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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @Canes4life see I can understand this rule for club footy, where some super rugby player comes back into their club team for a game or 2, but shouldnt be allowed to play the finals, but in this case, Super is the pinnacle of NZ rugby (outside International) it really makes little difference IMO, there is an argument it actually isnt fair on some of his own team mates that he leap frogs whoever has been holding the fort.

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    @taniwharugby that would be the worst part of it all. If he takes the spot of someone that has played all year then that would suck. The Blues don’t need Beauden, they are at the top for a reason and should back the players that have got them to this point. Infact, having Beauden in the mix all of a sudden could derail the Blues, especially if he reverts to kicking the ball away with almost every touch like he has done for the last five years.

    To keep this in context I would be annoyed if the Canes brought Ardie in aswell. Imagine if he took the spot of Lakai or Iose who have done all the work this year, it would be bullshit.

    Those players chose to play in Japan this year. They can sit in the stands and let the players who have been in NZ go to work.

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    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

      @george33 said in Blues 2024:

      @Canes4life Razor wants

      Didn’t realise Razor made the rules. The Blues can bring in a replacement for round robin play but not the playoffs.

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      @Canes4life he can play out rest comp, if selected if course,

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        @Canes4life he can play out rest comp, if selected if course,

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        @george33 no he can’t because he hasn’t been given the green light. It’s all blind speculation.

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        • DuluthD Duluth

          @Machpants said in Blues 2024:

          @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

          @Machpants I find these articles from Rugby Pass quite funny. They were calling the Canes team arguably the best ever the other day. The Blues, Canes, Brumbies and Chiefs can all win it on their day atm. Best to write these articles once the season is done I would say. Blues defs in the top seat atm though.

          Well it depends on the author, they all have different opinions. I very much rate Nick's analysis

          Also it's an example of the article content being better than the title someone gave it.

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          @Duluth said in Blues 2024:

          @Machpants said in Blues 2024:

          @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

          @Machpants I find these articles from Rugby Pass quite funny. They were calling the Canes team arguably the best ever the other day. The Blues, Canes, Brumbies and Chiefs can all win it on their day atm. Best to write these articles once the season is done I would say. Blues defs in the top seat atm though.

          Well it depends on the author, they all have different opinions. I very much rate Nick's analysis

          Also it's an example of the article content being better than the title someone gave it.

          Yeah The Roar is weird with that, you submit an article and the Click Bait Editor chooses the title, even with pros like Nick

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            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350287896/blues-rapt-have-beauden-barrett-back-no-word-yet-super-rugby-pacific-clearance

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              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350287896/blues-rapt-have-beauden-barrett-back-no-word-yet-super-rugby-pacific-clearance

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              @Duluth man if I was a player at the Blues and played all year and then was all of sudden replaced by Beauden, that would stink. I’d look to move franchise.

              I would get it if they had a massive injury crisis, but they don’t. Quite poor from the Blues for even considering it tbh. Just my opinion though.

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350287896/blues-rapt-have-beauden-barrett-back-no-word-yet-super-rugby-pacific-clearance

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                @Duluth words out

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                  https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/why-auckland-blue-is-primed-to-take-over-from-canterbury-red-and-black/

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                  @Machpants said in Blues 2024:

                  https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/why-auckland-blue-is-primed-to-take-over-from-canterbury-red-and-black/

                  The writer would have more credibility if the article was written before a game had been played this season.

                  Not Nick Bishop's best work.

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    @Duluth man if I was a player at the Blues and played all year and then was all of sudden replaced by Beauden, that would stink. I’d look to move franchise.

                    I would get it if they had a massive injury crisis, but they don’t. Quite poor from the Blues for even considering it tbh. Just my opinion though.

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                    @Canes4life

                    A little dramatic. No one has been replaced.

                    As for injuries, we had 4 genuine options to play 10 in the squad. Two are injured and one is returning from injury this week. Last week we had Evans covering ten.. he would be our 5th choice ten

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      @Duluth man if I was a player at the Blues and played all year and then was all of sudden replaced by Beauden, that would stink. I’d look to move franchise.

                      I would get it if they had a massive injury crisis, but they don’t. Quite poor from the Blues for even considering it tbh. Just my opinion though.

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                      @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

                      @Duluth man if I was a player at the Blues and played all year and then was all of sudden replaced by Beauden, that would stink. I’d look to move franchise.

                      I would get it if they had a massive injury crisis, but they don’t. Quite poor from the Blues for even considering it tbh. Just my opinion though.

                      Admit you're still sore he moved North...

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                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                        @Duluth man if I was a player at the Blues and played all year and then was all of sudden replaced by Beauden, that would stink. I’d look to move franchise.

                        I would get it if they had a massive injury crisis, but they don’t. Quite poor from the Blues for even considering it tbh. Just my opinion though.

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                        @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

                        Quite poor from the Blues for even considering it tbh. Just my opinion though.

                        I don't agree with your comment here

                        Zarn is injured. Perofeta is named to play but hasn't played since injury. Cashmore is injured.

