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Victor Meldrew

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:

Ginger McShitpass.

Chapeau!

Kiwiwomble

@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England I:

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

Pretty sure South Africa started naming a lot earlier.

Maybe wrong, but so do some of the 6N teams.

i was just on another forum and some of the english fans were very surprised it was so early....but also happy with the selections

pakman

@Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs England I:

@Chris i understand in house things will be named....this just seems early to offically name it

Yeah I am not sure why England released it early it does seem a bit early to put it out there.

It's become something of a thing in NH. Gatland seemed to start it. Boks sometimes do. England jumped on bandwagon this year.

pakman

@Tim said in All Blacks vs England I:

@mariner4life Surprisingly, he's from Wellsford.

You can take the boy out of Wellsford, but...

pakman

@antipodean Fin Baxter is a very handy LH. Coles has often struggled with short and capable LHs.

nostrildamus

@voodoo said in All Blacks vs England I:

Wingers don’t have to defend much so maybe they’ll call up Sotutu

but does his hairstyle look good on both sides of the ball?

Nevorian

@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks vs England I:

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/england-reshuffle-the-front-row-in-in-team-to-face-all-blacks/

Joe Marler (Harlequins, 94 caps) – vice-captain

Jamie George (Saracens, 91 caps) – captain

Will Stuart (Bath Rugby, 39 caps)

Maro Itoje (Saracens, 82 caps) – vice-captain

George Martin (Leicester Tigers, 13 caps)

Chandler Cunningham-South (Harlequins, 5 caps)

Sam Underhill (Bath Rugby, 36 caps)

Ben Earl (Saracens, 31 caps) – vice-captain

Alex Mitchell (Northampton Saints, 16 caps)

Marcus Smith (Harlequins, 33 caps)

Tommy Freeman (Northampton Saints, 9 caps)

Ollie Lawrence (Bath Rugby, 25 caps)

Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs, 63 caps) – vice-captain

Immanuel Feyi-Waboso (Exeter Chiefs, 4 caps)

George Furbank (Northampton Saints, 10 caps)

Reserves

Theo Dan (Saracens, 13 caps)

Fin Baxter (Harlequins, uncapped)

Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers, 113 caps)

Alex Coles (Northampton Saints, 5 caps)

Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, 51 caps)

Ben Spencer (Bath Rugby, 5 caps)

Fin Smith (Northampton Saints, 3 caps)

Ollie Sleightholme (Northampton Saints, uncapped)

So many vice-captains

game_film

Pointless Itoje being a vice captain at this point. He’s obviously not the leadership type otherwise he’d have been Captain long ago. Nothing wrong with that.

Victor Meldrew

@game_film said in All Blacks vs England I:

Pointless Itoje being a vice captain at this point. He’s obviously not the leadership type otherwise he’d have been Captain long ago. Nothing wrong with that.

He's becoming a different player under Borthwick. Much more mature.

KiwiMurph

Really looking forward to watching this young gun Cunningham-South play at 6 for England.

Huge connection to NZ having played for Silverdale club, went to both Hamilton Boy's and Westlake Boy's.

Cunningham-South, who grew up in New Zealand, is a versatile forward who is comfortable in the second row, blindside flanker or number 8.

He joined the London Irish Academy in February 2022.

Chandler has played for North Harbour under-18s and trained with NZ Warriors in Rugby League.

Chandler also had outings for Canterbury RFC under-19s and Lincoln University in Christchurch before heading over to the United Kingdom.

kiwiinmelb

No leaks on the team yet ?

Canerbry

@Nevorian They don't have any vice-captains on the bench, so could lose their pattern in the second half.

Frank

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

Really looking forward to watching this young gun Cunningham-South play at 6 for England.

Huge connection to NZ having played for Silverdale club, went to both Hamilton Boy's and Westlake Boy's.
Cunningham-South, who grew up in New Zealand, is a versatile forward who is comfortable in the second row, blindside flanker or number 8.

He joined the London Irish Academy in February 2022.

Chandler has played for North Harbour under-18s and trained with NZ Warriors in Rugby League.

Chandler also had outings for Canterbury RFC under-19s and Lincoln University in Christchurch before heading over to the United Kingdom.

Let's hope he has a mare.

Dodge

@darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs England I:

@sparky said in All Blacks vs England I:

@Chris That's a really good team.

forward pack is strong, the backline is really average.

best backline with the most potential we've put out for years IMO. Doesn't mean they're great yet but at least its clear what we're trying to do and there's some balance and pace

Bones

Finau better be fucking selected to start now that I've seen the who's at ten.

pakman

Wonder if all three locks are fit? Other than that, biggest question for me is which 6.5 is on bench, and who goes to 11 if Caleb crocked.
Ofa and Newell would be my bench props.

Catogrande

@Dodge

Agreed. I'm as happy as I can be with that selection, including the bench. Front row is a concern but probably the best we can put out at the moment. Save perhaps Dan for George but then we would miss his leadership, so fair enough.

As good as it can be but will it be good enough? Difficult to say with NZ being something of an unknown quantity atm but I can't bring myself to see anything other than a 2-0 loss. I'll be happy though and count the tour a success if we put in two good performances and show some attacking intent and shape.

MN5

@Bones said in All Blacks vs England I:

Finau better be fucking selected to start now that I've seen the who's at ten.

He needs to work on his venom which is something Blackadder has loads of apparently

pakman

@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:

@Bones said in All Blacks vs England I:

Finau better be fucking selected to start now that I've seen the who's at ten.

He needs to work on his venom which is something Blackadder has loads of apparently

Is his venom black?

MN5

@pakman said in All Blacks vs England I:

@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:

@Bones said in All Blacks vs England I:

Finau better be fucking selected to start now that I've seen the who's at ten.

He needs to work on his venom which is something Blackadder has loads of apparently

Is his venom black?

Yes. Red too.

The Silver Fern

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