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Blues v Crusaders

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  • DuluthD Duluth

    @booboo said in Blues v Crusaders:

    Who is this Forbes character? Goes ok

    BOP fullback, has been in Scotland for a few years and just came home last year

    He runs great lines. Not sure on his kicking from hand also he struggled on defence in an earlier game. Plenty of potential, I think he’s an upgrade on JRK

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    Bones
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    @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

    upgrade on JRK

    On evidence so far this year, I'm not sold on that one.

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      Tuipulotu excellent. What a game from him. McWhannell also played very well.

      Ricciitelli threw well (as did Vikena).

      Cotter really has the Blues playing like a top 14 French team haha.

      Grace might have to be the most disappointing Crusader. Just hasn't lifted and taked on a senior role.

      Hotham and Hannah went well for Crusaders I thought.

      Hard to get a read on many Crusaders cos they never got into their game and haven't all season.

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        Billy Tell
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        What’s missing in this modern age is good old fashioned honesty. Ricatelli and Aumua hang your heads in shame. Just admit you dropped the ball and spare us needless TMO intervention.

        Crusaders are hopeless this year. When your recruits are crusaders players from 5 to 10 years ago you’re in trouble. Newell and Hannah the best of the forwards. No stand outs in the backs, that 10 is a world class journeyman.

        I will never rate PT as he is hopeless in the line out at international level but he was good around the field. Solid win for the blues.

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        • Billy TellB Billy Tell

          What’s missing in this modern age is good old fashioned honesty. Ricatelli and Aumua hang your heads in shame. Just admit you dropped the ball and spare us needless TMO intervention.

          Crusaders are hopeless this year. When your recruits are crusaders players from 5 to 10 years ago you’re in trouble. Newell and Hannah the best of the forwards. No stand outs in the backs, that 10 is a world class journeyman.

          I will never rate PT as he is hopeless in the line out at international level but he was good around the field. Solid win for the blues.

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          @Billy-Tell said in Blues v Crusaders:

          he is hopeless in the line out at international level

          And yet one of the notable things about whenever he came off the bench was he seemed to steal the first lineout.

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            Duluth
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            #258

            Rucks less than 3 seconds:

            Blues: 56 (46%)
            Crus: 11 (22%)

            Ruck arrival stats
            Screenshot 2024-03-24 at 11.50.00 AM.png

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            • DuluthD Duluth

              A few Crusaders with some poor tackle stats

              Grace missed 8, Hannah missed 7

              Contrary to what TJ and Marshall said the misses were spread out across the game. Crusaders missed 44 tackles, but they actually missed 23 in the first half

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              Nevorian
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              @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

              A few Crusaders with some poor tackle stats

              Grace missed 8, Hannah missed 7

              Contrary to what TJ and Marshall said the misses were spread out across the game. Crusaders missed 44 tackles, but they actually missed 23 in the first half

              23/44 is about 50% so yes probably spread out across the game but what difference it makes not sure it is an absurdly high miss rate

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                @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

                A few Crusaders with some poor tackle stats

                Grace missed 8, Hannah missed 7

                Contrary to what TJ and Marshall said the misses were spread out across the game. Crusaders missed 44 tackles, but they actually missed 23 in the first half

                23/44 is about 50% so yes probably spread out across the game but what difference it makes not sure it is an absurdly high miss rate

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                Duluth
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                #260

                @Nevorian said in Blues v Crusaders:

                @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

                A few Crusaders with some poor tackle stats

                Grace missed 8, Hannah missed 7

                Contrary to what TJ and Marshall said the misses were spread out across the game. Crusaders missed 44 tackles, but they actually missed 23 in the first half

                23/44 is about 50% so yes probably spread out across the game but what difference it makes not sure it is an absurdly high miss rate

                77% for the game is low

                Crusaders have missed more tackles than any other team in SR. Grace has missed the most tackles of any player in the competition

                It's definitely a problem

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                  Finally able to watch the game and a few things really stick out for me. In no particular order:

                  1. Reece is, by orders of magnitude, the best player in the Crusaders.
                  2. Perofeta's decision making is shit. He costs points. Not a good trait for someone playing at 10.
                  3. Christie is an abysmal halfback. Shit pass, takes far too long to make a decision at rucks. Two phases in a row he waddled along while other players actually made an effort to do his job for him, quickly clearing the ball and passing. How he keeps getting minutes is a mystery.
                  4. The difference in this match was summed up by Clarke's brilliant defensive effort on Aumua.
                  5. How many games will Penney lose before he's sacked?
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                    Old Samurai Jack
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                    The Crusaders are a mess and some players are just not up to this level and the others are floundering about headless. Lineout was an absolute disgrace. Even the commentators were dumbfounded by their decision to keep doing the same lineout formation failure after failure. The coaching box is not up to it, pure and simple.
                    Sad to see Moody's form. Reece and Newell were pretty good.
                    Blues on the other hand, doing the basics well esp. in the forward pack. Basically, did a Crusaders on the Crusaders, attacked the set piece, great maul defense, and bollocked them at the breakdown.

