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Crusaders 2024

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    https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/crusaders-wont-be-contenders-without-a-top-class-fly-half/

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    • ChrisC Chris

      @george33 said in Crusaders 2024:

      Blackadder any news ?

      Another bit of news Blackadder got through training well this week including live scrummaging .
      Maybe back a week early Rd 4 definitely Rd 5
      Unless he has another injury set back.

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      @Chris saw a report that he is 4-5 weeks away ? Any truth to that

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        @Chris saw a report that he is 4-5 weeks away ? Any truth to that

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        @george33 said in Crusaders 2024:

        @Chris saw a report that he is 4-5 weeks away ? Any truth to that

        Not sure about that he is in full training including scrummaging.
        I would expect sooner than that, unless they are being really conservative due to a lot of calf injuries over the last 18 months,or he has had a set back since I heard on Tuesday.

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          @george33 said in Crusaders 2024:

          @Chris saw a report that he is 4-5 weeks away ? Any truth to that

          Not sure about that he is in full training including scrummaging.
          I would expect sooner than that, unless they are being really conservative due to a lot of calf injuries over the last 18 months,or he has had a set back since I heard on Tuesday.

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          @Chris said in Crusaders 2024:

          unless they are being really conservative due to a lot of calf injuries over the last 18 months

          The Crusaders bye is in three weeks. They might be making use of that extra recovery time?

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            @Chris said in Crusaders 2024:

            unless they are being really conservative due to a lot of calf injuries over the last 18 months

            The Crusaders bye is in three weeks. They might be making use of that extra recovery time?

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            @Duluth said in Crusaders 2024:

            @Chris said in Crusaders 2024:

            unless they are being really conservative due to a lot of calf injuries over the last 18 months

            The Crusaders bye is in three weeks. They might be making use of that extra recovery time?

            Yep that is possible he has had 4 calf injuries in 18 months it has been a chronic injury.
            He is training fully but it could be they want to build him up before he plays again.

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            • DuluthD Duluth

              https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/crusaders-wont-be-contenders-without-a-top-class-fly-half/

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              @Duluth said in Crusaders 2024:

              https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/crusaders-wont-be-contenders-without-a-top-class-fly-half/

              Getting paid to write the blindingly obvious.

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                Some comments in this article about the injuries:

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350215370/super-rugby-pacific-under-pressure-crusaders-coach-rob-penney-confident-tide-will

                In terms of when help might arrive, prop Joe Moody (Covid) should be fit to face the Blues at Eden Park on Saturday, but it’s unlikely other reinforcements will be on hand until after their bye.
                
                That includes first five-eighth Fergus Burke, despite Penney keeping the door slightly ajar for his return from a busted Achilles before their week off in round seven.
                
                “He's a probably a 5% chance before the bye, very minimal but not totally excluded.
                
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                  What about Johnny McNicoll?

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                    #442

                    Franks yellow upgraded to Red.
                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350216638/crusaders-prop-owen-franks-cited-alleged-foul-play-against-hurricanes

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                      Toby Arnold, fucking blast from the past alright.

                      https://twitter.com/crusadersrugby/status/1769966539749380210

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                        Toby Arnold, fucking blast from the past alright.

                        https://twitter.com/crusadersrugby/status/1769966539749380210

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                        @Bones said in Crusaders 2024:

                        Toby Arnold,

                        36 years old! They will soon be able to field a useful Golden oldies team at this rate.

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          Toby Arnold, fucking blast from the past alright.

                          https://twitter.com/crusadersrugby/status/1769966539749380210

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                          African Monkey
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                          @Bones What?!?!

                          I haven't come on here to be a dick or disrespectful or anything, but wtf is up with these signings? Did Toby Arnold even play Super Rugby when he was here about 15 years ago?

                          Man what a bizarre signing even if it is only a short term deal.

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                            @Bones What?!?!

                            I haven't come on here to be a dick or disrespectful or anything, but wtf is up with these signings? Did Toby Arnold even play Super Rugby when he was here about 15 years ago?

                            Man what a bizarre signing even if it is only a short term deal.

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                            @African-Monkey jeez the Crusaders have hit an all time low. If that guy starts they won’t be making the playoffs.

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                              Ok I have not said much when we signed Crotty,Halfpenny,Heinz then Franks
                              Was not impressed
                              Then McNicol now Arnold well I can now confirm Rob Penny,James Marshall especially have completely lost the plot.

