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Blues v Crusaders

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  • Billy TellB Billy Tell

    What’s missing in this modern age is good old fashioned honesty. Ricatelli and Aumua hang your heads in shame. Just admit you dropped the ball and spare us needless TMO intervention.

    Crusaders are hopeless this year. When your recruits are crusaders players from 5 to 10 years ago you’re in trouble. Newell and Hannah the best of the forwards. No stand outs in the backs, that 10 is a world class journeyman.

    I will never rate PT as he is hopeless in the line out at international level but he was good around the field. Solid win for the blues.

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    @Billy-Tell said in Blues v Crusaders:

    he is hopeless in the line out at international level

    And yet one of the notable things about whenever he came off the bench was he seemed to steal the first lineout.

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      Rucks less than 3 seconds:

      Blues: 56 (46%)
      Crus: 11 (22%)

      Ruck arrival stats
      Screenshot 2024-03-24 at 11.50.00 AM.png

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      • DuluthD Duluth

        A few Crusaders with some poor tackle stats

        Grace missed 8, Hannah missed 7

        Contrary to what TJ and Marshall said the misses were spread out across the game. Crusaders missed 44 tackles, but they actually missed 23 in the first half

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        @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

        A few Crusaders with some poor tackle stats

        Grace missed 8, Hannah missed 7

        Contrary to what TJ and Marshall said the misses were spread out across the game. Crusaders missed 44 tackles, but they actually missed 23 in the first half

        23/44 is about 50% so yes probably spread out across the game but what difference it makes not sure it is an absurdly high miss rate

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          @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

          A few Crusaders with some poor tackle stats

          Grace missed 8, Hannah missed 7

          Contrary to what TJ and Marshall said the misses were spread out across the game. Crusaders missed 44 tackles, but they actually missed 23 in the first half

          23/44 is about 50% so yes probably spread out across the game but what difference it makes not sure it is an absurdly high miss rate

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          @Nevorian said in Blues v Crusaders:

          @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

          A few Crusaders with some poor tackle stats

          Grace missed 8, Hannah missed 7

          Contrary to what TJ and Marshall said the misses were spread out across the game. Crusaders missed 44 tackles, but they actually missed 23 in the first half

          23/44 is about 50% so yes probably spread out across the game but what difference it makes not sure it is an absurdly high miss rate

          77% for the game is low

          Crusaders have missed more tackles than any other team in SR. Grace has missed the most tackles of any player in the competition

          It's definitely a problem

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            Finally able to watch the game and a few things really stick out for me. In no particular order:

            1. Reece is, by orders of magnitude, the best player in the Crusaders.
            2. Perofeta's decision making is shit. He costs points. Not a good trait for someone playing at 10.
            3. Christie is an abysmal halfback. Shit pass, takes far too long to make a decision at rucks. Two phases in a row he waddled along while other players actually made an effort to do his job for him, quickly clearing the ball and passing. How he keeps getting minutes is a mystery.
            4. The difference in this match was summed up by Clarke's brilliant defensive effort on Aumua.
            5. How many games will Penney lose before he's sacked?
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              The Crusaders are a mess and some players are just not up to this level and the others are floundering about headless. Lineout was an absolute disgrace. Even the commentators were dumbfounded by their decision to keep doing the same lineout formation failure after failure. The coaching box is not up to it, pure and simple.
              Sad to see Moody's form. Reece and Newell were pretty good.
              Blues on the other hand, doing the basics well esp. in the forward pack. Basically, did a Crusaders on the Crusaders, attacked the set piece, great maul defense, and bollocked them at the breakdown.

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              • TimT Tim

                McWhannell is very good in the air.

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                @Tim said in Blues v Crusaders:

                McWhannell is very good in the air.

                Yes, one of his main strengths is picking off opposition throws.

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                  Just watching the second half

                  Man the crusaders were lucky not to get more grief from the ref. They weren't even trying to be onside

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                  • DuluthD Duluth

                    @Nevorian said in Blues v Crusaders:

                    @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

                    A few Crusaders with some poor tackle stats

                    Grace missed 8, Hannah missed 7

                    Contrary to what TJ and Marshall said the misses were spread out across the game. Crusaders missed 44 tackles, but they actually missed 23 in the first half

                    23/44 is about 50% so yes probably spread out across the game but what difference it makes not sure it is an absurdly high miss rate

                    77% for the game is low

                    Crusaders have missed more tackles than any other team in SR. Grace has missed the most tackles of any player in the competition

                    It's definitely a problem

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                    @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

                    Grace has missed the most tackles of any player in the competition

                    His defence was poor in the NPC too. Not up to this level.