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                    • TimT Tim

                      McWhannell is very good in the air.

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                      @Tim said in Blues v Crusaders:

                      McWhannell is very good in the air.

                      Yes, one of his main strengths is picking off opposition throws.

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                        #264

                        Just watching the second half

                        Man the crusaders were lucky not to get more grief from the ref. They weren't even trying to be onside

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                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          @Nevorian said in Blues v Crusaders:

                          @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

                          A few Crusaders with some poor tackle stats

                          Grace missed 8, Hannah missed 7

                          Contrary to what TJ and Marshall said the misses were spread out across the game. Crusaders missed 44 tackles, but they actually missed 23 in the first half

                          23/44 is about 50% so yes probably spread out across the game but what difference it makes not sure it is an absurdly high miss rate

                          77% for the game is low

                          Crusaders have missed more tackles than any other team in SR. Grace has missed the most tackles of any player in the competition

                          It's definitely a problem

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                          @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

                          Grace has missed the most tackles of any player in the competition

                          His defence was poor in the NPC too. Not up to this level.

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                          • DuluthD Duluth

                            @Nevorian said in Blues v Crusaders:

                            @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

                            A few Crusaders with some poor tackle stats

                            Grace missed 8, Hannah missed 7

                            Contrary to what TJ and Marshall said the misses were spread out across the game. Crusaders missed 44 tackles, but they actually missed 23 in the first half

                            23/44 is about 50% so yes probably spread out across the game but what difference it makes not sure it is an absurdly high miss rate

                            77% for the game is low

                            Crusaders have missed more tackles than any other team in SR. Grace has missed the most tackles of any player in the competition

                            It's definitely a problem

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                            Bones
                            wrote on last edited by Bones
                            #266

                            @Duluth was it an issue under Penney at the tahs too?

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @Duluth was it an issue under Penney at the tahs too?

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                              Duluth
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                              #267

                              @Bones

                              Cant really remember. Maybe?

                              Skimming through the 5 games in 2021 the Tahs got thrashed by the Brumbies (10-61) & Reds twice (7-41, 14-46) beaten comfortable by the Rebels (14-33) and lost narrowly to the Force (16-20)

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                              • nzzpN nzzp

                                Just watching the second half

                                Man the crusaders were lucky not to get more grief from the ref. They weren't even trying to be onside

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                                Kirwan
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                                #268

                                @nzzp said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                Just watching the second half

                                Man the crusaders were lucky not to get more grief from the ref. They weren't even trying to be onside

                                BOK always gives the Crusaders an easy go.

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                                  Duluth
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                                  #269

                                  Another angle of the AJ Lam try. Look at that shitty attempted tackle

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                                  • DuluthD Duluth

                                    Another angle of the AJ Lam try. Look at that shitty attempted tackle

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                                    antipodean
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                                    @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                    Look at that shitty attempted tackle

                                    You're going to have to narrow that down.

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                                      number9
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                                      Not impressed with my Blues, we should of killed thr Crusaders with all the possession we had. Ref was handing out more cards than a black jack dealer which were justified. Don't think we executed that well

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                                        Dan54
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                                        Meant to comment yesterday, loved the heritage jerseys, and first time I saw Caleb Clarke make a run I thought of his old man, not so much as looking like him, but similar build, and similar gait when he runs, also McWhannel reminded me of Andrew Blowers with the mo and headgear.

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                                        • number9N number9

                                          Not impressed with my Blues, we should of killed thr Crusaders with all the possession we had. Ref was handing out more cards than a black jack dealer which were justified. Don't think we executed that well

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                                          Duluth
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                                          #273

                                          @number9 said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                          Not impressed with my Blues, we should of killed thr Crusaders with all the possession we had.

                                          I agree. Loads of errors and the passing in the backs has been off. Seems like the players and coach acknowledge that too.

                                          We’re picking up wins and have plenty of home games coming up. You don’t win the competition in the first five weeks (Canes fans..)

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