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Blues v Crusaders

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Rugby Matches
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    george33
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    Just having a break, the Blues pack is massive I've got it at 935kg the boys have all put on 2-3 kg under Vern , his style

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      george33
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      Darry will be at Auckland, next year after Canterbury contract ends , must be following Segner

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      • BovidaeB Bovidae

        Ben O'Keeffe is the ref. Not the news Blues fans will be wanting.

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        @Bovidae said in Blues v Crusaders:

        Ben O'Keeffe is the ref. Not the news Blues fans will be wanting.

        Why the hell not? In top 4-5 refs in the world, so why would the Blues problem??

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          Darry will be at Auckland, next year after Canterbury contract ends , must be following Segner

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          @george33 said in Blues v Crusaders:

          Darry will be at Auckland, next year after Canterbury contract ends , must be following Segner

          Yeah Canterbury have a lot of young locks coming through.
          Gallagher,Cahill,Hannah plus a couple in the u/20s Sa,Jack and Frost.
          He played poorly in last NPC for Canterbury time to move on.

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            george33
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            Darry had had few injuries as Gallagher has had good for NZ rugby these guys coming forward

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              Why is Segner not in the 23?

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              Machpants
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              @chimoaus said in Blues v Crusaders:

              Why is Segner not in the 23?

              All blacks rest 😉

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              • Dan54D Dan54

                @Bovidae said in Blues v Crusaders:

                Ben O'Keeffe is the ref. Not the news Blues fans will be wanting.

                Why the hell not? In top 4-5 refs in the world, so why would the Blues problem??

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                Kirwan
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                @Dan54 said in Blues v Crusaders:

                @Bovidae said in Blues v Crusaders:

                Ben O'Keeffe is the ref. Not the news Blues fans will be wanting.

                Why the hell not? In top 4-5 refs in the world, so why would the Blues problem??

                Refs differently against the Blues, particularly when it's the Cantabs. When the pressure comes on he is wildly inconsistent.

                He earned the nickname Ben O'Thief.

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                  Dan54
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                  Mate I a neutral, so I can assure you I see it differently. He's only called O'Thief by poor losers, as is the case when anyone does it about a ref.

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                  • ChrisC Chris

                    @george33 said in Blues v Crusaders:

                    Darry will be at Auckland, next year after Canterbury contract ends , must be following Segner

                    Yeah Canterbury have a lot of young locks coming through.
                    Gallagher,Cahill,Hannah plus a couple in the u/20s Sa,Jack and Frost.
                    He played poorly in last NPC for Canterbury time to move on.

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                    @Chris said in Blues v Crusaders:

                    @george33 said in Blues v Crusaders:

                    Darry will be at Auckland, next year after Canterbury contract ends , must be following Segner

                    Yeah Canterbury have a lot of young locks coming through.
                    Gallagher,Cahill,Hannah plus a couple in the u/20s Sa,Jack and Frost.
                    He played poorly in last NPC for Canterbury time to move on.

                    Looking at the locks to come out of the Canterbury region the past 5 years (both those schooled there and those imported) and I really think the Crusaders have missed out on the best two (Holland and Darry).

                    I won't comment on those U20s guys, but IMO Gallagher, Cahill and Hannah all end up as journeyman. Darry could join them there, but he looked quite good in pre-season plus the early minutes prior to his injury.

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                      @Chris said in Blues v Crusaders:

                      @george33 said in Blues v Crusaders:

                      Darry will be at Auckland, next year after Canterbury contract ends , must be following Segner

                      Yeah Canterbury have a lot of young locks coming through.
                      Gallagher,Cahill,Hannah plus a couple in the u/20s Sa,Jack and Frost.
                      He played poorly in last NPC for Canterbury time to move on.

                      Looking at the locks to come out of the Canterbury region the past 5 years (both those schooled there and those imported) and I really think the Crusaders have missed out on the best two (Holland and Darry).

