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Highlanders 2025

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  • S SouthernMann

    I'd just saying the 'announcement', or a lack there of Finn Hurley is a bit of an oversight. It has been clearly signaled by members of the team's management, that it just has potentially been forgotten to have been officially done publicly.

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    @SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:

    I'd just saying the 'announcement', or a lack there of Finn Hurley is a bit of an oversight. It has been clearly signaled by members of the team's management, that it just has potentially been forgotten to have been officially done publicly.

    Just seems a little odd though? Last year for example, they announced all those young fellas twice, including Cam Millar who had already been upgraded into the squad for 2023.

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      for all we know his plans may have changed, if someone in Japan spotted him and if the Highlanders only see him as a squad guy covering 15/10 then he might have asked to leave before it was announced, we just dont know until they say one way or the other

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        this place just isn't the same since the Magpie Massive chucked their toys out of the cot and left because their union has a drug problem.

        Now guys like Lowe and havili are left undefended

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          @Kiwiwomble said in Highlanders 2025:

          @frugby JJ's historic style is strong front up stuff....not really a delicate touch approach

          Correct. My tip is you'll see Josh Whaanga tried at 12 by Otago with a view of him playing their for the Highlanders. He could be your Richard Buckman type.

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          @frugby said in Highlanders 2025:

          @Kiwiwomble said in Highlanders 2025:

          @frugby JJ's historic style is strong front up stuff....not really a delicate touch approach

          Correct. My tip is you'll see Josh Whaanga tried at 12 by Otago with a view of him playing their for the Highlanders. He could be your Richard Buckman type.

          He's 10cm taller and at the moment 10kg heavier. He will probably end up around 100 - 105kg. Most similar in build to a Jordie Barrett or a SBW. A long way from a Buckman.

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            this place just isn't the same since the Magpie Massive chucked their toys out of the cot and left because their union has a drug problem.

            Now guys like Lowe and havili are left undefended

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            @mariner4life He'd be struggling with his Crusaders having a bad season and the Blues winning it would have hurt him just as much, along with Akira Ioane lifting the trophy haha.

            Imagine the fights he'd have on here if he read the Jonah Lowe criticism? He'd probably have a meltdown too at the Landers choosing to sign Rhys Patchell ahead of his other idol Lincoln McClutchie.

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            • S SouthernMann

              @frugby said in Highlanders 2025:

              @Kiwiwomble said in Highlanders 2025:

              @frugby JJ's historic style is strong front up stuff....not really a delicate touch approach

              Correct. My tip is you'll see Josh Whaanga tried at 12 by Otago with a view of him playing their for the Highlanders. He could be your Richard Buckman type.

              He's 10cm taller and at the moment 10kg heavier. He will probably end up around 100 - 105kg. Most similar in build to a Jordie Barrett or a SBW. A long way from a Buckman.

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              @SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:

              @frugby said in Highlanders 2025:

              @Kiwiwomble said in Highlanders 2025:

              @frugby JJ's historic style is strong front up stuff....not really a delicate touch approach

              Correct. My tip is you'll see Josh Whaanga tried at 12 by Otago with a view of him playing their for the Highlanders. He could be your Richard Buckman type.

              He's 10cm taller and at the moment 10kg heavier. He will probably end up around 100 - 105kg. Most similar in build to a Jordie Barrett or a SBW. A long way from a Buckman.

              Just because he has a different body type doesn't mean he can't fill the same role of being a hard tackling, hard running workhorse.

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                @SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:

                @frugby said in Highlanders 2025:

                @Kiwiwomble said in Highlanders 2025:

                @frugby JJ's historic style is strong front up stuff....not really a delicate touch approach

                Correct. My tip is you'll see Josh Whaanga tried at 12 by Otago with a view of him playing their for the Highlanders. He could be your Richard Buckman type.

                He's 10cm taller and at the moment 10kg heavier. He will probably end up around 100 - 105kg. Most similar in build to a Jordie Barrett or a SBW. A long way from a Buckman.

                Just because he has a different body type doesn't mean he can't fill the same role of being a hard tackling, hard running workhorse.

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                @frugby just doesn't match how I've seen him play. With that body composition, he is an offloading target, a guy to run off. Buckman tended to run off players, instead of being a provider. Buckman
                was guy who ran at holes. Instesd of busting through tackles. With Buckman was the smaller guy who took advantage of the space provided by the bigger backline members. Whaanga will be one of the bigger backline members. Whaanga is also a kick-pass target, who can go over the top of defenders in the air. His height is probably his biggest advantage. Very different styles and strengths.

