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All Blacks vs England I

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    must have been a dude who looks like Jacobson, but isn't Jacobson, continually folding fluffybunnies for the Chiefs.

    (this is not to be taken as an endorsement for the selection of Jacobson)

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      fuck, now you made me read the "article" and i am dumber for it.

      The little wank over Frizzell was the first giveaway that this was going to be complete garbage.

      Anyone else look at that AB starting team he picked and thought "gee that's a bit ordinary" (miss you John Drake)? Perofeta at the back. 3 openside-sized players in the loosies. The hope that this is the year Patty T turns Super form in to test form? The hope that Cody Taylor is immediately up to speed. A quarter of the run on side hasn't played any rugby for like 5 weeks?

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        the idea of "can play" in multiple positions is starting to get my goat, anyone can play anywhere...the question is how well they play in different positions....do we think that people like Blackadder and Jacobson are the 2nd or 3rd best players in all three positions....if not, then they should stop going on about it

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        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

          the idea of "can play" in multiple positions is starting to get my goat, anyone can play anywhere...the question is how well they play in different positions....do we think that people like Blackadder and Jacobson are the 2nd or 3rd best players in all three positions....if not, then they should stop going on about it

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          @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs England I:

          the idea of "can play" in multiple positions is starting to get my goat, anyone can play anywhere...the question is how well they play in different positions....do we think that people like Blackadder and Jacobson are the 2nd or 3rd best players in all three positions....if not, then they should stop going on about it

          Jack of all trades, master of none

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            fuck, now you made me read the "article" and i am dumber for it.

            The little wank over Frizzell was the first giveaway that this was going to be complete garbage.

            Anyone else look at that AB starting team he picked and thought "gee that's a bit ordinary" (miss you John Drake)? Perofeta at the back. 3 openside-sized players in the loosies. The hope that this is the year Patty T turns Super form in to test form? The hope that Cody Taylor is immediately up to speed. A quarter of the run on side hasn't played any rugby for like 5 weeks?

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            @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

            A quarter of the run on side hasn't played any rugby for like 5 weeks?

            A particular worry of mine. Not so worried about size, DP isn't small. I guess the lineout could be a concern.

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            • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

              @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

              A quarter of the run on side hasn't played any rugby for like 5 weeks?

              A particular worry of mine. Not so worried about size, DP isn't small. I guess the lineout could be a concern.

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              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs England I:

              I guess the lineout could be a concern.

              Scotty and either Pat/Va'ai

              then a back three of Ardie+his hair, DP and Ethan.

              That is an invitation to attack our lineout. Codie's the best thrower of our three hookers, but the whole lineout looks a bit short.

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              • nzzpN nzzp

                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs England I:

                I guess the lineout could be a concern.

                Scotty and either Pat/Va'ai

                then a back three of Ardie+his hair, DP and Ethan.

                That is an invitation to attack our lineout. Codie's the best thrower of our three hookers, but the whole lineout looks a bit short.

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                @nzzp said in All Blacks vs England I:

                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs England I:

                I guess the lineout could be a concern.

                Scotty and either Pat/Va'ai

                then a back three of Ardie+his hair, DP and Ethan.

                That is an invitation to attack our lineout. Codie's the best thrower of our three hookers, but the whole lineout looks a bit short.

                Ardie doesn't attack the rucks that much, so relies on a hard working, effective 6 and 7s so he can perform. DP has that covered at 7, but while EB is busy, he's not very effective. So if he starts, not only does our lineout suffer, it will drag Ardie into the rucks to compensate and blunt his point of difference.

                Another season of an unbalanced backrow probably.

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                  A shortish lineout is okay providing the lifting and timing is good.

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                    At around 25 minutes, Robertson reitertates why he didn't pick Sotutu.
                    They seem to have doubts around his physicality in defense, tackling for long periods of time, and workrate off the ball.

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                    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                      "Jacobson, like Blackadder, can play all three positions in the back row but when it comes to rugged, all-out venom in defence he is shaded by Blackadder."

                      Venom? Does EB bite them or spit on them? Or maybe he has a fetching, wall-climbing costume?

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                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs England I:

                      "Jacobson, like Blackadder, can play all three positions in the back row but when it comes to rugged, all-out venom in defence he is shaded by Blackadder."

                      Venom? Does EB bite them or spit on them? Or maybe he has a fetching, wall-climbing costume?

