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    ruggabee
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    How can anyone watch that display and still be opposed to open eligibility & salary cap across SRP?

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      How can anyone watch that display and still be opposed to open eligibility & salary cap across SRP?

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      Machpants
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      @ruggabee said in Blues v Force:

      How can anyone watch that display and still be opposed to open eligibility & salary cap across SRP?

      Easy. I don't want the All Blacks being part of teams that play like that. Winning and playing well breeds winning and playing well

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        @ruggabee said in Blues v Force:

        How can anyone watch that display and still be opposed to open eligibility & salary cap across SRP?

        Easy. I don't want the All Blacks being part of teams that play like that. Winning and playing well breeds winning and playing well

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        @Machpants said in Blues v Force:

        @ruggabee said in Blues v Force:

        How can anyone watch that display and still be opposed to open eligibility & salary cap across SRP?

        Easy. I don't want the All Blacks being part of teams that play like that. Winning and playing well breeds winning and playing well

        So basically you don't care about the viability & future of the game in the Australasia region? Keep sticking your head in the sand mate.

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          @ruggabee said in Blues v Force:

          How can anyone watch that display and still be opposed to open eligibility & salary cap across SRP?

          Easy. I don't want the All Blacks being part of teams that play like that. Winning and playing well breeds winning and playing well

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          Kirwan
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          @Machpants said in Blues v Force:

          @ruggabee said in Blues v Force:

          How can anyone watch that display and still be opposed to open eligibility & salary cap across SRP?

          Easy. I don't want the All Blacks being part of teams that play like that. Winning and playing well breeds winning and playing well

          Fuck the aussies, they can sort out their own teams. Go down to three to have three good teams instead 1 and four average.

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            @ruggabee said in Blues v Force:

            How can anyone watch that display and still be opposed to open eligibility & salary cap across SRP?

            Easy. I don't want the All Blacks being part of teams that play like that. Winning and playing well breeds winning and playing well

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            @Machpants said in Blues v Force:

            @ruggabee said in Blues v Force:

            How can anyone watch that display and still be opposed to open eligibility & salary cap across SRP?

            Easy. I don't want the All Blacks being part of teams that play like that. Winning and playing well breeds winning and playing well

            x100

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            • KirwanK Kirwan

              @Machpants said in Blues v Force:

              @ruggabee said in Blues v Force:

              How can anyone watch that display and still be opposed to open eligibility & salary cap across SRP?

              Easy. I don't want the All Blacks being part of teams that play like that. Winning and playing well breeds winning and playing well

              Fuck the aussies, they can sort out their own teams. Go down to three to have three good teams instead 1 and four average.

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              Mattasaurus
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              @Kirwan said in Blues v Force:

              @Machpants said in Blues v Force:

              @ruggabee said in Blues v Force:

              How can anyone watch that display and still be opposed to open eligibility & salary cap across SRP?

              Easy. I don't want the All Blacks being part of teams that play like that. Winning and playing well breeds winning and playing well

              Fuck the aussies, they can sort out their own teams. Go down to three to have three good teams instead 1 and four average.

              WELL SAID!

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                Dan54
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                Besides where else are journeyman going to go to get retirement pension?? Christ they got some ordinary players they have brought!

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                • KirwanK Kirwan

                  @Machpants said in Blues v Force:

                  @ruggabee said in Blues v Force:

                  How can anyone watch that display and still be opposed to open eligibility & salary cap across SRP?

                  Easy. I don't want the All Blacks being part of teams that play like that. Winning and playing well breeds winning and playing well

                  Fuck the aussies, they can sort out their own teams. Go down to three to have three good teams instead 1 and four average.

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                  ruggabee
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                  @Kirwan said in Blues v Force:

                  @Machpants said in Blues v Force:

                  @ruggabee said in Blues v Force:

                  How can anyone watch that display and still be opposed to open eligibility & salary cap across SRP?

                  Easy. I don't want the All Blacks being part of teams that play like that. Winning and playing well breeds winning and playing well

                  Fuck the aussies, they can sort out their own teams. Go down to three to have three good teams instead 1 and four average.

                  they will only lose more players overseas that way, where's the second tier competition in Australia?

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                    Mattasaurus
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                    Lets not forget what utter twats the ARU has been for years - NZ don't owe them a thing, and its certainly not our responsibility to grow/save the game in Australia by sending our players over there

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                      IIRC, the official stats for the starting forward pack weights had the Blues over 60kg heavier. That's about 8kg per player!