                      I won't comment on those U20s guys, but IMO Gallagher, Cahill and Hannah all end up as journeyman. Darry could join them there, but he looked quite good in pre-season plus the early minutes prior to his injury.

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                      @frugby said in Blues v Crusaders:

                      @Chris said in Blues v Crusaders:

                      @george33 said in Blues v Crusaders:

                      Darry will be at Auckland, next year after Canterbury contract ends , must be following Segner

                      Yeah Canterbury have a lot of young locks coming through.
                      Gallagher,Cahill,Hannah plus a couple in the u/20s Sa,Jack and Frost.
                      He played poorly in last NPC for Canterbury time to move on.

                      Looking at the locks to come out of the Canterbury region the past 5 years (both those schooled there and those imported) and I really think the Crusaders have missed out on the best two (Holland and Darry).

                      I won't comment on those U20s guys, but IMO Gallagher, Cahill and Hannah all end up as journeyman. Darry could join them there, but he looked quite good in pre-season plus the early minutes prior to his injury.

                      Time will tell they are young for locks.
                      Hannah looks like a real athlete to me.
                      The u/20 locks are all big units for their age
                      Will at least be one AB out of those 3,

                      Darry was poor for his first 2 years in SR even Blues fans on here were bagging him for being shit.
                      Young locks need time Hannah and Cahill have only had a few minutes off the bench so far in their careers.
                      A bit early based on a few minutes to brand them journeymen just yet.

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                        African Monkey
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                        Darry took a while to fill out but started to turn a corner of late but seems a bit injury prone currently. Don't know how far he'll go but he's slowly starting to realize his potential. Key for him is to stay on the field.

                        Hannah looks a real prospect to me, a rare bright spot for the Crusaders so far. Still has a bit of bulk to put on which will happen over time.

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                        • ChrisC Chris

                          @frugby said in Blues v Crusaders:

                          @Chris said in Blues v Crusaders:

                          @george33 said in Blues v Crusaders:

                          Darry will be at Auckland, next year after Canterbury contract ends , must be following Segner

                          Yeah Canterbury have a lot of young locks coming through.
                          Gallagher,Cahill,Hannah plus a couple in the u/20s Sa,Jack and Frost.
                          He played poorly in last NPC for Canterbury time to move on.

                          Looking at the locks to come out of the Canterbury region the past 5 years (both those schooled there and those imported) and I really think the Crusaders have missed out on the best two (Holland and Darry).

                          I won't comment on those U20s guys, but IMO Gallagher, Cahill and Hannah all end up as journeyman. Darry could join them there, but he looked quite good in pre-season plus the early minutes prior to his injury.

                          Time will tell they are young for locks.
                          Hannah looks like a real athlete to me.
                          The u/20 locks are all big units for their age
                          Will at least be one AB out of those 3,

                          Darry was poor for his first 2 years in SR even Blues fans on here were bagging him for being shit.
                          Young locks need time Hannah and Cahill have only had a few minutes off the bench so far in their careers.
                          A bit early based on a few minutes to brand them journeymen just yet.

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                          taniwharugby
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                          @Chris wasn't Hannah who Barrett said was a player to watch this year?

                          From the games I've watched, the saders aren't massively far away, lacking polish and a 9/10, utilise Drummond/ Hotham more and when Burke is back (plus several other injured players) i reckon they'll look sharper.

                          But right now, will be a huge ask this weekend.

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                            @Dan54 said in Blues v Crusaders:

                            @Bovidae said in Blues v Crusaders:

                            Ben O'Keeffe is the ref. Not the news Blues fans will be wanting.

                            Why the hell not? In top 4-5 refs in the world, so why would the Blues problem??

                            Refs differently against the Blues, particularly when it's the Cantabs. When the pressure comes on he is wildly inconsistent.

                            He earned the nickname Ben O'Thief.

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                            @Kirwan said in Blues v Crusaders:

                            Refs differently against the Blues, particularly when it's the Cantabs. When the pressure comes on he is wildly inconsistent.

