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  • TimT Offline
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    Tim
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    So Sky will stop paying for NPC games after next year, and the result on here is ... crickets ...

    As was predicted many times, by insisting on having no losers you make everyone a loser.

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    • TimT Tim

      So Sky will stop paying for NPC games after next year, and the result on here is ... crickets ...

      As was predicted many times, by insisting on having no losers you make everyone a loser.

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      mariner4life
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      @Tim said in NZR review:

      So Sky will stop paying for NPC games after next year, and the result on here is ... crickets ...

      As was predicted many times, by insisting on having no losers you make everyone a loser.

      but i have been assured that people love the NPC and the crowds don't matter only the TV

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      • TimT Tim

        So Sky will stop paying for NPC games after next year, and the result on here is ... crickets ...

        As was predicted many times, by insisting on having no losers you make everyone a loser.

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        Bovidae
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        #257

        @Tim said in NZR review:

        So Sky will stop paying for NPC games after next year, and the result on here is ... crickets ...

        I'm waiting for an official announcement, not the word of the Sweatie journo. But then I go to the home NPC games.

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          @Tim said in NZR review:

          So Sky will stop paying for NPC games after next year, and the result on here is ... crickets ...

          As was predicted many times, by insisting on having no losers you make everyone a loser.

          but i have been assured that people love the NPC and the crowds don't matter only the TV

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          Nepia
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          #258

          @mariner4life said in NZR review:

          @Tim said in NZR review:

          So Sky will stop paying for NPC games after next year, and the result on here is ... crickets ...

          As was predicted many times, by insisting on having no losers you make everyone a loser.

          but i have been assured that people love the NPC and the crowds don't matter only the TV

          Well TJ was the one saying that often - and pre Covid the NPC was the third most viewed Sky sport after ABs and Super.

          Has viewing dropped off that much since then? Or is this all part of the current politics going on in NZ rugby.

          Ah well, I guess I save money not having to outlay for Stan all year round now.

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            @Tim said in NZR review:

            So Sky will stop paying for NPC games after next year, and the result on here is ... crickets ...

            As was predicted many times, by insisting on having no losers you make everyone a loser.

            but i have been assured that people love the NPC and the crowds don't matter only the TV

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            Tim
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            #259

            @mariner4life Imagine the tragedy of a competition where your team couldn't play Southland, Manawatu, Counties, and Otago every year!

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            • NepiaN Nepia

              @mariner4life said in NZR review:

              @Tim said in NZR review:

              So Sky will stop paying for NPC games after next year, and the result on here is ... crickets ...

              As was predicted many times, by insisting on having no losers you make everyone a loser.

              but i have been assured that people love the NPC and the crowds don't matter only the TV

              Well TJ was the one saying that often - and pre Covid the NPC was the third most viewed Sky sport after ABs and Super.

              Has viewing dropped off that much since then? Or is this all part of the current politics going on in NZ rugby.

              Ah well, I guess I save money not having to outlay for Stan all year round now.

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              Tim
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              @Nepia Now you take TJ seriously?

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              • TimT Tim

                @Nepia Now you take TJ seriously?

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                Nepia
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                @Tim said in NZR review:

                @Nepia Now you take TJ seriously?

                When he's not commentating (Cantabs, Ta$man and Blues) and discussing his workplace I didn't see any reason not to take him seriously

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                • TimT Tim

                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/dame-patsy-reddy-threatens-to-resign-as-nz-rugby-chair-over-governance-standoff/OGTFBJDXGBBBPMSOMLQYSNPJIA/

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                  Winger
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                  @Tim said in NZR review:

                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/dame-patsy-reddy-threatens-to-resign-as-nz-rugby-chair-over-governance-standoff/OGTFBJDXGBBBPMSOMLQYSNPJIA/

                  Let her go ahead and do it. Would she be a big loss? Although these quota's might be a factor

                  And this doesn't seem unreasonable. 3 out of 9. Why is this such a big issue

                  The Herald understands that Reddy, not for the first time, told the provincial unions that if they continue to push alternative proposals that seek to maintain at least three New Zealand Rugby board members with at least two years’ experience on a provincial board, she could not support it and would, therefore, resign from her post.

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                  • NepiaN Nepia

                    @Tim said in NZR review:

                    @Nepia Now you take TJ seriously?

                    When he's not commentating (Cantabs, Ta$man and Blues) and discussing his workplace I didn't see any reason not to take him seriously

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                    Tim
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                    @Nepia I find it difficult to believe that NPC has more viewers than NRL.

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                    • TimT Tim

                      @Nepia I find it difficult to believe that NPC has more viewers than NRL.

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                      @Tim said in NZR review:

                      @Nepia I find it difficult to believe that NPC has more viewers than NRL.

                      That's because of the hype of machine of last year. The Warriors always get ok viewership, awesome last year, but the rest of the comp generally doesn't.

                      There was a Ray Morgan report from pre-covid which I had somewhere, NPC had more viewers (in it's short period) than the 20 whatever week NRL

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                      • NepiaN Nepia

                        @Tim said in NZR review:

                        @Nepia I find it difficult to believe that NPC has more viewers than NRL.

