Blues v Crusaders

george33

Darry had had few injuries as Gallagher has had good for NZ rugby these guys coming forward

Machpants

Why is Segner not in the 23?

All blacks rest

Kirwan

@Bovidae said in Blues v Crusaders:

Ben O'Keeffe is the ref. Not the news Blues fans will be wanting.

Why the hell not? In top 4-5 refs in the world, so why would the Blues problem??

Refs differently against the Blues, particularly when it's the Cantabs. When the pressure comes on he is wildly inconsistent.

He earned the nickname Ben O'Thief.

Dan54

Mate I a neutral, so I can assure you I see it differently. He's only called O'Thief by poor losers, as is the case when anyone does it about a ref.

frugby

@Chris said in Blues v Crusaders:

@george33 said in Blues v Crusaders:

Darry will be at Auckland, next year after Canterbury contract ends , must be following Segner

Yeah Canterbury have a lot of young locks coming through.
Gallagher,Cahill,Hannah plus a couple in the u/20s Sa,Jack and Frost.
He played poorly in last NPC for Canterbury time to move on.

Looking at the locks to come out of the Canterbury region the past 5 years (both those schooled there and those imported) and I really think the Crusaders have missed out on the best two (Holland and Darry).

I won't comment on those U20s guys, but IMO Gallagher, Cahill and Hannah all end up as journeyman. Darry could join them there, but he looked quite good in pre-season plus the early minutes prior to his injury.

Chris

@frugby said in Blues v Crusaders:

@Chris said in Blues v Crusaders:

@george33 said in Blues v Crusaders:

Darry will be at Auckland, next year after Canterbury contract ends , must be following Segner

Yeah Canterbury have a lot of young locks coming through.
Gallagher,Cahill,Hannah plus a couple in the u/20s Sa,Jack and Frost.
He played poorly in last NPC for Canterbury time to move on.

Looking at the locks to come out of the Canterbury region the past 5 years (both those schooled there and those imported) and I really think the Crusaders have missed out on the best two (Holland and Darry).

I won't comment on those U20s guys, but IMO Gallagher, Cahill and Hannah all end up as journeyman. Darry could join them there, but he looked quite good in pre-season plus the early minutes prior to his injury.

Time will tell they are young for locks.
Hannah looks like a real athlete to me.
The u/20 locks are all big units for their age
Will at least be one AB out of those 3,

Darry was poor for his first 2 years in SR even Blues fans on here were bagging him for being shit.
Young locks need time Hannah and Cahill have only had a few minutes off the bench so far in their careers.
A bit early based on a few minutes to brand them journeymen just yet.

African Monkey

Darry took a while to fill out but started to turn a corner of late but seems a bit injury prone currently. Don't know how far he'll go but he's slowly starting to realize his potential. Key for him is to stay on the field.

Hannah looks a real prospect to me, a rare bright spot for the Crusaders so far. Still has a bit of bulk to put on which will happen over time.

taniwharugby

@Chris wasn't Hannah who Barrett said was a player to watch this year?

From the games I've watched, the saders aren't massively far away, lacking polish and a 9/10, utilise Drummond/ Hotham more and when Burke is back (plus several other injured players) i reckon they'll look sharper.

But right now, will be a huge ask this weekend.

Bones

@Kirwan said in Blues v Crusaders:

Refs differently against the Blues, particularly when it's the Cantabs. When the pressure comes on he is wildly inconsistent.

Everyone reffed the Saders differently the previous 5 or so years. It's only Dolman so far this year who didn't get the memo to cease and desist.

ruggabee

@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:

@Kirwan said in Blues v Crusaders:

Refs differently against the Blues, particularly when it's the Cantabs. When the pressure comes on he is wildly inconsistent.

Everyone reffed the Saders differently the previous 5 or so years. It's only Dolman so far this year who didn't get the memo to cease and desist.

the last five years eh? ah well, at least Razor gets a claim to his titles from 2017 and 2018, as they are the only legit ones!

Chris

@taniwharugby said in Blues v Crusaders:

@Chris wasn't Hannah who Barrett said was a player to watch this year?

From the games I've watched, the saders aren't massively far away, lacking polish and a 9/10, utilise Drummond/ Hotham more and when Burke is back (plus several other injured players) i reckon they'll look sharper.

But right now, will be a huge ask this weekend.

Yeah Barret did mention Hannah.

Bones

@ruggabee said in Blues v Crusaders:

@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:

@Kirwan said in Blues v Crusaders:

Refs differently against the Blues, particularly when it's the Cantabs. When the pressure comes on he is wildly inconsistent.

Everyone reffed the Saders differently the previous 5 or so years. It's only Dolman so far this year who didn't get the memo to cease and desist.

the last five years eh? ah well, at least Razor gets a claim to his titles from 2017 and 2018, as they are the only legit ones!

