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  • NTAN Offline
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    To my earlier point: this is why league are streets ahead of us. They don't eat themselves when it comes to what matters.

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      there is often a debate wabout what actually is Australia's national sport. Is it AFL? Beloved in 3 states and growing in 2 others. Is it cricket, the one true national love that owns the summer? Is it swimming, where australia pours millions looking for medals.

      None of these are right, the national sport of Australia is the spill. At it's highest level, this is the all too often seen toppling of an elected Prime Minister by a cabinet spooked by polls, or just because some other narcissist wants the job more.

      https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/03/27/previous-chairman-can-not-be-a-scapegoat-first-salvo-fired-in-bid-to-spill-the-rugby-australia-board/

      Rugby is trying for its time in the spotlight, as some other group of probable ex-administrators and Shute Shield devotees posing as the solution to all rugby's woes pushes to get rid of the entire Board and start again.

      Face value? they have a point. But shit, read their letter, they seem like Hamish McLennan's mates trying to absolve him of the guilt and get everyone else fired as well.

      Should be a fun AGM

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      @mariner4life this bit isn't wrong though is it?

      “In fact, the current Chair and the current CEO were directors who were a so called ‘Board Rugby Committee’ and they supported the action to dismiss the Wallaby coach and the appointment of his replacement.

      Zero accountability, but it looks like they identified an opportunity to climb further up the greasy pole.

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        no, they aren't wrong, the whole shitshow should go.

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          https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/my-heart-is-in-rugby-jorgensen-turns-down-roosters-to-chase-wallabies-dream-20240327-p5ffm8.html

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/my-heart-is-in-rugby-jorgensen-turns-down-roosters-to-chase-wallabies-dream-20240327-p5ffm8.html

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            #4730

            @KiwiMurph You'd have to be dim-witted to not hang on for a Lions Tour.

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              https://twitter.com/wallabies/status/1774904572034822608?t=2lrwtarCddCvmlq-fsRhMQ&s=19

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              • NTAN Offline
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                Laurie Fisher & Mike Cron. That's a helluva pairing.

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                • KiwiMurphK Offline
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                  Night and day compared to Eddie hiring 2000s League players Brett Hodgson and Jason Ryles as coaches

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                  • TimT Away
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                    Tim
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                    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/melbourne-rebels-to-share-tarneit-with-western-united-as-part-of-consortium-rescue-plan-20240403-p5fgzc.html

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                      will wait for it to trickle down to free media, heading out to the suburbs isn't going to save them surely...theyre just making it harder for the few fans they have to go to games

                      Rugby Vic has just built a new home up at La Trobe uni...not exactly close but at least there is a base of people to attract, the pitch is going to be up to scratch so stick some temp seating around and bobs your uncle

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                      • KiwiwombleK Online
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                        https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/04/03/pe-backed-consortium-in-final-stages-to-save-melbourne-rebels-with-30m-injection-and-link-with-a-league-club/?fbclid=IwAR36l5kOkSUQBF9NAMEvGGgdtj5bjmm7jsGf8IiCtoJErMu4hvJJbTBRANU_aem_AahKRKNBKGx08CyTBsIh63YRBN3INnljE03OFt8TzswP0p1qJrIByO85U8q5m4BZPhUjdvBtOPYHmbKoK1jlNChw

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                          https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/the-waratahs-self-inflicted-pressure-and-the-crippling-weight-of-expectation/

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                          • NTAN Offline
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                            When has that ever NOT been the case, outside the Cheika era?

                            It's funny because I was reading some old Annual Reports from our Union (Subbies) and the Chairman's reports were saying "hard times ahead" etc. back in 2007 and several times since.

                            About time we pulled our fucking heads out and stopped thinking we can get different results doing the same stupid shit

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                              DC’s a good man. Done it tough and come good at every level after finding his feet. You’d have thought the Tahs would’ve planned on some mediocre seasons while DC adapted to the step up & they fixed their obvious organizational/talent ID & development issues.

