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Black Caps v Australia

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  • DamoD Damo

    Good day for NZ.

    Questions really are how long to bat and how much is enough?

    I would approach it by time rather than runs scored; and look to declare midway between lunch and tea on day 4.

    However if we are able to maintain a good run rate tomorrow we could declare an hour or so earlier.

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    @Damo said in Black Caps v Australia:

    Good day for NZ.

    Questions really are how long to bat and how much is enough?

    I would approach it by time rather than runs scored; and look to declare midway between lunch and tea on day 4.

    However if we are able to maintain a good run rate tomorrow we could declare an hour or so earlier.

    This might be the most optimistic post in Fern history

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    • DamoD Damo

      Good day for NZ.

      Questions really are how long to bat and how much is enough?

      I would approach it by time rather than runs scored; and look to declare midway between lunch and tea on day 4.

      However if we are able to maintain a good run rate tomorrow we could declare an hour or so earlier.

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      @Damo said in Black Caps v Australia:

      Good day for NZ.

      Questions really are how long to bat and how much is enough?

      I would approach it by time rather than runs scored; and look to declare midway between lunch and tea on day 4.

      However if we are able to maintain a good run rate tomorrow we could declare an hour or so earlier.

      So 22 wickets down in the first 2 days.

      The plan is then to use the remaining 8 wickets that we have to bat a similar 2-ish day timeframe - actually less than 8 wickets as we plan to declare (more of a smackdown if we do that, kudos) - and give the Aussies a day and a bit to chase us down.

      I like it sir, it’s very cunning and will show these Aussie bastards exactly what we are made of.

      Alternatively, we could fold for 230-odd by lunch tomorrow, leaving them about 140 to chase and we can wrap this thing up inside 3 days

      If I was a betting man…

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        Playing in the V would be a start

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        • nzzpN Online
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          Solid start today.

          if you're watching, is Smith's movment legal? I argue not. I think he moves before the ball gets to Mitchell

          Any movement by any fielder, excluding the wicket-keeper, after the ball comes into play and before the ball reaches the striker, is unfair except for the following: 28.6. 1.1 minor adjustments to stance or position in relation to the striker's wicket.

          https://www.lords.org/mcc/the-laws-of-cricket/the-fielder#:~:text=1 Any movement by any,relation to the striker's wicket.

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          • nzzpN nzzp

            Solid start today.

            if you're watching, is Smith's movment legal? I argue not. I think he moves before the ball gets to Mitchell

            Any movement by any fielder, excluding the wicket-keeper, after the ball comes into play and before the ball reaches the striker, is unfair except for the following: 28.6. 1.1 minor adjustments to stance or position in relation to the striker's wicket.

            https://www.lords.org/mcc/the-laws-of-cricket/the-fielder#:~:text=1 Any movement by any,relation to the striker's wicket.

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            @nzzp said in Black Caps v Australia:

            Solid start today.

            if you're watching, is Smith's movment legal? I argue not. I think he moves before the ball gets to Mitchell

            Any movement by any fielder, excluding the wicket-keeper, after the ball comes into play and before the ball reaches the striker, is unfair except for the following: 28.6. 1.1 minor adjustments to stance or position in relation to the striker's wicket.

            https://www.lords.org/mcc/the-laws-of-cricket/the-fielder#:~:text=1 Any movement by any,relation to the striker's wicket.

            I think it is OK. The exception Smith will rely on is:

            28.6.1.3 movement by any fielder in response to the stroke that the striker is playing or that his/her actions suggest he/she intends to play.

            Mitchell is signalling a reverse sweep. At that point the fielder can move to cover it.

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            • DamoD Damo

              @nzzp said in Black Caps v Australia:

              Solid start today.

              if you're watching, is Smith's movment legal? I argue not. I think he moves before the ball gets to Mitchell

              Any movement by any fielder, excluding the wicket-keeper, after the ball comes into play and before the ball reaches the striker, is unfair except for the following: 28.6. 1.1 minor adjustments to stance or position in relation to the striker's wicket.

              https://www.lords.org/mcc/the-laws-of-cricket/the-fielder#:~:text=1 Any movement by any,relation to the striker's wicket.

              I think it is OK. The exception Smith will rely on is:

              28.6.1.3 movement by any fielder in response to the stroke that the striker is playing or that his/her actions suggest he/she intends to play.

              Mitchell is signalling a reverse sweep. At that point the fielder can move to cover it.

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              @Damo yep I read on just ow and found that.

              As you were.

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              • canefanC Away
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                canefan
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                #848

                Ravindra the pick of our batters for the series. Not perfect, but he's played with confidence. Just has to learn when to leave

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                  Damo
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                  Mitchell is a busy, bustling kind of batsman.

                  This partnership is key. We have batting to come but I want these two to be there when the new ball comes. The pitch looks benign with the old ball but the pace bowlers worry me in any conditions.

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                  • canefanC canefan

                    Ravindra the pick of our batters for the series. Not perfect, but he's played with confidence. Just has to learn when to leave

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                    @canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:

                    Ravindra the pick of our batters for the series. Not perfect, but he's played with confidence. Just has to learn when to leave

                    You’re probably right but the fact you’ve picked a guy who got 0 and 4 speaks volumes about the batting this series.

