All Blacks vs England I
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs England I:
England won't be in fear of this team. And the 'nice boy' jersey
But its likely the best and safest option to start the first test. And if everyone clicks and plays at their best, esp TJ and Damian, they could have a VG start. However ...
@Winger said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs England I:
England won't be in fear of this team. And the 'nice boy' jersey
But its likely the best and safest option to start the first test. And if everyone clicks and plays at their best, esp TJ and Damian, they could have a VG start. However ...
whats does "nice boy" mean?
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It'd be interesting to know who wasn't available due to injury.
Perofeta at 15 is a big call, not great form this year and hasn't shown a lot of mental toughness when the going gets tough in the past. His form in the playoffs must have just got him over the line there. I really like him as a player, very gifted, if they can get the top 2 inches right he could do well. I certainly wouldn't have picked him to start though.
At least the loose forward mix looks balanced, I was worried they were going to start Blackadder at 6.
A bit disappointed to see both TJP and Christie in the 23, was hoping one or the other.
Otherwise not too much to complain about, we still have a very strong side despite the retirements etc
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:
I'm pleased Perofeta will start in the sense that at least it's something interesting and different to watch out for.
Not being the most avid Super rugby watcher can anyone tell me what he brings to the table at his best ?
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:
I'm pleased Perofeta will start in the sense that at least it's something interesting and different to watch out for.
Not being the most avid Super rugby watcher can anyone tell me what he brings to the table at his best ?
Organises the counter attack well, puts people in space. Can be used as a second play maker. He has something deceptive with his centre of balance that allows him to get through tackles that he shouldn't.. for a small guy he makes a lot of line breaks like that
However we haven't seen much of that this year because of injuries and his form hasn't been the best
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:
I'm pleased Perofeta will start in the sense that at least it's something interesting and different to watch out for.
Not being the most avid Super rugby watcher can anyone tell me what he brings to the table at his best ?
He did play well in the Super Rugby playoffs. He makes good decisions on counter attack, sees space well and has good speed and footwork to set up breaks for himself and others. High ball work was good in the playoffs at 15.
He also offers another kicking option and has a good variety of kicks.
Can operate as a second pivot option coming in at first receiver.
That's what I would say him at his best is.
Appreciate the feedback.
Looks very frail to me, hopefully this isn’t the case
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:
I'm pleased Perofeta will start in the sense that at least it's something interesting and different to watch out for.
Not being the most avid Super rugby watcher can anyone tell me what he brings to the table at his best ?
He did play well in the Super Rugby playoffs. He makes good decisions on counter attack, sees space well and has good speed and footwork to set up breaks for himself and others. High ball work was good in the playoffs at 15.
He also offers another kicking option and has a good variety of kicks.
Can operate as a second pivot option coming in at first receiver.
That's what I would say him at his best is.
Appreciate the feedback.
Looks very frail to me, hopefully this isn’t the case
Yeah that would be the downside. Physicality, he tends to be flakey and he
hasn't impressed in his admittedly very limited test minutes so far. -
Fairly predictable team given the squad and limited preparation time.
Looking forward to seeing the evolution of our play.
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Ratima on a dry track behind that pack partnered with DMac woulda been my go.
TJ and Christie don't do much for me.
I like the 15, for the most part, but, when Jordan & Roigard return it will be significantly better.
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@Winger said in All Blacks vs England I:
or a choir boy
This is why I didn’t want to go to St Pats college
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Winger said in All Blacks vs England I:
or a choir boy
This is why I didn’t want to go to St Pats college
You'd have to wait until he retires from AB duty..(and gets a sainthood .. they're rare in Auckland)
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Conservative squad apart from 6 and 15... Hope locks are aok!
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I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.
Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs England I:
England won't be in fear of this team. And the 'nice boy' jersey
But its likely the best and safest option to start the first test. And if everyone clicks and plays at their best, esp TJ and Damian, they could have a VG start. However ...
@Winger said in All Blacks vs England I:
England won't be in fear of this team. And the 'nice boy' jersey
That jersey is a psychological masterstroke for England.
It has an Eton collar - so if things are going badly for us, we only need say in lordly tones, "I say old chap, how dare you tackle me. Naff off" - and the English will lie down before us.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.
Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.
@Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.
Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.
Pessimistic. His worst effort was a penalty for being a step late. Home crowd should influence the ref to penalise Marcus.
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@Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.
Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.
Pessimistic. His worst effort was a penalty for being a step late. Home crowd should influence the ref to penalise Marcus.
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.
Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.
Pessimistic. His worst effort was a penalty for being a step late. Home crowd should influence the ref to penalise Marcus.
It is coming
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:
I'm pleased Perofeta will start in the sense that at least it's something interesting and different to watch out for.
Not being the most avid Super rugby watcher can anyone tell me what he brings to the table at his best ?
Organises the counter attack well, puts people in space. Can be used as a second play maker. He has something deceptive with his centre of balance that allows him to get through tackles that he shouldn't.. for a small guy he makes a lot of line breaks like that
However we haven't seen much of that this year because of injuries and his form hasn't been the best
@Duluth said in All Blacks vs England I:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:
I'm pleased Perofeta will start in the sense that at least it's something interesting and different to watch out for.
Not being the most avid Super rugby watcher can anyone tell me what he brings to the table at his best ?
Organises the counter attack well, puts people in space. Can be used as a second play maker. He has something deceptive with his centre of balance that allows him to get through tackles that he shouldn't.. for a small guy he makes a lot of line breaks like that
However we haven't seen much of that this year because of injuries and his form hasn't been the best
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
Fairly predictable team given the squad and limited preparation time.
Looking forward to seeing the evolution of our play.
agreed, if what @Duluth says is true it could be a nice change, maybe more of a structured counter actually working to connect with options rather than the "up the guts" approach
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.
Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.
@Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.
Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.
Yeah bring back Frizell and his amazing disciplinary record... or the captain's amazing disciplinary record....
Oh wait....
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@Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.
Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.
Yeah bring back Frizell and his amazing disciplinary record... or the captain's amazing disciplinary record....
Oh wait....
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.
Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.
Yeah bring back Frizell and his amazing disciplinary record... or the captain's amazing disciplinary record....
Oh wait....
Ok then 2 red cards
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Finau does like to fold backs in half, and there is always risk associated with that if he gets it slightly wrong. And in the modern game, with fans always baying for cards, particularly if it's big man vs little man, it's going to end in yellow or red sooner rather than later. Cards have been a huge issue for the ABs recently so I am hoping this current coaching group can get that part right across the board, not just with Finau.
