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Court to decide if Ontario must pay for surgery to make vagina if patient also wants to keep penis
A non-binary Ontario resident is locked in a legal battle over public funding for surgery to create a vagina while leaving the penis intact
I was going to say he can go fuck himself, but won't...
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
After Scotland's Hate Crime law comes into force (it apparently makes calling a trans woman a biological male - even in private - a potential criminal offence), JK Rowling calls 11 trans women biological males and dares the police to arrest her.
this was all over by tea time yesterday with Police Scotland confirming that no laws had been broken in the above thread, i.e. its still legal to say a transwoman is a man (i still can't believe i need to write that down in 2024).
One caveat however, we have yet to find out if the above has been recorded as a non crime hate incident (what even is that for fucks sake?). Problem with these for normal people is that they will be recorded and accessible and can be used in the future to monitor a pattern of behaviour etc. Personally i find it outrageous that the police will record these however I also think its unsustainable and will disappear in due course.
As crazy as Scotland is, I am still grateful to be living in the UK rather than Canada or Australia. Still watching Tickle vs Giggle with interest.
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I heard yesterday the Police in Scotland are actively investigating a complaint against someone for criticizing Israel's activities in Gaza on the basis it stirred up hate against Israelis living in Scotland.
Madness and/or "be careful what you wish for"
One caveat however, we have yet to find out if the above has been recorded as a non crime hate incident (what even is that for fucks sake?). Problem with these for normal people is that they will be recorded and accessible and can be used in the future to monitor a pattern of behaviour etc.
Think that's been banned in England/Wales and likely to be banned in Scotland when challenged in the Supreme Court.
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It’s genuinely staggering that JK Rowling has single handedly blown up this law and its policing in just 24 hours. The woman is a fucking machine. The TRAs are now claiming it was never going to be a crime or even an NCHI to misgender someone, and everyone knew that, except they didn’t, the government and the police have both refused to confirm this before this week. The Scottish government actively refused to accept an amendment that would protect women’s rights to say it on the behest of the trans lobby.
JK Rowling by stating loud and proud that trans women are men, by challenging the state to arrest her, by highlighting how farcical the whole thing is, by drawing global attention to it, by offering to repeat any other woman’s claim who gets investigated for similar has single handedly cut it off at the knees. Outside of Martin Johnson and Jonny, I don’t really do hero worship but fuck me she’s amazing.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
She's gone and done it again....
Legendary
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For a lot of these guys it's pretty obviously a fetish
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Tickle vs Giggle started yesterday in Australia, CASS report published today in the UK.
Reading the tribunaltweets2 account today of the process is genuinely infuriating and ridiculous in equal measure. Hearing the AHRC argue that not only can men become women, but that males can also become female shows how far down the rabbit hole these organisations have fallen. Given the appalling capture of the legal system post Gillard's bill, I can't see how Sal Grover wins this case but assuming she's still committed to the appeal to the Supreme Court it may be a necessary step to peak the Australian public and eventually get the law reexamined.
As for the CASS report, holy shit, what a vindication of people like Graham Linehan who've been cancelled for stating exactly what this report has found. That Gender affirming care, puberty blockers and hormones prescribed to children were based not on a medical evidence base but on a social pressure. I hope this is the beginning of the end of the concept of Trans kids and the immediate end of what at this stage can only be thought of as child abuse.
The world is waking up but the TRA lobby will not go quietly.
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@Dodge said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
the rabbit hole these organisations have fallen. Given the appalling capture of the legal system post Gillard's bill, I can't see how Sal Grover wins this case but assuming she's still committed to the appeal to the Supreme Court it may be a necessary step to peak the Australian public and eventually get the law reexamined.
Not across the "law" here, but commonsense tells you ... oh, yeah sorry...
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@Dodge said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
The world is waking up but the TRA lobby will not go quietly.
Was listening to a phone-in on the Cass Report and some of trans lobby were unbelievable - calling the report a licence to murder Trans people, comparable to the Holocaust, etc, etc.
Seriously deranged and dangerous people.
Transgender debate, in sport, in general
Transgender public defender appears before Seattle court