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                        Lets not forget what utter twats the ARU has been for years - NZ don't owe them a thing, and its certainly not our responsibility to grow/save the game in Australia by sending our players over there

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                        taniwharugby
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                        @Mattasaurus might not be our responsibility but it is still important Aus improve, thier rapid decline coincided with thr SA teams exit.

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                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                          @Machpants said in Blues v Force:

                          @ruggabee said in Blues v Force:

                          How can anyone watch that display and still be opposed to open eligibility & salary cap across SRP?

                          Easy. I don't want the All Blacks being part of teams that play like that. Winning and playing well breeds winning and playing well

                          Fuck the aussies, they can sort out their own teams. Go down to three to have three good teams instead 1 and four average.

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                          ruggabee
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                          @Kirwan said in Blues v Force:

                          @Machpants said in Blues v Force:

                          @ruggabee said in Blues v Force:

                          How can anyone watch that display and still be opposed to open eligibility & salary cap across SRP?

                          Easy. I don't want the All Blacks being part of teams that play like that. Winning and playing well breeds winning and playing well

                          Fuck the aussies,

                          I really don't think that's an option - we kind of need their sporting market and Japan to survive going forward...

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                            @Kirwan said in Blues v Force:

                            @Machpants said in Blues v Force:

                            @ruggabee said in Blues v Force:

                            How can anyone watch that display and still be opposed to open eligibility & salary cap across SRP?

                            Easy. I don't want the All Blacks being part of teams that play like that. Winning and playing well breeds winning and playing well

                            Fuck the aussies,

                            I really don't think that's an option - we kind of need their sporting market and Japan to survive going forward...

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                            Machpants
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                            @ruggabee said in Blues v Force:

                            @Kirwan said in Blues v Force:

                            @Machpants said in Blues v Force:

                            @ruggabee said in Blues v Force:

                            How can anyone watch that display and still be opposed to open eligibility & salary cap across SRP?

                            Easy. I don't want the All Blacks being part of teams that play like that. Winning and playing well breeds winning and playing well

                            Fuck the aussies,

                            I really don't think that's an option - we kind of need their sporting market and Japan to survive going forward...

                            They need to lift, not us need to go down to their level by spreading our talent (which is thinning) even further

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                              ruggabee
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                              Only 14 games with 3 bye rounds. How did they sign a broadcast deal? No other competition in the world is so determined on hand-braking itself by minimizing content and disillusioning supporters it seems.

                              I hate these mid season bye weeks. What they do is it takes away so much of the momentum out of the season as a viewer.

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                              • M Machpants

                                @ruggabee said in Blues v Force:

                                @Kirwan said in Blues v Force:

                                @Machpants said in Blues v Force:

                                @ruggabee said in Blues v Force:

                                How can anyone watch that display and still be opposed to open eligibility & salary cap across SRP?

                                Easy. I don't want the All Blacks being part of teams that play like that. Winning and playing well breeds winning and playing well

                                Fuck the aussies,

                                I really don't think that's an option - we kind of need their sporting market and Japan to survive going forward...

                                They need to lift, not us need to go down to their level by spreading our talent (which is thinning) even further

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                                ruggabee
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                                @Machpants said in Blues v Force:

                                @ruggabee said in Blues v Force:

                                @Kirwan said in Blues v Force:

                                @Machpants said in Blues v Force:

                                @ruggabee said in Blues v Force:

                                How can anyone watch that display and still be opposed to open eligibility & salary cap across SRP?

                                Easy. I don't want the All Blacks being part of teams that play like that. Winning and playing well breeds winning and playing well

                                Fuck the aussies,

                                I really don't think that's an option - we kind of need their sporting market and Japan to survive going forward...

                                They need to lift, not us need to go down to their level by spreading our talent (which is thinning) even further

                                We also lose talent because there's only 5 professional teams and limited opportunities for players.

                                The Hurricanes have 2nd and 3rd choice options who are as good or better than their 1st choice, like Harry Godfrey for example who could be starting at 10 and playing 80 minutes every week for an Australian side right now.

                                Isn't it better for our talent - ultimately to be playing in the SRP competition, which is aiming to become the strongest in the world, rather than the alternative of going to play in Japan or Europe?