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                  Ideally Hurley is replaced asap with a bigger, better, more level headed, less prone to stupid kicks, can make sensible decisions kind of fullback. Suspect he will be a 1-2 season wonder

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                    Christ. It was Hurleys first year in professional footy and the lad has only just turned 21. Yes, size isn’t on his side but I’ll cut the young fella some slack, he batted well above his weight this season and you can see potential.

                    He’s not a starter for us next season so you could be doing a lot worse if you’re looking for a squad player in the outside backs. Some players from the past for example that we’ve had to deal with. Mosese Dawai, Kuridrani, Nabura(flying boot to the face), even Vereniki Tikoisolomone was called in a few years back.

                    He’s an upgrade for us at the back end of the roster that might get a game here and there. Looking forward to seeing what he can do for Otago.

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                      Christ. It was Hurleys first year in professional footy and the lad has only just turned 21. Yes, size isn’t on his side but I’ll cut the young fella some slack, he batted well above his weight this season and you can see potential.

                      He’s not a starter for us next season so you could be doing a lot worse if you’re looking for a squad player in the outside backs. Some players from the past for example that we’ve had to deal with. Mosese Dawai, Kuridrani, Nabura(flying boot to the face), even Vereniki Tikoisolomone was called in a few years back.

                      He’s an upgrade for us at the back end of the roster that might get a game here and there. Looking forward to seeing what he can do for Otago.

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                      @Landers92 said in Highlanders 2025:

                      Christ. It was Hurleys first year in professional footy and the lad has only just turned 21. Yes, size isn’t on his size but I’ll cut the young fella some slack, he batted well above his weight this season and you can see potential.

                      He’s not a starter for us next season so you could be doing a lot worse if you’re looking for a squad player in the outside backs. Some players from the past for example that we’ve had to deal with. Mosese Dawai, Kuridrani, Nabura(flying boot to the face), even Vereniki Tikoisolomone was called in a few years back.

                      He’s an upgrade for us at the back end of the roster that might get a game here and there. Looking forward to seeing what he can do for Otago.

                      Nailed it. Hurley has some bloody good skills. He is quick, has a strong passing game, is showing great improvement under the high ball and his defence has come on leaps and bounds. The half he played marking Caleb Clarke was a top display. He was all over Clarke. He got himself a bit lost with the ball and defensively with Otago last year. I'd certainly expect this year to be a much improved campaign. There are a lot of people who back him. I like the idea of him coming off the bench for the Landers next year, if that is an impact option they are looking at.

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                        @Landers92 said in Highlanders 2025:

                        Christ. It was Hurleys first year in professional footy and the lad has only just turned 21. Yes, size isn’t on his size but I’ll cut the young fella some slack, he batted well above his weight this season and you can see potential.

                        He’s not a starter for us next season so you could be doing a lot worse if you’re looking for a squad player in the outside backs. Some players from the past for example that we’ve had to deal with. Mosese Dawai, Kuridrani, Nabura(flying boot to the face), even Vereniki Tikoisolomone was called in a few years back.

                        He’s an upgrade for us at the back end of the roster that might get a game here and there. Looking forward to seeing what he can do for Otago.

                        Nailed it. Hurley has some bloody good skills. He is quick, has a strong passing game, is showing great improvement under the high ball and his defence has come on leaps and bounds. The half he played marking Caleb Clarke was a top display. He was all over Clarke. He got himself a bit lost with the ball and defensively with Otago last year. I'd certainly expect this year to be a much improved campaign. There are a lot of people who back him. I like the idea of him coming off the bench for the Landers next year, if that is an impact option they are looking at.

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                        @SouthernMann he doesn’t make sensible decisions, a lot of his decision making is incredibly poor, even at a club level.

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                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                          @Landers92 its kind of like me coming in and saying "i dont care what you guys say smoking is bad for you!".....yeah, we know, cool story

                          i just went back to the Highlanders 2023 thread, people were all happy enough when we signed lowe, dont believe anyone on here thought he would be as poor as he has turned out to be

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                          @FakatavaAllBlack said in Highlanders 2023:

                          @Kiwiwomble anyways back to Lowe he'll be in our starting backline wearing 14, the other Jona at 11, now just need to sign a certain twin from wellington to wear 13 & things on paper will look much better than the season just gone.

                          Great pickup.

                          If the Chiefs haven't signed two really fucking good wingers, I'm going to be well pissed off.

                          Lowe was our best wing this year by a mile.

                          @Tim said in Highlanders 2023:

                          @Kiwiwomble Good signing. Has been sharp for the Chiefs. I wonder if they have signed a wing?

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                          @Kiwiwomble said in Highlanders 2025:

                          dont believe anyone on here thought he would be as poor as he has turned out to be

                          Ahem

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                            this place just isn't the same since the Magpie Massive chucked their toys out of the cot and left because their union has a drug problem.