                      I've never ever ever ever ever (saying it as Andre 3000 from Outkast in my head) thought of Blackadder as a rugged all out venom defender.

                      If you asked me which loose forwards are punishing hitters Blackadder would never have had entered my thought process.

                      Do even the Cantabs on here think that's one of his strengths?

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                      • F Frank

                        At around 25 minutes, Robertson reitertates why he didn't pick Sotutu.
                        They seem to have doubts around his physicality in defense, tackling for long periods of time, and workrate off the ball.

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                        @Frank said in All Blacks vs England I:

                        At around 25 minutes, Robertson reitertates why he didn't pick Sotutu.
                        They seem to have doubts around his physicality in defense, tackling for long periods of time, and workrate off the ball.

                        amazing how well the Blues forwards did then given they only selected Paps (in the loosies). (My opinion, Hoskins and Dalton shared some 7/8 roles).
                        And this Ardie Savea bloke, sounds like great captain material?!

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                          https://twitter.com/paulcullystuff/status/1807537867373318169

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                            @Bovidae my spies tell me that Williams was starting at loosehead with Taylor at hooker. Newell on the tighthead side. Captain at lock, not sure who the other lock was though. Blackadder at 6,7 and possibly even 8.

                            Oh yeah, almost forgot, Havili running the cutter.

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                            @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:

                            other lock

                            Darry?

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                              https://twitter.com/paulcullystuff/status/1807537867373318169

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                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

                              https://twitter.com/paulcullystuff/status/1807537867373318169

                              you'd have to think it wont take long for those to go......

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                                Isn't that like a third of the stadium?

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                                  Isn't that like a third of the stadium?

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                                  @mariner4life its a third of what Otago "needs"...but this is NZ...so we have a stadium that can hold a quarter of the cities population

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                                    Isn't that like a third of the stadium?

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                                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                    Isn't that like a third of the stadium?

                                    600? Not 6,000?

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                                    • NepiaN Nepia

                                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                      "Jacobson, like Blackadder, can play all three positions in the back row but when it comes to rugged, all-out venom in defence he is shaded by Blackadder."

                                      Venom? Does EB bite them or spit on them? Or maybe he has a fetching, wall-climbing costume?

                                      I've never ever ever ever ever (saying it as Andre 3000 from Outkast in my head) thought of Blackadder as a rugged all out venom defender.

                                      If you asked me which loose forwards are punishing hitters Blackadder would never have had entered my thought process.

                                      Do even the Cantabs on here think that's one of his strengths?

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                                      @Nepia said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                      "Jacobson, like Blackadder, can play all three positions in the back row but when it comes to rugged, all-out venom in defence he is shaded by Blackadder."

                                      Venom? Does EB bite them or spit on them? Or maybe he has a fetching, wall-climbing costume?

                                      I've never ever ever ever ever (saying it as Andre 3000 from Outkast in my head) thought of Blackadder as a rugged all out venom defender.

                                      If you asked me which loose forwards are punishing hitters Blackadder would never have had entered my thought process.

                                      Do even the Cantabs on here think that's one of his strengths?

                                      I'm no Cantab, but I think he's got some good attributes, one of which is hitting reasonably hard. Not in the same way as Cane/Jacobson who are crunchers. He's quick off the deck and very good at maintaining a defensive line. Also throws himself at the line far harder than those guys. Sjhouldn't be selected off fuck-all rugby, but I can see the reasons.
                                      Jacobson is a tackler, like Cane - but gives away a lot of penalties, and like Cane offers little ball in hand.

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                                        On Sotutu, I am kinda sick of people saying "both sides of the ball" to criticise him. If they really mean both sides, then how about criticising, i dunno, everyone fucking else for not being able to do what he does on the attacking side of the ball?

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                                          On Sotutu, I am kinda sick of people saying "both sides of the ball" to criticise him. If they really mean both sides, then how about criticising, i dunno, everyone fucking else for not being able to do what he does on the attacking side of the ball?

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                                          @reprobate said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                          On Sotutu, I am kinda sick of people saying "both sides of the ball" to criticise him. If they really mean both sides, then how about criticising, i dunno, everyone fucking else for not being able to do what he does on the attacking side of the ball?

                                          Reminds me of when Egghead tried to explain how Christian Cullen didn't run with the ball in his hands in the correct grip 🙄

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