EPL 2023/2024
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We've picked up 23 points from 18 games against the top 10
Meanwhile we've dropped 10 points from 7 games against the bottom 4.
With our very Fulhamish form and games yet to come against City, Liverpool and Luton the title race and relegation battle are both still wide open....
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The stats over this little four game disaster for Liverpool are terrible. The loss to Man U in the FA Cup, the loss to Atalanta in the Europa League, the draw to Man U and the loss to Palace in the league, four games and they are out of three competitions.
And in those four games they have
Averaged 66% of the ball
had 93 shots to 56
the telling stat, 29 shots on target to 28 (31% to 50%)
Been out-scored 6-9They have been loose and sloppy and it's all quietly gone to shit.
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@DaGrubster You sound like every paranoid football fan in the world! Agree that City got lucky with Villa's squad rotation but every fan seems convinced that their team get all the bad decisions and that other teams get favouritism.
@KiwiPie said in EPL 2023/2024:
@DaGrubster You sound like every paranoid football fan in the world! Agree that City got lucky with Villa's squad rotation but every fan seems convinced that their team get all the bad decisions and that other teams get favouritism.
Well to be fair we all know that decisions more than often go to the big teams.
Man U can also count themselves lucky after the weekend
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@DaGrubster Agreed. I saw the FA Cup draw announced by a Newcastle journo on Twitter (Newcastle away to City) and lots of fans replying that the draw was rigged against them.
Bit early to call the title race over with just a 2 point gap and the Arse having a better goal difference. I know City don't generally drop points in April and May but they are looking much shakier at the back than previous seasons.
UCL first legs were all good games and none of them decided which should make for an exciting week. Hard to pick the final 4 without the away goals rule.
Congratulations to Bayer Leverkusen, winning their first ever title with 5 games to spare. They sold their best player (Moussa Diaby) and their biggest transfer in was Nathan Tella from Southampton.
@KiwiPie said in EPL 2023/2024:
@DaGrubster Agreed. I saw the FA Cup draw announced by a Newcastle journo on Twitter (Newcastle away to City) and lots of fans replying that the draw was rigged against them.
Bit early to call the title race over with just a 2 point gap and the Arse having a better goal difference. I know City don't generally drop points in April and May but they are looking much shakier at the back than previous seasons.
UCL first legs were all good games and none of them decided which should make for an exciting week. Hard to pick the final 4 without the away goals rule.
Congratulations to Bayer Leverkusen, winning their first ever title with 5 games to spare. They sold their best player (Moussa Diaby) and their biggest transfer in was Nathan Tella from Southampton.
Agree on Man city. They're favourites now but they don't feel quite as inevitable this season. I think there's still a couple of twists left, I think there will be more points dropped all round.
I was surprised that Leverkusen had never won a title, I was sure they had won one when Ballack was playing for them, but just series of heartberaks.
Ends Kingsley Coman's run - first time as a senior pro that he doesn't win the league title. Probably a fair few others at Bayern with similar streaks ending, but Coman managed his run across three different leagues!
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What's even more remarkable about Alonso at Leverkusen is that he took over in October 2022 with them 2nd from last and took them to a Europa League spot. They are unbeaten all season in 2023/24 so far - League, Cup (final to be played) and Europa League (into the semis if West Ham can't get past them).
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@KiwiPie said in EPL 2023/2024:
@DaGrubster You sound like every paranoid football fan in the world! Agree that City got lucky with Villa's squad rotation but every fan seems convinced that their team get all the bad decisions and that other teams get favouritism.
Well to be fair we all know that decisions more than often go to the big teams.
Man U can also count themselves lucky after the weekend
@bayimports I think Man U's penalty probably was a pen as Smith made a move towards the ball with his arm - undeserved though as United did nothing in the 2nd half. The overturned pen for Bournemouth just about correct as well if you go strictly from when contact was initiated. Unlucky for Bournemouth though, so much the better team.
Ten Hag lives in his own delusional world with his post match comments - he just complains about their bad luck and how they could be in the top 4 race - I reckon he is lucky they are as high as they are.
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When Xhaka and Kane both left North London for Germany I bet no one thought it would be the former who would be winning the Bundesliga title.
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What's even more remarkable about Alonso at Leverkusen is that he took over in October 2022 with them 2nd from last and took them to a Europa League spot. They are unbeaten all season in 2023/24 so far - League, Cup (final to be played) and Europa League (into the semis if West Ham can't get past them).
