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Bledisloe I (All Blacks team room bugged)

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  • Rancid SchnitzelR Offline
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    Rancid Schnitzel
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    #706

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="saulityvi" data-cid="607624" data-time="1471726573"><p>
    Fuck. Usually you can point out a a weakness or two in a game and yell for a change of personnel or coaching staff. Not this time. Only watched the first half and I am almost sure my club side today could have given a better run for their money. <br><br>
    There is absolutely nothing to lose from now on, so I would suggest maybe bringing those young guns, Hodge, Kerevi and Timani in to the 23 and dropping either of the hobbits from the back row to get some size in the side.<br><br>
    Who was the fucker who predicted the Wobs would win? :hi: :embarrassed:</p></blockquote>
    <br>
    That would be me. :embarrassed:<br><br>
    Understand that I live in Australia and all the talk has been of a quietly confident, well-prepared team with the overseas legends back to make them awesome. The game was also in Sydney and Cheika is the greatest coach ever.

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    • TimT Away
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      Tim
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      #707

      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="607662" data-time="1471735927">
      <div>
      <p>We're probably going to have Giteau, Toomua, and Horne out. Can't really throw away the rest of the team as there isn't much else, but a reshuffle is required.</p>
      </div>
      </blockquote>
      <p> </p>
      <p>Why don't they play AAC at Centre? He's better than Kurindrani, and is too old and slow for wing.</p>

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      • pukunuiP Offline
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        pukunui
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        #708

        One thing i noticed last night was the lack of kicking we did. Showed a real shift away from the use of the high ball and kicking out of our half that has worked really well recently. This game we just held the ball and got a march on. Must be a nightmare playing against a tram that can so effectively change up game plans. <br><br>
        I don't have too many concerns for international rugby. Its all a cycle. England seem to be on the up, Lions next year and by the next rwc Aust and Boks will have gone through some change but should be on the way back up. Argies seem to change week to week but super rugby should eventually improve their game.

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        • NTAN Offline
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          NTA
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          #709

          Yeah Tevita is one of the replacements. Changing the back row should also be done back to Fardy, Pocock, and McCalman/Timani

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          • jeggaJ Offline
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            #710

            I thought Leroy Houston was back in the picture?

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            • HigginsH Offline
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              #711

              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Mokey" data-cid="607521" data-time="1471694546">
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              <p> </p>
              <p>Aussies about 1 min of good all game.</p>
              </div>
              </blockquote>
              <p>Does their national anthem take that long?</p>

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              • NTAN Offline
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                NTA
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                #712

                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Higgins" data-cid="607704" data-time="1471741649"><p>Does their national anthem take that long?</p></blockquote>
                <br>
                If we sing both verses

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                • nostrildamusN Online
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                  nostrildamus
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                  #713

                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="607620" data-time="1471725213">
                  <div>
                  <p><img src="http://www.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/d/n/c/f/o/image.related.StuffSplash.300x400.1dn5e2.11ys6n.png/1471722036974.jpg" alt="1471722036974.jpg"></p>
                  <p> </p>
                  </div>
                  </blockquote>
                  <p>not just a great fend by Crotty but also a Vulcan neck pinch!</p>

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                  • NTAN Offline
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                    NTA
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #714

                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="607669" data-time="1471736771"><p>I thought Leroy Houston was back in the picture?</p></blockquote>
                    Think he's around. Not sure, after the returning-from-Europe performances here, that he will add anything.

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                      #715

                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="pukunui" data-cid="607666" data-time="1471736459">
                      <div>
                      <p>One thing i noticed last night was the lack of kicking we did. Showed a real shift away from the use of the high ball and kicking out of our half that has worked really well recently. This game we just held the ball and got a march on. Must be a nightmare playing against a tram that can so effectively change up game plans.<br><br>
                      I don't have too many concerns for international rugby. Its all a cycle. England seem to be on the up, Lions next year and by the next rwc Aust and Boks will have gone through some change but should be on the way back up. Argies seem to change week to week but super rugby should eventually improve their game.</p>
                      </div>
                      </blockquote>
                      <p>No point kicking when you're playing a team that can't tackle.</p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>All the late nights and early mornings following the Olympics this week took their toll last night and I ended up falling asleep early (a pathetic Saturday night), so I had to watch the game this morning instead. Christ. The ABs were monstrous but fuck, that was the softest Aussie team I've ever seen. They looked terrified of contact, clueless at the set piece and flat on attack. I felt embarrassed for them and the post-game coverage legitimately felt like a funeral. It really puts England's whitewash into perspective, I'd expect the Argies to whitewash them too if this keeps up.</p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>As for the ABs, Coles, BBBR, Read, Cane, Crockett, Whitelock, Barrett, Crotty, Naholo and Cruden were class.</p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>The downside to such a one sided game like that though, is that I don't really think any of the question marks were really answered. I'm still not sure about Fekitoa, TJP on the bench or Savea. It has made me wonder how Cruden might work at 12 though.</p>

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                      • taniwharugbyT Offline
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                        #716

                        <p>I wonder when we will hear the outcome of the 'espionage'?</p>

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                        • TimT Away
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                          #717

                          <a class="bbc_url" href="http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/83394663/Banged-up-All-Blacks-are-seeking-reinforcements-for-Saturdays-clash-with-Australia">Banged up All Blacks are seeking reinforcements for Saturday's clash with Australia</a><br><br>
                          Crotty had a head knock.

