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All Blacks vs England I

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  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks vs England I:

    MacDonald talking about the backs:

    https://www.waikatotimes.co.nz/sport/350325071/all-blacks-coaches-how-fit-damian-mckenzie-beauden-barrett-and-will-jordan

    “Consistency-wise, I think [Proctor] would have been one of the hardest working midfielders. He’s a very accurate defender and he’s an effective attacker"

    When I read that I kept thinking so why didn't they select A J Lam over still recovering from injury Havili?

    I agree here, if Proctor is nursing his ribs then surely you bring in someone like Lam who can cover 12 and 13, instead of Havili who just covers 12 and has injury issues of his own.

    Again it’s a conservative selection which have been holding the ABs back for a few years now.

    Can’t we just select the best players ffs. Bring back the Probables vs Possibles game to sort some of these selections out.

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    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

    it’s a conservative selection

    I'm not even sure it's conservative if you're selecting someone who's hardly played, under an injury cloud and never exactly set the world on fire anyway. I could understand if it was someone crucial like Savea, DMac or Jordie.

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    • BonesB Bones

      @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

      it’s a conservative selection

      I'm not even sure it's conservative if you're selecting someone who's hardly played, under an injury cloud and never exactly set the world on fire anyway. I could understand if it was someone crucial like Savea, DMac or Jordie.

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      @Bones said in All Blacks vs England I:

      @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

      it’s a conservative selection

      I'm not even sure it's conservative if you're selecting someone who's hardly played, under an injury cloud and never exactly set the world on fire anyway. I could understand if it was someone crucial like Savea, DMac or Jordie.

      Maybe/maybe not but it’s a selection based on familiarity, most of those AB coaches would have worked with Havili for a long time so instead of going with an in form player like Lam who’s been destroying defences lately, they’ve based their selection on Havili’s history which to me is the wrong move. Proof will be in the pudding I guess.

      If injuries strike and we are forced to start all of Christie, Perofeta, Havili and an aging BBarrett in the same backline, teams like South Africa will be shaking in their boots.

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      • nzzpN nzzp

        @nostrildamus I rated Havili at 12 when he came in - but he disappeared and got found out against bigger teams (SA).

        If you play him against Fiji, he'll look a million dollars. But you know what you'll get against Ireland, SA, France or England on a good day. And it won't look pretty.

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        @nzzp He isn't physical enough to be a test 12. He can play there at the level below, but he didn't enjoy the contact side of things against bigger sides as you pointed out.

        He always looked like a fullback playing out of position with others always being preferred at test and domestic level.

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          The times I have seen Lam play 12 he has done a good job making his tackles and running hard and straight, often close to the ruck, probably exactly how the Blues want him to play. I have yet to see such things as intricate backline moves revolving around him and passing that puts people into space. Given he has only recently started playing 12 I can understand why the selectors may not have picked him this time around.

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          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

            No Aaron Smith, Mo’unga, Retallick, Whitelock, Sam Cane, that’s about 540 test matches of experience goneski. We got this Razor…

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            @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:

            No Aaron Smith, Mo’unga, Retallick, Whitelock, Sam Cane, that’s about 540 test matches of experience goneski. We got this Razor…

            Pretty able replacements though.
            Barrett/Patty T - Whitelock/Retallick not a lot in it.
            Paps - Cane not a lot in it.
            DMac - Mo'unga not a lot in it.

            Missing A Smiths pass and brain.

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              Isn’t Havili there so he can reinforce the Razor message inside the sheds?

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              • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:

                No Aaron Smith, Mo’unga, Retallick, Whitelock, Sam Cane, that’s about 540 test matches of experience goneski. We got this Razor…

                Pretty able replacements though.
                Barrett/Patty T - Whitelock/Retallick not a lot in it.
                Paps - Cane not a lot in it.
                DMac - Mo'unga not a lot in it.

                Missing A Smiths pass and brain.