His time at Leverkausen is the only games he has managed in a top flight league. Less than 80 matches!
It’s astonishing and would have loved it if agreed to move to Liverpool next year.
He must know that Leverkausen will be picked apart in the off season with 3-4 of their best players sold. Everytime Bayern Munich get challenged they buy the best players from the challenging team.
Next year will be a tough year for him!
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2 points isn't a lot this season IMO, I hope Arsenal bounce back, I hope Liverpool disappear without a trace.
I was at the Bayern Munich game on Saturday, picked a weird weekend to watch Bayern for the first time. One observation though, not having watched a lot of bundesliga before is just how slow the game is compared to the Premiership. Still, what a lovely afternoon, fan environment so much nicer than in England, much more akin to a rugby crowd relationship between the two sets of fans than a Premiership one. Entirely civilised being able to get Stein's served in your seat
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That was a big hit of nostalgia just there. Must be nearly 20 years since Dodge and I traded blows about Liverpool and Chelsea
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Cole palmer is really making a name for himself this season. 2-0 to Chelsea against Everton 18 mins gone. Palmer 2 goals.
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I doubt they will disappear as badly as Chelsea have
@DaGrubster said in EPL 2023/2024:
I doubt they will disappear as badly as Chelsea have
You reckon? I think once Klopp is gone you’ll be mid table at best next season.
Happy to post on this thread after a 6-0 win. Players squabbling on the pitch over a pen looked pathetic though. Have lost a lot of interest in it over the years, think I might be getting old. Always time for a Liverpool jibe though,
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2 points isn't a lot this season IMO, I hope Arsenal bounce back, I hope Liverpool disappear without a trace.
I was at the Bayern Munich game on Saturday, picked a weird weekend to watch Bayern for the first time. One observation though, not having watched a lot of bundesliga before is just how slow the game is compared to the Premiership. Still, what a lovely afternoon, fan environment so much nicer than in England, much more akin to a rugby crowd relationship between the two sets of fans than a Premiership one. Entirely civilised being able to get Stein's served in your seat
@Dodge at Allianz? still the best stadium i have ever been to.
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Cole Palmer IS Chelsea this season. They would be lost without him. Think Chelsea is summed up by players fighting on pitch about who takes the penalty…
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I've been awaiting the racism jibs to pop up and they haven't which has surprised me pleasantly to the upside.
The optics were two black men were fighting to take the penalty, the white captain took the ball and gave it to the white guy. Pretty easy for the woke brigade to come down on!
Superb performance by Chelsea, best of the season. Palmer looking like the best buy Chelsea have had in years.
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I've been awaiting the racism jibs to pop up and they haven't which has surprised me pleasantly to the upside.
The optics were two black men were fighting to take the penalty, the white captain took the ball and gave it to the white guy. Pretty easy for the woke brigade to come down on!
Superb performance by Chelsea, best of the season. Palmer looking like the best buy Chelsea have had in years.
@MajorRage
Chelsea are fucked financially and the accepted wisdom is that they need to find £100m profit from selling players to balance the books or they will be deducted points.
And that is just for this season. Next will be worse.
Best way to do it is sell English talent as they are pure profit if they are a ‘homegrown’ player.
So that Gallagher to Man U and Palmer to City.
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Cole Palmer IS Chelsea this season. They would be lost without him. Think Chelsea is summed up by players fighting on pitch about who takes the penalty…
@Billy-Tell said in EPL 2023/2024:
Cole Palmer IS Chelsea this season. They would be lost without him. Think Chelsea is summed up by players fighting on pitch about who takes the penalty…
Saw a clip of Delli Ali talking about it - he nailed it. Palmer is the penalty taker, and you didn't see those players squabbling to take the pen in the last minute a few weeks ago when there was jeopardy. Think Pochetino needs to be given free reign to clear out some of the dicks.
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@MajorRage
Chelsea are fucked financially and the accepted wisdom is that they need to find £100m profit from selling players to balance the books or they will be deducted points.
And that is just for this season. Next will be worse.
Best way to do it is sell English talent as they are pure profit if they are a ‘homegrown’ player.
So that Gallagher to Man U and Palmer to City.
If they don’t make Europe why not just take the deduction?
Chelsea are many things but fucked financially isn’t one of them.
