie said in Other Cricket:
The last score I saw last night was 173-3 - saw the score this morning and wondered whether I was looking at the wrong game. Can't believe Bairstow has 100 tests with so moderate a record - he plays the odd big innings when the conditions and the bowling are benign. Stokes isn't a good enough batsman to play as a batsman alone.
Yeah not many play as long as Bairstow for that return although he had a period a couple of years back where he was absolutely brilliant.
I will concede Stokes is better than his record indicates and definitely a selfless batsman but he just isn’t an all rounder anymore.
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Dharamsala is such a picturesque ground.
I watched a few minutes last night when Foakes and Bashir were batting. The Indian commentator was saying that the groundsman had tried to provide pitches with less turn after the 1st test. Ironic eh. The Indian spinners are still dangerous on more batting-friendly pitches.
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@KiwiPie said in Other Cricket:
The last score I saw last night was 173-3 - saw the score this morning and wondered whether I was looking at the wrong game. Can't believe Bairstow has 100 tests with so moderate a record - he plays the odd big innings when the conditions and the bowling are benign. Stokes isn't a good enough batsman to play as a batsman alone.
Yeah not many play as long as Bairstow for that return although he had a period a couple of years back where he was absolutely brilliant.
I will concede Stokes is better than his record indicates and definitely a selfless batsman but he just isn’t an all rounder anymore.
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
Yeah not many play as long as Bairstow for that return although he had a period a couple of years back where he was absolutely brilliant.
Didn't Bairstow completely wreck his leg a year or two back? Time to move on - he isn't the same player.
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Is it flogged yet?
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Dropping this here as not sure of which thread.
Fascinating info on the number of player reviews upheld. Taufel was incredible (no surprises). Really interesting how almost all umpires wind up in a band.
Also, this is since the beginning of the DRS era, so snicko and syncing with multiple cameras has changed ... along with hotspot.
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Also been changes with:
- amount of % of ball hitting for an umpires call to be overturned.
- went from 2 unsuccessful reviews per innings to 3, at covid, and not gone back.
@Rapido I'm a big fan of DRS as it's currently applied.
It's not perfect, but it rarely gets a grotesquely wrong answer - basically it's eliminated the howler, which is what the objective is.
Would be interesting to see this track with time... never enough data for the nerds
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Shit series result for England, and one they needed if you ask me.
I think they'll be much more rounded for this result going forwards.
@MajorRage said in Other Cricket:
Shit series result for England, and one they needed if you ask me.
I think they'll be much more
roundedrealistic for this result going forwards.FIFY
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Damn shame.
Was hoping him or Neesh would fill the “Stokes” role in the test side for years.
Instead CDGH stepped up and to be fair surpassed all expectations.
That 36 ball hundie where he made Jesse Ryder look like Geoff Boycott in comparison will live long in the memory.
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Lets see how long he lasts without injury again, but this kid is quick...156.7kph
"Mayank didn't get a single game at LSG over the past two seasons, largely because of injuries. He has now become the first player in IPL history to win two Player-of-the-Match awards in his first two matches."