                            Everyone reffed the Saders differently the previous 5 or so years. It's only Dolman so far this year who didn't get the memo to cease and desist.

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                              @Kirwan said in Blues v Crusaders:

                              Refs differently against the Blues, particularly when it's the Cantabs. When the pressure comes on he is wildly inconsistent.

                              Everyone reffed the Saders differently the previous 5 or so years. It's only Dolman so far this year who didn't get the memo to cease and desist.

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                              ruggabee
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                              @Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:

                              @Kirwan said in Blues v Crusaders:

                              Refs differently against the Blues, particularly when it's the Cantabs. When the pressure comes on he is wildly inconsistent.

                              Everyone reffed the Saders differently the previous 5 or so years. It's only Dolman so far this year who didn't get the memo to cease and desist.

                              the last five years eh? ah well, at least Razor gets a claim to his titles from 2017 and 2018, as they are the only legit ones!

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                                @Chris wasn't Hannah who Barrett said was a player to watch this year?

                                From the games I've watched, the saders aren't massively far away, lacking polish and a 9/10, utilise Drummond/ Hotham more and when Burke is back (plus several other injured players) i reckon they'll look sharper.

                                But right now, will be a huge ask this weekend.

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                                @taniwharugby said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                @Chris wasn't Hannah who Barrett said was a player to watch this year?

                                From the games I've watched, the saders aren't massively far away, lacking polish and a 9/10, utilise Drummond/ Hotham more and when Burke is back (plus several other injured players) i reckon they'll look sharper.

                                But right now, will be a huge ask this weekend.

                                Yeah Barret did mention Hannah.

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                                  @Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                  @Kirwan said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                  Refs differently against the Blues, particularly when it's the Cantabs. When the pressure comes on he is wildly inconsistent.

                                  Everyone reffed the Saders differently the previous 5 or so years. It's only Dolman so far this year who didn't get the memo to cease and desist.

                                  the last five years eh? ah well, at least Razor gets a claim to his titles from 2017 and 2018, as they are the only legit ones!

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                                  @ruggabee said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                  @Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                  @Kirwan said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                  Refs differently against the Blues, particularly when it's the Cantabs. When the pressure comes on he is wildly inconsistent.

                                  Everyone reffed the Saders differently the previous 5 or so years. It's only Dolman so far this year who didn't get the memo to cease and desist.

                                  the last five years eh? ah well, at least Razor gets a claim to his titles from 2017 and 2018, as they are the only legit ones!

                                  They belong to Sam Whitelock

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                                    @ruggabee said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                    @Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                    @Kirwan said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                    Refs differently against the Blues, particularly when it's the Cantabs. When the pressure comes on he is wildly inconsistent.

                                    Everyone reffed the Saders differently the previous 5 or so years. It's only Dolman so far this year who didn't get the memo to cease and desist.

                                    the last five years eh? ah well, at least Razor gets a claim to his titles from 2017 and 2018, as they are the only legit ones!

                                    They belong to Sam Whitelock

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                                    ruggabee
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                                    @Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                    @ruggabee said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                    @Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                    @Kirwan said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                    Refs differently against the Blues, particularly when it's the Cantabs. When the pressure comes on he is wildly inconsistent.

                                    Everyone reffed the Saders differently the previous 5 or so years. It's only Dolman so far this year who didn't get the memo to cease and desist.

                                    the last five years eh? ah well, at least Razor gets a claim to his titles from 2017 and 2018, as they are the only legit ones!

                                    They belong to Sam Whitelock

                                    just like the 7 titles he won between 2010-2016? along with others in their athletic peak years such as McCaw, Carter, Read, Frank's Bros, Todd, Moody, Whitelock's, Romano, Bird, Crotty, SBW, Guilford, Fruean, Maitland, Crockett, Ellis, Taufua, Flynn, Laulala, Nadolo, Dagg, etc.. those titles?