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                    • MN5M MN5

                      @canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:

                      Ravindra the pick of our batters for the series. Not perfect, but he's played with confidence. Just has to learn when to leave

                      You’re probably right but the fact you’ve picked a guy who got 0 and 4 speaks volumes about the batting this series.

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                      @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                      @canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:

                      Ravindra the pick of our batters for the series. Not perfect, but he's played with confidence. Just has to learn when to leave

                      You’re probably right but the fact you’ve picked a guy who got 0 and 4 speaks volumes about the batting this series.

                      The bar is low for sure. But he's got two 50s as well in a relatively low scoring series

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                      • canefanC canefan

                        @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                        @canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:

                        Ravindra the pick of our batters for the series. Not perfect, but he's played with confidence. Just has to learn when to leave

                        You’re probably right but the fact you’ve picked a guy who got 0 and 4 speaks volumes about the batting this series.

                        The bar is low for sure. But he's got two 50s as well in a relatively low scoring series

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                        @canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:

                        @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                        @canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:

                        Ravindra the pick of our batters for the series. Not perfect, but he's played with confidence. Just has to learn when to leave

                        You’re probably right but the fact you’ve picked a guy who got 0 and 4 speaks volumes about the batting this series.

                        The bar is low for sure. But he's got two 50s as well in a relatively low scoring series

                        I’m not saying anything further after the Kane Williamson fiasco yesterday

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                        • canefanC Away
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                          canefan
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                          The big challenge of the day is yet to come. Let's see how we deal with the Aussies taking the new ball

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                          • MN5M MN5

                            @canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:

                            @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                            @canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:

                            Ravindra the pick of our batters for the series. Not perfect, but he's played with confidence. Just has to learn when to leave

                            You’re probably right but the fact you’ve picked a guy who got 0 and 4 speaks volumes about the batting this series.

                            The bar is low for sure. But he's got two 50s as well in a relatively low scoring series

                            I’m not saying anything further after the Kane Williamson fiasco yesterday

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                            canefan
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                            @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                            @canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:

                            @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                            @canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:

                            Ravindra the pick of our batters for the series. Not perfect, but he's played with confidence. Just has to learn when to leave

                            You’re probably right but the fact you’ve picked a guy who got 0 and 4 speaks volumes about the batting this series.

                            The bar is low for sure. But he's got two 50s as well in a relatively low scoring series

                            I’m not saying anything further after the Kane Williamson fiasco yesterday

                            Learnings

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                              booboo
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                              #855

                              Just checked the score ... what the?

                              Did we learn to bat?

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                              • boobooB booboo

                                Just checked the score ... what the?

                                Did we learn to bat?

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                                nzzp
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                                @booboo said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                Just checked the score ... what the?

                                Did we learn to bat?

                                JINX

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                                  Chris
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                                  Pleasing thing is 4 batsmen have stood up so far Latham and Williamson did a great job batting against the new ball and the fresh Aussie quicks that 125 run partnership put a halt on a possible collapse.
                                  Now backed up by Ravindra and Mitchell.
                                  That us what I want to see some fight with the bat.

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                                  • ChrisC Chris

                                    Pleasing thing is 4 batsmen have stood up so far Latham and Williamson did a great job batting against the new ball and the fresh Aussie quicks that 125 run partnership put a halt on a possible collapse.
                                    Now backed up by Ravindra and Mitchell.
                                    That us what I want to see some fight with the bat.

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                                    #858

                                    @Chris said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                    Pleasing thing is 4 batsmen have stood up so far Latham and Williamson did a great job batting against the new ball and the fresh Aussie quicks that 125 run partnership put a halt on a possible collapse.
                                    Now backed up by Ravindra and Mitchell.
                                    That is what I want to see some fight with the bat.

                                    It’s very promising so far. Another 150 runs and the pressure is fully back on Oz

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                                    • VirgilV Virgil

                                      @Chris said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                      Pleasing thing is 4 batsmen have stood up so far Latham and Williamson did a great job batting against the new ball and the fresh Aussie quicks that 125 run partnership put a halt on a possible collapse.
                                      Now backed up by Ravindra and Mitchell.
                                      That is what I want to see some fight with the bat.

                                      It’s very promising so far. Another 150 runs and the pressure is fully back on Oz

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                                      @Virgil said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                      @Chris said in Black Caps v Australia:

                                      Pleasing thing is 4 batsmen have stood up so far Latham and Williamson did a great job batting against the new ball and the fresh Aussie quicks that 125 run partnership put a halt on a possible collapse.
                                      Now backed up by Ravindra and Mitchell.
                                      That is what I want to see some fight with the bat.

                                      It’s very promising so far. Another 150 runs and the pressure is fully back on Oz

                                      We will have a real game if we can score another 150/180

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                                        Damo
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                                        #860

                                        I don't think Australia will be worried about having to chase 320. Pitch looks docile and it won't break up.

                                        We need another 220+. I know historically it is hard to chase big scores on day 4 and 5, but I can't see it being an issue here.

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                                          Damo
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                                          As I say that, the ball rears out of footmark. Hope to see that continue.

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