They belong to Sam Whitelock

ruggabee

@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:

@ruggabee said in Blues v Crusaders:

@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:

@Kirwan said in Blues v Crusaders:

Refs differently against the Blues, particularly when it's the Cantabs. When the pressure comes on he is wildly inconsistent.

Everyone reffed the Saders differently the previous 5 or so years. It's only Dolman so far this year who didn't get the memo to cease and desist.

the last five years eh? ah well, at least Razor gets a claim to his titles from 2017 and 2018, as they are the only legit ones!

They belong to Sam Whitelock

just like the 7 titles he won between 2010-2016? along with others in their athletic peak years such as McCaw, Carter, Read, Frank's Bros, Todd, Moody, Whitelock's, Romano, Bird, Crotty, SBW, Guilford, Fruean, Maitland, Crockett, Ellis, Taufua, Flynn, Laulala, Nadolo, Dagg, etc.. those titles?

Bones

@ruggabee Athletic park closed over two decades ago mate. It's apt it's a retirement village now.

KiwiMurph

Interesting stat from Stuff

Just one Crusader - Tom Christie - who started last year’s final against the Chiefs will start at Eden Park.

frugby

@Chris said in Blues v Crusaders:

@frugby said in Blues v Crusaders:

@Chris said in Blues v Crusaders:

@george33 said in Blues v Crusaders:

Darry will be at Auckland, next year after Canterbury contract ends , must be following Segner

Yeah Canterbury have a lot of young locks coming through.
Gallagher,Cahill,Hannah plus a couple in the u/20s Sa,Jack and Frost.
He played poorly in last NPC for Canterbury time to move on.

Looking at the locks to come out of the Canterbury region the past 5 years (both those schooled there and those imported) and I really think the Crusaders have missed out on the best two (Holland and Darry).

I won't comment on those U20s guys, but IMO Gallagher, Cahill and Hannah all end up as journeyman. Darry could join them there, but he looked quite good in pre-season plus the early minutes prior to his injury.

Time will tell they are young for locks.
Hannah looks like a real athlete to me.
The u/20 locks are all big units for their age
Will at least be one AB out of those 3,

Darry was poor for his first 2 years in SR even Blues fans on here were bagging him for being shit.
Young locks need time Hannah and Cahill have only had a few minutes off the bench so far in their careers.
A bit early based on a few minutes to brand them journeymen just yet.

As I say, won't comment on the U20 locks but from what I have seen (namely for the U20s and in the NPC), Cahill just lacks a little bit across the board to go to the next level - not to say he won't be a tidy Super Rugby lock.

Gallagher will probably be very good for the Crusaders, but IMO he lacks the size to play test footy

Hannah could well surprise me - I admit, I have not seen much of him since he put all the size on.

KiwiMurph

Looks like it could be a wet weather game

george33

@KiwiMurph looks ok at kick off but this is Auckland will suit our big pack

george33

This Blues Pack is quite some size ,they are well over 900kg put together, not sure on Crusaders

cgrant

@frugby said in Blues v Crusaders:

@Chris said in Blues v Crusaders:

@frugby said in Blues v Crusaders:

@Chris said in Blues v Crusaders:

@george33 said in Blues v Crusaders:

Darry will be at Auckland, next year after Canterbury contract ends , must be following Segner

Yeah Canterbury have a lot of young locks coming through.
Gallagher,Cahill,Hannah plus a couple in the u/20s Sa,Jack and Frost.
He played poorly in last NPC for Canterbury time to move on.

Looking at the locks to come out of the Canterbury region the past 5 years (both those schooled there and those imported) and I really think the Crusaders have missed out on the best two (Holland and Darry).

I won't comment on those U20s guys, but IMO Gallagher, Cahill and Hannah all end up as journeyman. Darry could join them there, but he looked quite good in pre-season plus the early minutes prior to his injury.

Time will tell they are young for locks.
Hannah looks like a real athlete to me.
The u/20 locks are all big units for their age
Will at least be one AB out of those 3,

Darry was poor for his first 2 years in SR even Blues fans on here were bagging him for being shit.
Young locks need time Hannah and Cahill have only had a few minutes off the bench so far in their careers.
A bit early based on a few minutes to brand them journeymen just yet.

As I say, won't comment on the U20 locks but from what I have seen (namely for the U20s and in the NPC), Cahill just lacks a little bit across the board to go to the next level - not to say he won't be a tidy Super Rugby lock.

Gallagher will probably be very good for the Crusaders, but IMO he lacks the size to play test footy

Hannah could well surprise me - I admit, I have not seen much of him since he put all the size on.

Gallagher is not very tall but he is beefy.

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