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                @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England I:

                Barrett/Patty T - Whitelock/Retallick not a lot in it.

                Sorry what?

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England I:

                  Barrett/Patty T - Whitelock/Retallick not a lot in it.

                  Sorry what?

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                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

                  @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England I:

                  Barrett/Patty T - Whitelock/Retallick not a lot in it.

                  Sorry what?

                  It’s too early to be drinking

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                  • MN5M MN5

                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

                    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England I:

                    Barrett/Patty T - Whitelock/Retallick not a lot in it.

                    Sorry what?

                    It’s too early to be drinking

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                    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:

                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

                    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England I:

                    Barrett/Patty T - Whitelock/Retallick not a lot in it.

                    Sorry what?

                    It’s too early to be drinking

                    Wash your mouth out

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                    • MN5M MN5

                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

                      @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England I:

                      Barrett/Patty T - Whitelock/Retallick not a lot in it.

                      Sorry what?

                      It’s too early to be drinking

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                      @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:

                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

                      @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England I:

                      Barrett/Patty T - Whitelock/Retallick not a lot in it.

                      Sorry what?

                      It’s too early to be drinking

                      Who stole MN5's password?

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                      • M Machpants

                        @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:

                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

                        @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England I:

                        Barrett/Patty T - Whitelock/Retallick not a lot in it.

                        Sorry what?

                        It’s too early to be drinking

                        Wash your mouth out

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                        @Machpants said in All Blacks vs England I:

                        @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:

                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

                        @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England I:

                        Barrett/Patty T - Whitelock/Retallick not a lot in it.

                        Sorry what?

                        It’s too early to be drinking

                        Wash your mouth out

                        With beer.

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                            Isn’t Havili there so he can reinforce the Razor message inside the sheds?

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                            @pakman said in All Blacks vs England I:

                            Isn’t Havili there so he can reinforce the Razor message inside the sheds?

                            Leading the 3rd chorus of "We Walk Together"?

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                            • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

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                              @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks vs England I:

                              Omar at hooker, Talea on the wing and AN Other in 23. I prolly won't watch anymore of this guy's videos, but thanks!

                              To save anyone else him waffling on about Ellis park, he starts the selection waffle at 3 minutes and carries on for another 6.

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                Omar at hooker, Talea on the wing and AN Other in 23. I prolly won't watch anymore of this guy's videos, but thanks!

                                To save anyone else him waffling on about Ellis park, he starts the selection waffle at 3 minutes and carries on for another 6.

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                                @Bones said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                Omar at hooker, Talea on the wing and AN Other in 23. I prolly won't watch anymore of this guy's videos, but thanks!

                                To save anyone else him waffling on about Ellis park, he starts the selection waffle at 3 minutes and carries on for another 6.

                                Apparently Ellis Park is “ABsolutely amazing”….it’s a “Mecca of a stadium”

                                Yeah, this twit is irritating the fuck out of me. Time to switch off

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                                • MN5M MN5

                                  @Bones said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                  @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                  Omar at hooker, Talea on the wing and AN Other in 23. I prolly won't watch anymore of this guy's videos, but thanks!

                                  To save anyone else him waffling on about Ellis park, he starts the selection waffle at 3 minutes and carries on for another 6.

                                  Apparently Ellis Park is “ABsolutely amazing”….it’s a “Mecca of a stadium”

                                  Yeah, this twit is irritating the fuck out of me. Time to switch off

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                                  DaGrubster
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                                  @MN5

                                  He love South African rugby. Can’t stop going on about it!

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                                    Sounding like Ethan has inside running at 6: https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350326964/all-blacks-ethan-blackadder-answer-blindside-flanker

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                                      The only worthwhile thing out of that Knowler article was

                                      a79ee7da-02a7-4a89-a580-7ec9c94a891a-image.jpeg

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                                        3 and a half more days of outright guesswork to go then aye?

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                                          Someone needs to head down to NZCIS and see which players are training. The squad doesn't go to Dunners until Wed.

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