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                                  Kirwan
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                                  No, that’s just a quick way to have our players turning out for Oz. And at the same time diluting our depth.

                                  If we are going to do that, I’d rather have another couple of NZ super rugby teams.

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                                    No, that’s just a quick way to have our players turning out for Oz. And at the same time diluting our depth.

                                    If we are going to do that, I’d rather have another couple of NZ super rugby teams.

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                                    ruggabee
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                                    @Kirwan said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                    No, that’s just a quick way to have our players turning out for Oz. And at the same time diluting our depth.

                                    I wouldn't mind that at all, in fact I would welcome both of those things, we should be doing everything we can to ensure the future of the professional game in the Australasia/Pacific region, rather than caring exclusively about what's best for All Blacks.

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                                      mariner4life
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                                      This comp is doomed

                                      We've had our "isn't super rugby so great and even this year" rounds, and now the good teams are starting to put the foot down, and the shit teams (most of the comp) are falling away

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                                        @Machpants said in Blues v Force:

                                        @ruggabee said in Blues v Force:

                                        @Kirwan said in Blues v Force:

                                        @Machpants said in Blues v Force:

                                        @ruggabee said in Blues v Force:

                                        How can anyone watch that display and still be opposed to open eligibility & salary cap across SRP?

                                        Easy. I don't want the All Blacks being part of teams that play like that. Winning and playing well breeds winning and playing well

                                        Fuck the aussies,

                                        I really don't think that's an option - we kind of need their sporting market and Japan to survive going forward...

                                        They need to lift, not us need to go down to their level by spreading our talent (which is thinning) even further

                                        We also lose talent because there's only 5 professional teams and limited opportunities for players.

                                        The Hurricanes have 2nd and 3rd choice options who are as good or better than their 1st choice, like Harry Godfrey for example who could be starting at 10 and playing 80 minutes every week for an Australian side right now.

                                        Isn't it better for our talent - ultimately to be playing in the SRP competition, which is aiming to become the strongest in the world, rather than the alternative of going to play in Japan or Europe?

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                                        antipodean
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                                        @ruggabee said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                        @Machpants said in Blues v Force:

                                        @ruggabee said in Blues v Force:

                                        @Kirwan said in Blues v Force:

                                        @Machpants said in Blues v Force:

                                        @ruggabee said in Blues v Force:

                                        How can anyone watch that display and still be opposed to open eligibility & salary cap across SRP?

                                        Easy. I don't want the All Blacks being part of teams that play like that. Winning and playing well breeds winning and playing well

                                        Fuck the aussies,

                                        I really don't think that's an option - we kind of need their sporting market and Japan to survive going forward...

                                        They need to lift, not us need to go down to their level by spreading our talent (which is thinning) even further

                                        We also lose talent because there's only 5 professional teams and limited opportunities for players.

                                        The Hurricanes have 2nd and 3rd choice options who are as good or better than their 1st choice, like Harry Godfrey for example who could be starting at 10 and playing 80 minutes every week for an Australian side right now.

                                        Isn't it better for our talent - ultimately to be playing in the SRP competition, which is aiming to become the strongest in the world, rather than the alternative of going to play in Japan or Europe?

                                        The only way that works for NZ is for us to own the competition, much like they own the NRL.

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                                          @Kirwan said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                          No, that’s just a quick way to have our players turning out for Oz. And at the same time diluting our depth.

                                          I wouldn't mind that at all, in fact I would welcome both of those things, we should be doing everything we can to ensure the future of the professional game in the Australasia/Pacific region, rather than caring exclusively about what's best for All Blacks.

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                                          @ruggabee said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                          @Kirwan said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                          No, that’s just a quick way to have our players turning out for Oz. And at the same time diluting our depth.

                                          I wouldn't mind that at all, in fact I would welcome both of those things, we should be doing everything we can to ensure the future of the professional game in the Australasia/Pacific region, rather than caring exclusively about what's best for All Blacks.

                                          You want less depth in NZ and Kiwis playing for Australia?

                                          That weakens the All Blacks, makes the brand less valuable and results in the opposite of what you say you want.

                                          To safeguard Rugby in this neck of the woods we can’t have all our eggs in the Aussie basket. Japan, the island nations and Australia all need to grow (with their own players).

                                          At least one less Aussie team, at least one Japanese team (I’d prefer two of each there) and keep the progress of the Drua and Pasifika.

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