                        I don't want Beauden to return to play this season for the Blues but I understand Blues enquiring. Afoa played for Crusaders last year late.

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                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                          @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

                          @Duluth man if I was a player at the Blues and played all year and then was all of sudden replaced by Beauden, that would stink. I’d look to move franchise.

                          I would get it if they had a massive injury crisis, but they don’t. Quite poor from the Blues for even considering it tbh. Just my opinion though.

                          Admit you're still sore he moved North...

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                          @antipodean not at all, I was at the time obviously but Beaudy is a little over-hyped these days. The media make it sound like he’s in the prime of his career, he’s isn’t, which is why he reverts to kicking the ball away all the time because he doesn’t have the speed to get him out of trouble like he used to.

                          I would laugh so hard if the Blues pushed to get him into the 23 and then he F’d it up for them in the final. He’s cracked under pressure a lot in recent years, so you’re more than welcome to him. I think it would just be a big middle finger to the rest of the teams in the comp.

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

                            Quite poor from the Blues for even considering it tbh. Just my opinion though.

                            I don't agree with your comment here

                            Zarn is injured. Perofeta is named to play but hasn't played since injury. Cashmore is injured.

                            I don't want Beauden to return to play this season for the Blues but I understand Blues enquiring. Afoa played for Crusaders last year late.

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                            @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2024:

                            @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

                            Quite poor from the Blues for even considering it tbh. Just my opinion though.

                            I don't agree with your comment here

                            Zarn is injured. Perofeta is named to play but hasn't played since injury. Cashmore is injured.

                            I don't want Beauden to return to play this season for the Blues but I understand Blues enquiring. Afoa played for Crusaders last year late.

                            I’ve got no problem him playing in the round robin as injury cover but he should have no right to play in the playoffs, would be a complete joke.

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                              Cane is training with the Chiefs, so...

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                                Cane is training with the Chiefs, so...

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                                @Bovidae are they looking to play him at all or..?

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                                  When Will Jordan was out for the season he was replaced by Welsh international Fullback Johnny McNichol. Zarn Sullivan is out for the season so why should Barrett not be able to replace him. What is the difference other than the Calendar? Are we saying that the Blues should be penalized by playing out the season with a depleted squad? Maybe if the Blues were in our usual 11th place no one would care if Barrett was in the squad or not.

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                                  • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                    When Will Jordan was out for the season he was replaced by Welsh international Fullback Johnny McNichol. Zarn Sullivan is out for the season so why should Barrett not be able to replace him. What is the difference other than the Calendar? Are we saying that the Blues should be penalized by playing out the season with a depleted squad? Maybe if the Blues were in our usual 11th place no one would care if Barrett was in the squad or not.

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                                    @Daffy-Jaffy I think season ending injuries are full replacement rather than a short term one if someone is due back, even if late in the season.

                                    I dont think him playing any games should be relevant, he is still contracted to NZR isnt he?

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                                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                      @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2024:

                                      @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

                                      Quite poor from the Blues for even considering it tbh. Just my opinion though.

                                      I don't agree with your comment here

                                      Zarn is injured. Perofeta is named to play but hasn't played since injury. Cashmore is injured.

                                      I don't want Beauden to return to play this season for the Blues but I understand Blues enquiring. Afoa played for Crusaders last year late.

                                      I’ve got no problem him playing in the round robin as injury cover but he should have no right to play in the playoffs, would be a complete joke.

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                                      @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

                                      @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2024:

                                      @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

                                      Quite poor from the Blues for even considering it tbh. Just my opinion though.

                                      I don't agree with your comment here

                                      Zarn is injured. Perofeta is named to play but hasn't played since injury. Cashmore is injured.

                                      I don't want Beauden to return to play this season for the Blues but I understand Blues enquiring. Afoa played for Crusaders last year late.

                                      I’ve got no problem him playing in the round robin as injury cover but he should have no right to play in the playoffs, would be a complete joke.

                                      Thanks. I tend to agree.

                                      I think it's moot anyway as was mentioned earlier the chances of approval for playoffs are extremely thin.

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                                        I thought if you had multiple injuries that was part of the purpose of the wider training group? Shouldn’t the blues be promoting from there before putting Beauden straight back into the full squad? He was the one who went to Japan at the end day.

                                        When James Lowe got injured at the Highlanders they promoted Hurley from the wider training squad. That’s how it should be handled. If the blues wider training squad players are injured then I can understand the choice.

                                        If he’s cleared to play and also play finals it would just open a huge can of worms that could be easily avoided if it was made clear you promote from your wider squad…

                                        I’m sure we all feel different about it but that’s just my opinion anyway. As you were…

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                                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                          @Bovidae are they looking to play him at all or..?

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                                          And the 32-year-old openside flanker confirmed as soon as he returned from Japan, where he played the 2024 season on sabbatical, he would be training with the Chiefs as “a practice body” over the latter stages of their Super Rugby Pacific campaign to get himself back up to full fitness.

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