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Hurricanes 2024

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  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

    @Winger I would keep starting our best team over the next couple weeks. If we can bank wins against the Drua and the Brumbies away we could look to rest a few in our next home game against the Tahs. Brumbies is probably the most important one considering they are the closest to us on the table.

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    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

    @Winger I would keep starting our best team over the next couple weeks. If we can bank wins against the Drua and the Brumbies away we could look to rest a few in our next home game against the Tahs. Brumbies is probably the most important one considering they are the closest to us on the table.

    We don't want to lose momentum now. If we can get well ahead in any games perhaps they can run the subs sooner

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      It's the canes to lose this year, the teams just humming.

      I'd agree with keeping their best team on the field to further gel their combinations unless guys are carrying a niggle and really need a rest.

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      • Windows97W Windows97

        It's the canes to lose this year, the teams just humming.

        I'd agree with keeping their best team on the field to further gel their combinations unless guys are carrying a niggle and really need a rest.

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        @Windows97 they’ve just come off a bye aswell. No need to rest guys. Best to try and lock up first place and then rest guys before the playoffs.

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        • Windows97W Windows97

          It's the canes to lose this year, the teams just humming.

          I'd agree with keeping their best team on the field to further gel their combinations unless guys are carrying a niggle and really need a rest.

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          @Windows97 said in Hurricanes 2024:

          It's the canes to lose this year, the teams just humming.

          I'd agree with keeping their best team on the field to further gel their combinations unless guys are carrying a niggle and really need a rest.

          Yup, only if injured. No rest for rest sake

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          • D DaGrubster

            @Dan54

            Honestly, I think it is great for these guys to get exposure to NH rugby and elite clubs. He will learn a huge amount and do something different and earn some decent money (of course he is doing that at the moment!). And it’s pretty cool for him to go back to Ireland after his time there as a kid.

            When a player does a sabbatical, are they essentially getting double bubble from 2 contracts? Leinster and NZR?

            I assume he would still have a NZR contract during this time but maybe a reduced contract like some type of retainer?

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            @DaGrubster I guessing he still get's AB money , but not Canes?
            I like you and see positives, and can understand why players do it.

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            • Dan54D Dan54

              @DaGrubster I guessing he still get's AB money , but not Canes?
              I like you and see positives, and can understand why players do it.

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              @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2024:

              @DaGrubster I guessing he still get's AB money , but not Canes?
              I like you and see positives, and can understand why players do it.

              I am sure @DaGrubster likes you too.

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                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/super-rugby-takes-canes-stronger-without-savea-barrett-deal-win-win/

                Must say something about Holland's ability as a head coach that Laidlaw despite losing the experience of Dane Coles and arguably the best player in the world (Savea) has already taken the team beyond anything Holland could manage across 5 years in his first season.

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                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/super-rugby-takes-canes-stronger-without-savea-barrett-deal-win-win/

                  Must say something about Holland's ability as a head coach that Laidlaw despite losing the experience of Dane Coles and arguably the best player in the world (Savea) has already taken the team beyond anything Holland could manage across 5 years in his first season.

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                  @ruggabee Holland should never have been the head coach. He only got the gig because Plumtree pulled out right before the season kicked off so they didn’t have time to go through the correct recruitment process. So glad he’s gone, the Canes can now reach their potential without a coach hamstringing them with stupid selections.

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    @ruggabee Holland should never have been the head coach. He only got the gig because Plumtree pulled out right before the season kicked off so they didn’t have time to go through the correct recruitment process. So glad he’s gone, the Canes can now reach their potential without a coach hamstringing them with stupid selections.

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                    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

                    @ruggabee Holland should never have been the head coach. He only got the gig because Plumtree pulled out right before the season kicked off so they didn’t have time to go through the correct recruitment process. So glad he’s gone, the Canes can now reach their potential without a coach hamstringing them with stupid selections.

                    And Avan Lee was going to give Holland another 2 year contract extension if Razor hadn't taken him off your hands last year, Hurricanes fans must be feeling so thankful towards Razor at the moment.

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                    • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                      @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2024:

                      @DaGrubster I guessing he still get's AB money , but not Canes?
                      I like you and see positives, and can understand why players do it.

                      I am sure @DaGrubster likes you too.

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                      @Crazy-Horse

                      Danny and I go back 40 years!

                      We have had beers in NZ, London, Bologna, Italy

                      After all that, He better bloody like me! 😂

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                        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

                        @ruggabee Holland should never have been the head coach. He only got the gig because Plumtree pulled out right before the season kicked off so they didn’t have time to go through the correct recruitment process. So glad he’s gone, the Canes can now reach their potential without a coach hamstringing them with stupid selections.

                        And Avan Lee was going to give Holland another 2 year contract extension if Razor hadn't taken him off your hands last year, Hurricanes fans must be feeling so thankful towards Razor at the moment.

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                        @ruggabee said in Hurricanes 2024:

                        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

                        @ruggabee Holland should never have been the head coach. He only got the gig because Plumtree pulled out right before the season kicked off so they didn’t have time to go through the correct recruitment process. So glad he’s gone, the Canes can now reach their potential without a coach hamstringing them with stupid selections.

                        And Avan Lee was going to give Holland another 2 year contract extension if Razor hadn't taken him off your hands last year, Hurricanes fans must be feeling so thankful towards Razor at the moment.

                        I was very happy as soon as Razor wanted Holland. Then I almost exploded with happiness when Gibbes announced he was leaving too.

                        then Blackwell left ...

                        edit Blackwell's leaving is weird. Pleased he's gone but he just disappeared.

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                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                          @ruggabee Holland should never have been the head coach. He only got the gig because Plumtree pulled out right before the season kicked off so they didn’t have time to go through the correct recruitment process. So glad he’s gone, the Canes can now reach their potential without a coach hamstringing them with stupid selections.