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                                      @Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                      @ruggabee said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                      @Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                      @Kirwan said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                      Refs differently against the Blues, particularly when it's the Cantabs. When the pressure comes on he is wildly inconsistent.

                                      Everyone reffed the Saders differently the previous 5 or so years. It's only Dolman so far this year who didn't get the memo to cease and desist.

                                      the last five years eh? ah well, at least Razor gets a claim to his titles from 2017 and 2018, as they are the only legit ones!

                                      They belong to Sam Whitelock

                                      just like the 7 titles he won between 2010-2016? along with others in their athletic peak years such as McCaw, Carter, Read, Frank's Bros, Todd, Moody, Whitelock's, Romano, Bird, Crotty, SBW, Guilford, Fruean, Maitland, Crockett, Ellis, Taufua, Flynn, Laulala, Nadolo, Dagg, etc.. those titles?

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                                      Bones
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                                      @ruggabee Athletic park closed over two decades ago mate. It's apt it's a retirement village now.

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                                        Interesting stat from Stuff

                                        Just one Crusader - Tom Christie - who started last year’s final against the Chiefs will start at Eden Park.
                                        
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                                        • ChrisC Chris

                                          @frugby said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                          @Chris said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                          @george33 said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                          Darry will be at Auckland, next year after Canterbury contract ends , must be following Segner

                                          Yeah Canterbury have a lot of young locks coming through.
                                          Gallagher,Cahill,Hannah plus a couple in the u/20s Sa,Jack and Frost.
                                          He played poorly in last NPC for Canterbury time to move on.

                                          Looking at the locks to come out of the Canterbury region the past 5 years (both those schooled there and those imported) and I really think the Crusaders have missed out on the best two (Holland and Darry).

                                          I won't comment on those U20s guys, but IMO Gallagher, Cahill and Hannah all end up as journeyman. Darry could join them there, but he looked quite good in pre-season plus the early minutes prior to his injury.

                                          Time will tell they are young for locks.
                                          Hannah looks like a real athlete to me.
                                          The u/20 locks are all big units for their age
                                          Will at least be one AB out of those 3,

                                          Darry was poor for his first 2 years in SR even Blues fans on here were bagging him for being shit.
                                          Young locks need time Hannah and Cahill have only had a few minutes off the bench so far in their careers.
                                          A bit early based on a few minutes to brand them journeymen just yet.

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                                          frugby
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                                          @Chris said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                          @frugby said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                          @Chris said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                          @george33 said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                          Darry will be at Auckland, next year after Canterbury contract ends , must be following Segner

                                          Yeah Canterbury have a lot of young locks coming through.
                                          Gallagher,Cahill,Hannah plus a couple in the u/20s Sa,Jack and Frost.
                                          He played poorly in last NPC for Canterbury time to move on.

                                          Looking at the locks to come out of the Canterbury region the past 5 years (both those schooled there and those imported) and I really think the Crusaders have missed out on the best two (Holland and Darry).

                                          I won't comment on those U20s guys, but IMO Gallagher, Cahill and Hannah all end up as journeyman. Darry could join them there, but he looked quite good in pre-season plus the early minutes prior to his injury.

                                          Time will tell they are young for locks.
                                          Hannah looks like a real athlete to me.
                                          The u/20 locks are all big units for their age
                                          Will at least be one AB out of those 3,

                                          Darry was poor for his first 2 years in SR even Blues fans on here were bagging him for being shit.
                                          Young locks need time Hannah and Cahill have only had a few minutes off the bench so far in their careers.
                                          A bit early based on a few minutes to brand them journeymen just yet.

                                          As I say, won't comment on the U20 locks but from what I have seen (namely for the U20s and in the NPC), Cahill just lacks a little bit across the board to go to the next level - not to say he won't be a tidy Super Rugby lock.

                                          Gallagher will probably be very good for the Crusaders, but IMO he lacks the size to play test footy

                                          Hannah could well surprise me - I admit, I have not seen much of him since he put all the size on.

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