                            Now guys like Lowe and havili are left undefended

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                            @mariner4life said in Highlanders 2025:

                            Now guys like Lowe and havili are left undefended

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                              Hearing M Whaanga is signed for 2025, and J Whaanga being viewed as a wing option at this stage...

                              So if Hurley is signed that would leave us with no backs spot remaining for next year.

                              I suppose it is possible they banked on Lowe leaving as well as CGB (RIP), but then Lowe got injured, so it is now only CGB leaving?

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                                im not a huge Matt Whaanga fan, has Journeyman written allover him

                                im getting lost, whats the deal with Tele'a? hes back next year?

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                                  Hearing M Whaanga is signed for 2025, and J Whaanga being viewed as a wing option at this stage...

                                  So if Hurley is signed that would leave us with no backs spot remaining for next year.

                                  I suppose it is possible they banked on Lowe leaving as well as CGB (RIP), but then Lowe got injured, so it is now only CGB leaving?

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                                  @frugby said in Highlanders 2025:

                                  Hearing M Whaanga is signed for 2025, and J Whaanga being viewed as a wing option at this stage...

                                  So if Hurley is signed that would leave us with no backs spot remaining for next year.

                                  I suppose it is possible they banked on Lowe leaving as well as CGB (RIP), but then Lowe got injured, so it is now only CGB leaving?

                                  Wouldn't be surprised if Whaanga is an injury replacement for Lowe. I'd doubt Lowe is training properly until at least Feb. Between the two Whaanga boys, they cover his squad role.

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                                    @frugby said in Highlanders 2025:

                                    Hearing M Whaanga is signed for 2025, and J Whaanga being viewed as a wing option at this stage...

                                    So if Hurley is signed that would leave us with no backs spot remaining for next year.

                                    I suppose it is possible they banked on Lowe leaving as well as CGB (RIP), but then Lowe got injured, so it is now only CGB leaving?

                                    Wouldn't be surprised if Whaanga is an injury replacement for Lowe. I'd doubt Lowe is training properly until at least Feb. Between the two Whaanga boys, they cover his squad role.

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                                    @SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:

                                    @frugby said in Highlanders 2025:

                                    Hearing M Whaanga is signed for 2025, and J Whaanga being viewed as a wing option at this stage...

                                    So if Hurley is signed that would leave us with no backs spot remaining for next year.

                                    I suppose it is possible they banked on Lowe leaving as well as CGB (RIP), but then Lowe got injured, so it is now only CGB leaving?

                                    Wouldn't be surprised if Whaanga is an injury replacement for Lowe. I'd doubt Lowe is training properly until at least Feb. Between the two Whaanga boys, they cover his squad role.

                                    M Whaanga on a two year deal so not an injury replacement. J Whaanga was signed end of 2023/start of 2024 timeline, so he isn't an injury replacement either.

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                                      @SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:

                                      @frugby said in Highlanders 2025:

                                      Hearing M Whaanga is signed for 2025, and J Whaanga being viewed as a wing option at this stage...

                                      So if Hurley is signed that would leave us with no backs spot remaining for next year.

                                      I suppose it is possible they banked on Lowe leaving as well as CGB (RIP), but then Lowe got injured, so it is now only CGB leaving?

                                      Wouldn't be surprised if Whaanga is an injury replacement for Lowe. I'd doubt Lowe is training properly until at least Feb. Between the two Whaanga boys, they cover his squad role.

                                      M Whaanga on a two year deal so not an injury replacement. J Whaanga was signed end of 2023/start of 2024 timeline, so he isn't an injury replacement either.

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                                      @frugby said in Highlanders 2025:

                                      @SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:

                                      @frugby said in Highlanders 2025:

                                      Hearing M Whaanga is signed for 2025, and J Whaanga being viewed as a wing option at this stage...

                                      So if Hurley is signed that would leave us with no backs spot remaining for next year.

                                      I suppose it is possible they banked on Lowe leaving as well as CGB (RIP), but then Lowe got injured, so it is now only CGB leaving?

                                      Wouldn't be surprised if Whaanga is an injury replacement for Lowe. I'd doubt Lowe is training properly until at least Feb. Between the two Whaanga boys, they cover his squad role.

                                      M Whaanga on a two year deal so not an injury replacement. J Whaanga was signed end of 2023/start of 2024 timeline, so he isn't an injury replacement either.

                                      Yes sir. Certainly wasn't saying Josh Whaanga. Was just throwing around theories. I still wouldn't be surprised if Jonah Lowe needs cover going into the season..

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                                        Coaching changes to be confirmed at 3 PM. @frugby talked about it further up in the thread

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                                          so....4mins away?

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