All Blacks vs England I
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its scary the idea that the bench is just the second best person in a position is still so prevalent....how effective it can be if you treat them as their own specialist positions has been known for many years
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@Chris-B My guess is that the 23 will be almost entirely players who featured in the World Cup in France and that the new coaching team are going for evolution rather than revolution.
@sparky said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Chris-B My guess is that the 23 will be almost entirely players who featured in the World Cup in France and that the new coaching team are going for evolution rather than revolution.
That would make most sense to me, they have no time to try anything too new
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have basically spent the last 5 years tearing my hair out watching england, no obvious future talent, no obvious tactics, no obvious commitment to the grunt, let alone any ambition to put people through gaps.
Bloody Borthwick has given me a sniff of optimism in the last 3 games, we have some genuine prospective talent around, Martin and Itoje in the second row, our back row looks class with Earl in form, our halfback is starting to look like he can play rugby, we have a centre combination, our wingers are quick, our full back has changed from a lumbering chap who's good under the high ball to a guy who two years ago i wouldn't have picked for a local club side but has put on some weight and has improved out of sight.
Playing in NZ will be a fascinating test for them, i hope they enjoy it, i hope they turn up. I have no real knowledge of the new ABs in the squad and don't know how much of a reset this really is, but playing in NZ is always bloody hard.
As they say, its the hope that kills you
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Genuinely looking forward to this one. This game is right up there at an interest level comparable to the 2023 WC.
Razor and co have nowhere to hide, this is it.
If we lose, this place will erupt into flame, currently smouldering at the moment. So many cross winds.
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Genuinely looking forward to this one. This game is right up there at an interest level comparable to the 2023 WC.
Razor and co have nowhere to hide, this is it.
If we lose, this place will erupt into flame, currently smouldering at the moment. So many cross winds.
Huge.@BerniesCorner he would've had a lot more leeway if he'd selected the team I faxed to my cousin to hand to him at his local cafe.
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You jest but it probably happens
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have basically spent the last 5 years tearing my hair out watching england, no obvious future talent, no obvious tactics, no obvious commitment to the grunt, let alone any ambition to put people through gaps.
Bloody Borthwick has given me a sniff of optimism in the last 3 games, we have some genuine prospective talent around, Martin and Itoje in the second row, our back row looks class with Earl in form, our halfback is starting to look like he can play rugby, we have a centre combination, our wingers are quick, our full back has changed from a lumbering chap who's good under the high ball to a guy who two years ago i wouldn't have picked for a local club side but has put on some weight and has improved out of sight.
Playing in NZ will be a fascinating test for them, i hope they enjoy it, i hope they turn up. I have no real knowledge of the new ABs in the squad and don't know how much of a reset this really is, but playing in NZ is always bloody hard.
As they say, its the hope that kills you
@Dodge said in All Blacks vs England I:
have basically spent the last 5 years tearing my hair out watching england, no obvious future talent, no obvious tactics, no obvious commitment to the grunt, let alone any ambition to put people through gaps.
Bloody Borthwick has given me a sniff of optimism in the last 3 games, we have some genuine prospective talent around, Martin and Itoje in the second row, our back row looks class with Earl in form, our halfback is starting to look like he can play rugby, we have a centre combination, our wingers are quick, our full back has changed from a lumbering chap who's good under the high ball to a guy who two years ago i wouldn't have picked for a local club side but has put on some weight and has improved out of sight.
Playing in NZ will be a fascinating test for them, i hope they enjoy it, i hope they turn up. I have no real knowledge of the new ABs in the squad and don't know how much of a reset this really is, but playing in NZ is always bloody hard.
As they say, its the hope that kills you
I think you'll recognize most of the key players from the RWC.
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Genuinely looking forward to this one. This game is right up there at an interest level comparable to the 2023 WC.
Razor and co have nowhere to hide, this is it.
If we lose, this place will erupt into flame, currently smouldering at the moment. So many cross winds.
Huge.@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England I:
Genuinely looking forward to this one. This game is right up there at an interest level comparable to the 2023 WC.
Razor and co have nowhere to hide, this is it.
If we lose, this place will erupt into flame, currently smouldering at the moment. So many cross winds.
Huge.A loss in the 1st Test would be an embarrassment after all the hype, that's for sure. Personally wouldn't read too much into it, but the memes posted will be something to see...
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Certainly going to answer a lot of questions.
Hoping for a Ratima-DMac combo. -
No Aaron Smith, Mo’unga, Retallick, Whitelock, Sam Cane, that’s about 540 test matches of experience goneski. We got this Razor…
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No Aaron Smith, Mo’unga, Retallick, Whitelock, Sam Cane, that’s about 540 test matches of experience goneski. We got this Razor…
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:
No Aaron Smith, Mo’unga, Retallick, Whitelock, Sam Cane, that’s about 540 test matches of experience goneski. We got this Razor…
Oh sure just pretend Frizzel doesn't exist
And Coles...
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:
No Aaron Smith, Mo’unga, Retallick, Whitelock, Sam Cane, that’s about 540 test matches of experience goneski. We got this Razor…
Oh sure just pretend Frizzel doesn't exist
And Coles...
@Bones said in All Blacks vs England I:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:
No Aaron Smith, Mo’unga, Retallick, Whitelock, Sam Cane, that’s about 540 test matches of experience goneski. We got this Razor…
Oh sure just pretend Frizzel doesn't exist
And Coles...
They were going to be part of
excuseperfectly reasonable explanation #2 -
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:
No Aaron Smith, Mo’unga, Retallick, Whitelock, Sam Cane, that’s about 540 test matches of experience goneski. We got this Razor…
Oh sure just pretend Frizzel doesn't exist
And Coles...
@Bones said in All Blacks vs England I:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:
No Aaron Smith, Mo’unga, Retallick, Whitelock, Sam Cane, that’s about 540 test matches of experience goneski. We got this Razor…
Oh sure just pretend Frizzel doesn't exist
And Coles...
Who?
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs England I:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:
No Aaron Smith, Mo’unga, Retallick, Whitelock, Sam Cane, that’s about 540 test matches of experience goneski. We got this Razor…
Oh sure just pretend Frizzel doesn't exist
And Coles...
Who?
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs England I:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:
No Aaron Smith, Mo’unga, Retallick, Whitelock, Sam Cane, that’s about 540 test matches of experience goneski. We got this Razor…
Oh sure just pretend Frizzel doesn't exist
And Coles...
Who?
Frizzel-like a suitcase but a little bit more violent.
Coles-like a supermarket but a little bit more dirty. -
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England I:
Genuinely looking forward to this one. This game is right up there at an interest level comparable to the 2023 WC.
Razor and co have nowhere to hide, this is it.
If we lose, this place will erupt into flame, currently smouldering at the moment. So many cross winds.
Huge.A loss in the 1st Test would be an embarrassment after all the hype, that's for sure. Personally wouldn't read too much into it, but the memes posted will be something to see...
Yes, you are right it would be.
Especially under the roof in Dunners. Which should give ideal conditions for us.
#bringbackFoz
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Yes, you are right it would be.
Especially under the roof in Dunners. Which should give ideal conditions for us.
#bringbackFoz
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs England I:
Yes, you are right it would be.
Especially under the roof in Dunners. Which should give ideal conditions for us.
#bringbackFoz
If we're gonna lose it's probbly going to be the 1st Test. Personally, I think the RC & EOYT are more important.