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                                Machpants
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                                Yeah back to the future?

                                No idea, it seems very much like a cahsed up Euro club buying aging stars to try an make success.

                                Without the cash

                                Therefore without the stars, unless they are really passe their best before

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                                  Yeah back to the future?

                                  No idea, it seems very much like a cahsed up Euro club buying aging stars to try an make success.

                                  Without the cash

                                  Therefore without the stars, unless they are really passe their best before

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                                  @Machpants said in Crusaders 2024:

                                  Yeah back to the future?

                                  No idea, it seems very much like a cahsed up Euro club buying aging stars to try an make success.

                                  Without the cash

                                  Therefore without the stars, unless they are really passe their best before

                                  Better off investing in youth the u/20s have some good talent in their squad.
                                  Develop for the future if this season is a write off use it as a development year.
                                  Not a fucking Pension for the old aged past it players.

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                                    @Machpants said in Crusaders 2024:

                                    Yeah back to the future?

                                    No idea, it seems very much like a cahsed up Euro club buying aging stars to try an make success.

                                    Without the cash

                                    Therefore without the stars, unless they are really passe their best before

                                    Better off investing in youth the u/20s have some good talent in their squad.
                                    Develop for the future if this season is a write off use it as a development year.
                                    Not a fucking Pension for the old aged past it players.

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                                    Machpants
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                                    @Chris Totally agree

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                                      @Machpants said in Crusaders 2024:

                                      Yeah back to the future?

                                      No idea, it seems very much like a cahsed up Euro club buying aging stars to try an make success.

                                      Without the cash

                                      Therefore without the stars, unless they are really passe their best before

                                      Better off investing in youth the u/20s have some good talent in their squad.
                                      Develop for the future if this season is a write off use it as a development year.
                                      Not a fucking Pension for the old aged past it players.

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                                      African Monkey
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                                      @Chris That would be nice as yes, we all have our teams we love and hate, but for a powerhouse franchise, we need them to be bringing through talent as it benefits our national team going forward, as opposed to their pathways being blocked by a bunch of 70 year Olds.

                                      Surely just playing they younger crop will have a bit of short term pain but end up with long term gain?

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                                        Ok I have not said much when we signed Crotty,Halfpenny,Heinz then Franks
                                        Was not impressed
                                        Then McNicol now Arnold well I can now confirm Rob Penny,James Marshall especially have completely lost the plot.

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                                        @Chris said in Crusaders 2024:

                                        Ok I have not said much when we signed Crotty,Halfpenny,Heinz then Franks
                                        Was not impressed
                                        Then McNicol now Arnold well I can now confirm Rob Penny,James Marshall especially have completely lost the plot.

                                        Can you please inform me why James Marshall and Dan Perrin got appointed Crusaders assistants? They have lead Ta$man to 7th, 8th, 7th since they've been there, they have lost far more games than they've won and the Mako$ have looked abysmally coached under their watch. It just doesn't make any sense to me, they haven't got a coaching record that justifies their roles.

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                                          @Chris said in Crusaders 2024:

                                          Ok I have not said much when we signed Crotty,Halfpenny,Heinz then Franks
                                          Was not impressed
                                          Then McNicol now Arnold well I can now confirm Rob Penny,James Marshall especially have completely lost the plot.

                                          Can you please inform me why James Marshall and Dan Perrin got appointed Crusaders assistants? They have lead Ta$man to 7th, 8th, 7th since they've been there, they have lost far more games than they've won and the Mako$ have looked abysmally coached under their watch. It just doesn't make any sense to me, they haven't got a coaching record that justifies their roles.

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                                          @ruggabee said in Crusaders 2024:

                                          @Chris said in Crusaders 2024:

                                          Ok I have not said much when we signed Crotty,Halfpenny,Heinz then Franks
                                          Was not impressed
                                          Then McNicol now Arnold well I can now confirm Rob Penny,James Marshall especially have completely lost the plot.

                                          Can you please inform me why James Marshall and Dan Perrin got appointed Crusaders as assistants? They have lead Ta$man to 7th, 8th, 7th since they've been there, they have lost far more games than they've won and the Mako$ have looked abysmally coached under their watch. It just doesn't make any sense to me, they haven't got a coaching record that justifies their roles.

                                          I don’t know why to be honest,
                                          I thought they were bad decisions at the time.
                                          Razor Scott Hansen and Tamiti Ellison were the real brains of the operation over the last few years.

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