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Blues 2024

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  • DuluthD Duluth

    @Nepia Yes. Of course it does

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    @Duluth said in Blues 2024:

    @Nepia Yes. Of course it does

    I can't be arsed having this shitfight but if I'm in Auckland for a weekend and only have the time/money for one game and the Warriors have covered halfway tickets for $30 and the Blues have covered halfway tickets for $58 then I'm likely going to go the Warriors regardless of the facilities.

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      A one off is different than turning up every week

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        A one off is different than turning up every week

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        @Duluth said in Blues 2024:

        A one off is different than turning up every week

        Well the Warriors are having bumper crowds every week and the Blues aren't - even if the tickets aren't strictly "like for like" so I think it's probably worthing investigating.

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          @Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Waratahs:

          Not to forget from the copyrighted "greatest sporting comp in the world" that we must always compare NZ rugby with

          Crowds have more to do with the competition as a whole. There's only been 3 EP games this year and the games against Aussies sides haven't attracted interest. A game against a full strength NZ side should bump the average up a lot this weekend

          I would argue the lack of positivity from the media is a big factor too. I don't dislike RL but I find the constant fluffing annoying when compared to the endless negativity around everything rugby. When the game had positive coverage a couple of years ago (BB signing etc) crowds were consistently in the mid 20k, multiple times above 30k and even got 45k for a match

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          • DuluthD Duluth

            @Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Waratahs:

            Not to forget from the copyrighted "greatest sporting comp in the world" that we must always compare NZ rugby with

            Crowds have more to do with the competition as a whole. There's only been 3 EP games this year and the games against Aussies sides haven't attracted interest. A game against a full strength NZ side should bump the average up a lot this weekend

            I would argue the lack of positivity from the media is a big factor too. I don't dislike RL but I find the constant fluffing annoying when compared to the endless negativity around everything rugby. When the game had positive coverage a couple of years ago (BB signing etc) crowds were consistently in the mid 20k, multiple times above 30k and even got 45k for a match

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            @Duluth said in Blues 2024:

            @Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Waratahs:

            Not to forget from the copyrighted "greatest sporting comp in the world" that we must always compare NZ rugby with

            Crowds have more to do with the competition as a whole. There's only been 3 EP games this year and the games against Aussies sides haven't attracted interest. A game against a full strength NZ side should bump the average up a lot this weekend

            I would argue the lack of positivity from the media is a big factor too. I don't dislike RL but I find the constant fluffing annoying when compared to the endless negativity around everything rugby. When the game had positive coverage a couple of years ago (BB signing etc) crowds were consistently in the mid 20k, multiple times above 30k and even got 45k for a match

            The fluffing of the Warriors (and that saying I hate) might push me back to my almost hate watching of the Warriors of a few years back. Especially as they're not backing up the hype train on the field so far this year 🙂

            But, I don't get why the NZ media are so down on rugby, I mean I understand why Devlin is the Warriors biggest cheerleader, that's his shtick now and fit's with his media home, but I don't know about the rest of it.

            The recently released viewing numbers should be some positive to balance out all the negative yet they're not making too much of a ripple.

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              More details on Suafoa’s season

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350268725/super-rugby-pacific-blues-forward-cameron-suafoa-opens-emotional-cancer-battle

              … he would have to undergo six weeks of radiation treatment (every weekday from February 26 to April 9) as an extra precaution.
              
              What followed almost defied belief. He continued to train, and even appeared in two Super Rugby Pacific matches through his radiation treatment (starting against the Hurricanes in round 3, and then coming off the bench the next week against the Waratahs in Sydney), until fatigue and ongoing fitness challenges finally got the better of him.
              
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                In terms of TV audience, the Rugby World Cup comes third after the Soccer World Cup and the Olympic Games. I doubt that the RL will ever reach this level. Rugby's loss of audience is only regional (Australia and New Zealand). In Europe and Japan, stadium attendances and TV audiences are breaking records. The Leinster - Northampton semi-final drew 80,000 spectators on Saturday.

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                  An interview with Laghlan McWhannell
                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350270429/blues-lock-laghlan-mcwhannell-finally-gets-super-rugby-chance-after-shocking-injury

                  Good to see some better rugby coverage recently

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                  • C cgrant

                    In terms of TV audience, the Rugby World Cup comes third after the Soccer World Cup and the Olympic Games. I doubt that the RL will ever reach this level. Rugby's loss of audience is only regional (Australia and New Zealand). In Europe and Japan, stadium attendances and TV audiences are breaking records. The Leinster - Northampton semi-final drew 80,000 spectators on Saturday.

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                    @cgrant said in Blues 2024:

                    In terms of TV audience, the Rugby World Cup comes third after the Soccer World Cup and the Olympic Games. I doubt that the RL will ever reach this level. Rugby's loss of audience is only regional (Australia and New Zealand). In Europe and Japan, stadium attendances and TV audiences are breaking records. The Leinster - Northampton semi-final drew 80,000 spectators on Saturday.

                    well, you know, more like 11th, after 3 soccer tournaments, two different olympics, Wimbledon, the Superbowl, and the NBA finals.

                    but your point about the European club game is super valid, and links in to @Duluth point about the competition. It's got history, and most importantly prestige. Also fans and media don't seem to spend their entire time either badmouthing the comp or talking about it in terms of international hopes.