                              So it makes sense they’d give him the chop before they could see a return on their investment in his development. Doesn’t help that he’s far from a political animal, probably doesn’t even own a tie, let alone one from the right old school.

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                                https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/04/05/what-the-rebels-players-should-be-demanding-to-know-as-twiggys-ex-rival-throws-a-familiar-hail-mary/

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                                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/former-wallaby-kurtley-beale-inks-short-term-deal-with-the-western-force/

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                                    Based on last night, as much as they could benefit from a player of his talent and experience, the problem was in the forwards.

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                                      DC’s a good man. Done it tough and come good at every level after finding his feet. You’d have thought the Tahs would’ve planned on some mediocre seasons while DC adapted to the step up & they fixed their obvious organizational/talent ID & development issues.

                                      So it makes sense they’d give him the chop before they could see a return on their investment in his development. Doesn’t help that he’s far from a political animal, probably doesn’t even own a tie, let alone one from the right old school.

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                                      @Smuts said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                                      DC’s a good man. Done it tough and come good at every level after finding his feet. You’d have thought the Tahs would’ve planned on some mediocre seasons while DC adapted to the step up & they fixed their obvious organizational/talent ID & development issues.

                                      So it makes sense they’d give him the chop before they could see a return on their investment in his development. Doesn’t help that he’s far from a political animal, probably doesn’t even own a tie, let alone one from the right old school.

                                      https://x.com/kickoffskickons/status/1773251619213148228?s=46

                                      All of this

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                                      • SmutsS Smuts

                                        DC’s a good man. Done it tough and come good at every level after finding his feet. You’d have thought the Tahs would’ve planned on some mediocre seasons while DC adapted to the step up & they fixed their obvious organizational/talent ID & development issues.

                                        So it makes sense they’d give him the chop before they could see a return on their investment in his development. Doesn’t help that he’s far from a political animal, probably doesn’t even own a tie, let alone one from the right old school.

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                                        @Smuts said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                                        You’d have thought the Tahs would’ve planned on some mediocre seasons while DC adapted to the step up & they fixed their obvious organizational/talent ID & development issues.

                                        You give them waaaaay too much credit.

                                        Some of the back office want the game to improve. Some of them are even working toward that.

                                        However there are a bunch of people who just assume a lack of success is down to the right coach and the rest of it doesn't matter.

                                        And, after Cheika won a decade ago with much the same shitty system, who can blame them for thinking that way? They're lazy, bloated minds, fat on imagined glory; they think that their school/club/etc is fine so why can't NSW just "be like that?"

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                                        • NTAN Offline
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                                          This could go in the Aus Community Rugby thread as well, but:

                                          As we transition into the new central model, there won't even be anything meaningful in terms of change at NSW, I predict. What they've not looked ahead to is the changes required to the financial model.

                                          Without what little TV money they had, who funds community rugby? Because it can barely fund itself.

                                          My club is looking at around the following per team we field as line items:
                                          $2000 - New playing kit (jerseys, shorts, socks assumes 25 players)
                                          $ 550 - Regisration fee with Suburban Rugby
                                          $1000 - Rugby Australia "Participation Fee" paid to NSW Rugby
                                          $2700 - Insurance
                                          $1400 - physio
                                          $ 900 - consumables
                                          $1000 - post-match costs
                                          $1250 - live streaming platform

                                          $10,800 - we try to get 2-year deals for jersey sponsors to limit that cost, but doesn't always happen.

                                          If I was to fund that purely through player payments (ha!) it would be over $400 per player. We charge $150, so have to find the other ~$300 per player ($7k) through a combination of grants, sponsors, and public generosity.

                                          How sustainable is that? We don't have rich benefactors who throw a pile of cash at us, no questions asked. It is local businesses who are also feeling the cost-of-living pinch.

                                          Private schools who play rugby will continue to get squillions in government grants to build hyperbaric chambers for their athletes to recover in.

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