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                          • VirgilV Offline
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                            #718

                            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="607723" data-time="1471746963">
                            <div>
                            <p>I wonder when we will hear the outcome of the 'espionage'?</p>
                            </div>
                            </blockquote>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p>Bet the aussies hear about it first..</p>

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                              westcoastie
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #719

                              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Tim" data-cid="607727" data-time="1471749192">
                              <div>
                              <p><a class="bbc_url" href="http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/83394663/Banged-up-All-Blacks-are-seeking-reinforcements-for-Saturdays-clash-with-Australia">Banged up All Blacks are seeking reinforcements for Saturday's clash with Australia</a><br><br>
                              Crotty had a head knock.</p>
                              </div>
                              </blockquote>
                              <p>Call up Jordie Barrett to #12.</p>
                              <p>Beauden at #10, Jordie at #12. If the Aussies thought one Barrett was hard yakka, they'll shit the bed when they line-up against two. (seriously this might just happen in the future, maybe around 2018 EOYT)</p>

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                              • NTAN Offline
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                                NTA
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                                #720

                                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="nostrildamus" data-cid="607706" data-time="1471741967">
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                                <p>not just a great fend by Crotty but also a Vulcan neck pinch!</p>
                                </div>
                                </blockquote>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>Looks more like a throat rip! Nice 🙂 I heard DHP had a disappointing game :(</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>In any case, where to from here for the Wallabies?</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>Giteau: syndemosis so he's out for TRC. His French club won't be happy either because those things can heal bloody slowly.</p>
                                <p>Horne: dislocated shoulder - out for TRC.</p>
                                <p>Toomua: another concussion. Leicester must also be a bit nervous because he's had a few.</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>Other than that, the previously mentioned reshuffle. Personally, I think we need to abandon the Pooper for a while as a starting point, and see if playing a "traditional" back row is going to make a difference in terms of balance across the park.</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>Its not necessarily because of the reported lineout woes - fact is, Simmons is meant to be some kind of lineout god, but is clearly not. Someone over on GAGR made the (rather idiotic) statement that "3 jumpers never beats 4!" which is just rubbish - you can if you're good enough. We weren't.</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>1 Slipper<br>
                                2 Moore - last warning for captaincy. Improve or hand it over<br>
                                3 Kepu<br>
                                4 Douglas<br>
                                5 Simmons<br>
                                6 Fardy<br>
                                7 Pocock<br>
                                8 McCalman/Timani<br>
                                9 Genia<br>
                                10 Cooper<br>
                                11 Mitchell<br>
                                12 Kerevi<br>
                                13 AAC<br>
                                14 DHP<br>
                                15 Folau<br><br>
                                16 TPN<br>
                                17 Sio<br>
                                18 Alaalatoa (though I'd like Robertson to have a go, apparently the incumbent did alright)<br>
                                19 Coleman<br>
                                20 Timani/McMahon<br>
                                21 Hoopah<br>
                                22 Phipps<br>
                                23 Foley</p>

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                                • taniwharugbyT Offline
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                                  taniwharugby
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                                  #721

                                  <p>When Gits went down I thought of his boss....</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p><img src="http://latimesherocomplex.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/comic_book_guy_angst.jpg" alt="comic_book_guy_angst.jpg"></p>

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                                    pukunui
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                                    #722

                                    Is that it for Giteau and the Wallabies then? Surely their EOYT will be used to develop new guys and he will be another year past it next year.

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                                    • TimT Away
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                                      Tim
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                                      #723

                                      Rob Simmons is frankly rather shit. I've never seen why people rate him.

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                                      • NTAN Offline
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                                        NTA
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                                        #724

                                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="pukunui" data-cid="607758" data-time="1471758566">
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                                        <p>Is that it for Giteau and the Wallabies then? Surely their EOYT will be used to develop new guys and he will be another year past it next year.</p>
                                        </div>
                                        </blockquote>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>I think the Giteau rule has run its race. Really, it had after RWC2015 when we needed it due to emergency Link-sacking.</p>

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                                        • NTAN Offline
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                                          #725

                                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Tim" data-cid="607759" data-time="1471758611">
                                          <div>
                                          <p>Rob Simmons is frankly rather shit. I've never seen why people rate him.</p>
                                          </div>
                                          </blockquote>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>Yeah I didn't either until I had a couple of decent scrum cases to judge him on. He's actually not a bad TH lock. He's soft as a pensioner's turd around the park, though.</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>Its just that our scrum needed him at the time.</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>With the comments about him being critical to our lineout, and having just been fisted at the lineout.... well...</p>

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