                    For all that though, is there any domestic rugby comp in the world that is sustainable? English clubs are falling over themselves to go under. French clubs appear to be backed up by owners. Same in Japan. Are the players just paid too damn much for what they actually bring in? (at club level i mean).

                    Sorry, just realised this is the Blues thread.

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                      Sotutu signed with the Blues until the end of the 2026 season

                      https://www.blues.rugby/blues-rugby-news/hoskins-re-signing

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                        @cgrant said in Blues 2024:

                        In terms of TV audience, the Rugby World Cup comes third after the Soccer World Cup and the Olympic Games. I doubt that the RL will ever reach this level. Rugby's loss of audience is only regional (Australia and New Zealand). In Europe and Japan, stadium attendances and TV audiences are breaking records. The Leinster - Northampton semi-final drew 80,000 spectators on Saturday.

                        well, you know, more like 11th, after 3 soccer tournaments, two different olympics, Wimbledon, the Superbowl, and the NBA finals.

                        but your point about the European club game is super valid, and links in to @Duluth point about the competition. It's got history, and most importantly prestige. Also fans and media don't seem to spend their entire time either badmouthing the comp or talking about it in terms of international hopes.

                        For all that though, is there any domestic rugby comp in the world that is sustainable? English clubs are falling over themselves to go under. French clubs appear to be backed up by owners. Same in Japan. Are the players just paid too damn much for what they actually bring in? (at club level i mean).

                        Sorry, just realised this is the Blues thread.

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                        @mariner4life said in Blues 2024:

                        @cgrant said in Blues 2024:

                        In terms of TV audience, the Rugby World Cup comes third after the Soccer World Cup and the Olympic Games. I doubt that the RL will ever reach this level. Rugby's loss of audience is only regional (Australia and New Zealand). In Europe and Japan, stadium attendances and TV audiences are breaking records. The Leinster - Northampton semi-final drew 80,000 spectators on Saturday.

                        well, you know, more like 11th, after 3 soccer tournaments, two different olympics, Wimbledon, the Superbowl, and the NBA finals.

                        but your point about the European club game is super valid, and links in to @Duluth point about the competition. It's got history, and most importantly prestige. Also fans and media don't seem to spend their entire time either badmouthing the comp or talking about it in terms of international hopes.

                        For all that though, is there any domestic rugby comp in the world that is sustainable? English clubs are falling over themselves to go under. French clubs appear to be backed up by owners. Same in Japan. Are the players just paid too damn much for what they actually bring in? (at club level i mean).

                        Sorry, just realised this is the Blues thread.

                        French clubs are doing fine and not relying sugar daddies, their TV contact is big 550 million US for for years

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                          In terms of attendances, the last RWC in France attracted some 3,7 millions people in the stadiums.

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                            Toyota Verblitz did not make the semi finals so BB should be finished in Japan. Might be perfect timing with Sullivan likely gone for the rest of the comp. As good as Coles and Plummer have been depth and experience are always good.

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                              Toyota Verblitz did not make the semi finals so BB should be finished in Japan. Might be perfect timing with Sullivan likely gone for the rest of the comp. As good as Coles and Plummer have been depth and experience are always good.

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                              @Daffy-Jaffy

                              From that interview last week, players like BB can’t play in the finals and would require a dispensation to play in the regular season. He specifically referred to Barrett if I recall.

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                                Sullivan's injury didn't look good. His previous knee injury kept him out for 6 weeks.

                                Assuming he's gone for a few weeks at least, what would your top Blues backline look like?

                                Where does Perofeta fit? Does Plummer stay at 10 or shift to 12 etc?

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                                  Sullivan's injury didn't look good. His previous knee injury kept him out for 6 weeks.

                                  Assuming he's gone for a few weeks at least, what would your top Blues backline look like?

                                  Where does Perofeta fit? Does Plummer stay at 10 or shift to 12 etc?

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                                  @Duluth I think you have to stick with Heem at 12. Maybe move Perofeta to 15 and have another kicking option.

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                                    @Duluth I think you have to stick with Heem at 12. Maybe move Perofeta to 15 and have another kicking option.

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                                    @Tim

                                    ..and Plummer is going well at 10

                                    Do you break up the 9/10 partnership when Christie returns? Another close call

                                    Bench: A Halfback, AJ Lam, Cole Forbes

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                                      @Tim

                                      ..and Plummer is going well at 10

                                      Do you break up the 9/10 partnership when Christie returns? Another close call

                                      Bench: A Halfback, AJ Lam, Cole Forbes

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                                      @Duluth said in Blues 2024:

                                      Do you break up the 9/10 partnership when Christie returns? Another close call

                                      I suspect it will happen but it would be a mistake in my view. Funaki's error rate is miles lower than Chrstie's and he suits the way the Blues play.

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                                          An interview with Forbes:
                                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/emerging-blues-star-credits-scotland-stint-for-growing-through-youthful-impatience/

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