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                          @Canes4life that whole saga with Boyd supposedly not wanting to leave but Plumtree getting the job was bizarre. Glad we're past that and the Holland years we had to endure afterwards.

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                          • WingerW Winger

                            @ruggabee said in Hurricanes 2024:

                            @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

                            @ruggabee Holland should never have been the head coach. He only got the gig because Plumtree pulled out right before the season kicked off so they didn’t have time to go through the correct recruitment process. So glad he’s gone, the Canes can now reach their potential without a coach hamstringing them with stupid selections.

                            And Avan Lee was going to give Holland another 2 year contract extension if Razor hadn't taken him off your hands last year, Hurricanes fans must be feeling so thankful towards Razor at the moment.

                            I was very happy as soon as Razor wanted Holland. Then I almost exploded with happiness when Gibbes announced he was leaving too.

                            then Blackwell left ...

                            edit Blackwell's leaving is weird. Pleased he's gone but he just disappeared.

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                            @Winger He is playing for Hanazono Kintetsu Liners in Japan's Division 1. At least there he will be one of the taller locks running round and has helped his team hold a solid 12th spot on the table. It must be noted that there are just the 12 teams commpeting!

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                            • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                              @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2024:

                              @DaGrubster I guessing he still get's AB money , but not Canes?
                              I like you and see positives, and can understand why players do it.

                              I am sure @DaGrubster likes you too.

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                              @Crazy-Horse said in Hurricanes 2024:

                              @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2024:

                              @DaGrubster I guessing he still get's AB money , but not Canes?
                              I like you and see positives, and can understand why players do it.

                              I am sure @DaGrubster likes you too.

                              Lol appear to have missed the word "am" as I am like you. But just out of interest, I am friends with DaGrubster anyway, have known him since he a kid (he played cricket and rugby with my son as well as being his best man), so perhaps your reply falls a little short mate!!! :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350247881/hurricanes-assistant-coach-tyler-blyendaal-joins-all-black-jordie-barrett-leinster

                                Hurricanes assistant coach Tyler Bleyendaal will link with Irish powerhouse club Leinster ahead of the 2024-25 season.
                                
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                                  Forgot to note this in here post match, but I went to the game against the Chiefs, and it stood out to me that Laidlaw basically stood at half way pre match, and watched the Chiefs in detail. For every 5 minutes of warm up he was observing the Chiefs as opposed to anything we were doing.

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                                  • DuluthD Duluth

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350247881/hurricanes-assistant-coach-tyler-blyendaal-joins-all-black-jordie-barrett-leinster

                                    Hurricanes assistant coach Tyler Bleyendaal will link with Irish powerhouse club Leinster ahead of the 2024-25 season.
                                    
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                                    @Duluth said in Hurricanes 2024:

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350247881/hurricanes-assistant-coach-tyler-blyendaal-joins-all-black-jordie-barrett-leinster

                                    Hurricanes assistant coach Tyler Bleyendaal will link with Irish powerhouse club Leinster ahead of the 2024-25 season.
                                    

                                    Do Canes fans think this will be a big loss? How is he regarded as a coach?

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                                      @Duluth said in Hurricanes 2024:

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350247881/hurricanes-assistant-coach-tyler-blyendaal-joins-all-black-jordie-barrett-leinster

                                      Hurricanes assistant coach Tyler Bleyendaal will link with Irish powerhouse club Leinster ahead of the 2024-25 season.
                                      

                                      Do Canes fans think this will be a big loss? How is he regarded as a coach?

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                                      @antipodean I think he was fairly inexperienced when he came into the Canes so not the biggest loss. Hopefully we can pick someone up that can advance our attacking play.

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                                        @Winger He is playing for Hanazono Kintetsu Liners in Japan's Division 1. At least there he will be one of the taller locks running round and has helped his team hold a solid 12th spot on the table. It must be noted that there are just the 12 teams commpeting!

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                                        @Higgins said in Hurricanes 2024:

                                        @Winger He is playing for Hanazono Kintetsu Liners in Japan's Division 1. At least there he will be one of the taller locks running round and has helped his team hold a solid 12th spot on the table. It must be noted that there are just the 12 teams competing!

                                        OK It's strange that 2 Canes coaches (Plumtree/ Gibbes) rated him so highly. Obviously, few other coaches do. But Blackwell always gave his best so it's not him to blame

                                        I see Caleb DELANY is showing as 1.97 / (1.98 on Wikipedia)
                                        Bio
                                        Caleb DELANY is a 24-year-old New Zealander rugby player standing at 1.97 m tall (6 ft 6 in) and weighing in at 115 kg (18 st 1.53 lb; 253.53 lb) , who currently plays for Hurricanes in New Zealand as back row.

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                                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                                          @Duluth said in Hurricanes 2024:

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350247881/hurricanes-assistant-coach-tyler-blyendaal-joins-all-black-jordie-barrett-leinster

                                          Hurricanes assistant coach Tyler Bleyendaal will link with Irish powerhouse club Leinster ahead of the 2024-25 season.
                                          

                                          Do Canes fans think this will be a big loss? How is he regarded as a coach?

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                                          @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

                                          @antipodean I think he was fairly inexperienced when he came into the Canes so not the biggest loss. Hopefully we can pick someone up that can advance our attacking play.

                                          Blyendaal has the potential to become a very good coach, you've got to remember he's only 33 & it was his first coaching gig, most are still playing at that age. he was a very intelligent flyhalf while playing over in Europe & was very unlucky not to get capped for Ireland under Schmidt, also captained the NZ U20 side of 2010, think he will do very well coaching in the URC, a competition where he thrived as a player at Munster.

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