                        That's because of the hype of machine of last year. The Warriors always get ok viewership, awesome last year, but the rest of the comp generally doesn't.

                        There was a Ray Morgan report from pre-covid which I had somewhere, NPC had more viewers (in it's short period) than the 20 whatever week NRL

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                        Tim
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                        #265

                        @Nepia Do you have a link? Because right now you have a vaguely remembered claim from the idiot "TJ" that dates back to "pre-covid". I find that rather uncompelling.

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                        • TimT Tim

                          @Nepia Do you have a link? Because right now you have a vaguely remembered claim from the idiot "TJ" that dates back to "pre-covid". I find that rather uncompelling.

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                          Nepia
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                          @Tim said in NZR review:

                          @Nepia Do you have a link? Because right now you have a vaguely remembered claim from the idiot "TJ" that dates back to "pre-covid". I find that rather uncompelling.

                          Sorry, I didn't say TJ said that about the NPC and NRL, he just said good viewership at the dinner I saw him at. There was a dash in my original post separating the response to Mariner and the comment about viewership in regards to the NRL.

                          Here I'll hunt it down for you.
                          https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/rugby-viewership-more-than-double-rugby-league-in-nz

                          2018, a year earlier than I thought.

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                          • NepiaN Nepia

                            @Tim said in NZR review:

                            @Nepia Do you have a link? Because right now you have a vaguely remembered claim from the idiot "TJ" that dates back to "pre-covid". I find that rather uncompelling.

                            Sorry, I didn't say TJ said that about the NPC and NRL, he just said good viewership at the dinner I saw him at. There was a dash in my original post separating the response to Mariner and the comment about viewership in regards to the NRL.

                            Here I'll hunt it down for you.
                            https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/rugby-viewership-more-than-double-rugby-league-in-nz

                            2018, a year earlier than I thought.

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                            Tim
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                            #267

                            @Nepia Thanks for the link. 2021 saw the loss of the Auckland teams for the season, and 2022 the change in the structure from having two divisions, which may have hurt viewing figures.

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              @Tim said in NZR review:

                              So Sky will stop paying for NPC games after next year, and the result on here is ... crickets ...

                              I'm waiting for an official announcement, not the word of the Sweatie journo. But then I go to the home NPC games.

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                              Dan54
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #268

                              @Bovidae said in NZR review:

                              @Tim said in NZR review:

                              So Sky will stop paying for NPC games after next year, and the result on here is ... crickets ...

                              I'm waiting for an official announcement, not the word of the Sweatie journo. But then I go to the home NPC games.

                              I will wait official announcement, but I'm kind of torn both ways.
                              Without sky pulling strings we will have a lot more day games , much better for crowds, and also think we will find it getting picked up by FTA. There has already been hints that NPC comp wants a tie in with FTA/TVI. Who are getting into sports with cricker etc.

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                              • Dan54D Dan54

                                @Bovidae said in NZR review:

                                @Tim said in NZR review:

                                So Sky will stop paying for NPC games after next year, and the result on here is ... crickets ...

                                I'm waiting for an official announcement, not the word of the Sweatie journo. But then I go to the home NPC games.

                                I will wait official announcement, but I'm kind of torn both ways.
                                Without sky pulling strings we will have a lot more day games , much better for crowds, and also think we will find it getting picked up by FTA. There has already been hints that NPC comp wants a tie in with FTA/TVI. Who are getting into sports with cricker etc.

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                                Bovidae
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #269

                                @Dan54 said in NZR review:

                                Without sky pulling strings we will have a lot more day games

                                Good point. More family friendly and better weather.

                                If this happens Sky will lose subscribers but they will have done the maths and probably save money. They've already pissed off the Netball community.

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                                  mikedogz
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                                  The provinces could end up streaming their home games. Add a few more cameras more than they do for club rugby.

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                                    Machpants
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                                    At $400000 per match, I'm not surprised they are stopping televising. That's crazy money

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      @Dan54 said in NZR review:

                                      Without sky pulling strings we will have a lot more day games

                                      Good point. More family friendly and better weather.

                                      If this happens Sky will lose subscribers but they will have done the maths and probably save money. They've already pissed off the Netball community.

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                                      antipodean
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                                      @Bovidae said in NZR review:

                                      They've already pissed off the Netball community.

                                      All 18 of them?

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                                        Machpants
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                                        Also

                                        “One company comes along and says ‘here’s nine people but none of them have built a house before but trust us we know what we’re doing’. The next company comes along and six haven’t built a house but three have had some association with building a deck. The final company has three licensed builders with 10 years’ experience. Common sense says you pick the final company.

                                        “The same logic applies here.”

                                        Yeah because running a multi million international product is exactly the same as building a deck. This really shows why provincial admin need to step back, they really are provincial

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                                          Mr Fish
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                                          On the NPC v NRL chat, the big difference is that Sky's costs for the NRL would be considerably less because Sky are also in charge of producing the broadcast for the NPC, whereas they would largely just be buying the rights for NRL matches.

                                          So even if the benefits of broadcasting the NPC slightly outweigh the benefits of broadcasting the NRL, the costs are incomparable.

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