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      @Nevorian said in Blues v Crusaders:

                      @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

                      A few Crusaders with some poor tackle stats

                      Grace missed 8, Hannah missed 7

                      Contrary to what TJ and Marshall said the misses were spread out across the game. Crusaders missed 44 tackles, but they actually missed 23 in the first half

                      23/44 is about 50% so yes probably spread out across the game but what difference it makes not sure it is an absurdly high miss rate

                      77% for the game is low

                      Crusaders have missed more tackles than any other team in SR. Grace has missed the most tackles of any player in the competition

                      It's definitely a problem

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                      Bones
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                      #266

                      @Duluth was it an issue under Penney at the tahs too?

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @Duluth was it an issue under Penney at the tahs too?

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                        @Bones

                        Cant really remember. Maybe?

                        Skimming through the 5 games in 2021 the Tahs got thrashed by the Brumbies (10-61) & Reds twice (7-41, 14-46) beaten comfortable by the Rebels (14-33) and lost narrowly to the Force (16-20)

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                        • nzzpN nzzp

                          Just watching the second half

                          Man the crusaders were lucky not to get more grief from the ref. They weren't even trying to be onside

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                          @nzzp said in Blues v Crusaders:

                          Just watching the second half

                          Man the crusaders were lucky not to get more grief from the ref. They weren't even trying to be onside

                          BOK always gives the Crusaders an easy go.

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                            Another angle of the AJ Lam try. Look at that shitty attempted tackle

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                            • DuluthD Duluth

                              Another angle of the AJ Lam try. Look at that shitty attempted tackle

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                              antipodean
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                              @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

                              Look at that shitty attempted tackle

                              You're going to have to narrow that down.

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                                Not impressed with my Blues, we should of killed thr Crusaders with all the possession we had. Ref was handing out more cards than a black jack dealer which were justified. Don't think we executed that well

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                                  Meant to comment yesterday, loved the heritage jerseys, and first time I saw Caleb Clarke make a run I thought of his old man, not so much as looking like him, but similar build, and similar gait when he runs, also McWhannel reminded me of Andrew Blowers with the mo and headgear.

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                                  • number9N number9

                                    Not impressed with my Blues, we should of killed thr Crusaders with all the possession we had. Ref was handing out more cards than a black jack dealer which were justified. Don't think we executed that well

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                                    @number9 said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                    Not impressed with my Blues, we should of killed thr Crusaders with all the possession we had.

                                    I agree. Loads of errors and the passing in the backs has been off. Seems like the players and coach acknowledge that too.

                                    We’re picking up wins and have plenty of home games coming up. You don’t win the competition in the first five weeks (Canes fans..)

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                                    • DuluthD Duluth

                                      @number9 said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                      Not impressed with my Blues, we should of killed thr Crusaders with all the possession we had.

                                      I agree. Loads of errors and the passing in the backs has been off. Seems like the players and coach acknowledge that too.

                                      We’re picking up wins and have plenty of home games coming up. You don’t win the competition in the first five weeks (Canes fans..)

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                                      @Duluth Yup, you only have to get to the finals. We learned that the hard way in 2022. It's important when you peak as we faded from about the Brumbies game in Canberra that year and ended up scraping through to the final before getting done by the Crusaders.

                                      Chiefs fans will probably say the same about last season for them.

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                                      • number9N number9

                                        Not impressed with my Blues, we should of killed thr Crusaders with all the possession we had. Ref was handing out more cards than a black jack dealer which were justified. Don't think we executed that well

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                                        @number9 said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                        Not impressed with my Blues, we should of killed thr Crusaders with all the possession we had.

                                        Blues forwards were impressive

                                        Blues backs are where the issue lies

                                        Christie is a poor 9 whose spot should be under pressure - Perofeta played better than vs Tahs but still blew a number of good opportunities - they pick a midfield that isn't built to ball play but just big and run straight (whoever they pick it's the same M.O.) Forbes actually offered a bit of difference

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