All Blacks vs England I

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@Tordah said in All Blacks vs England I:

bring back foster

And we would lose by 30

If Smith had kicked one of two sitters we would have lost.

Can understand the rust, but any game plan was non-existent and the breakdown work was really, really poor. Robertson might need some time to get his feet under the table, but that was a poor first time out. Expected a bit more tactics-wise.

On the plus side, it might just calm down some of the over-blown hype around the man.

ACT Crusader

@African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs England I:

Good to get a win to start the year. We're never at our best to start the season off and will be much better for the run. It's tough coming together so soon after the end of the domestic season against a tough physical England side who gave it to us.

Man Razor looked like a nervous wreck up there. Welcome to international rugby.

Well said bro.

Both teams did some pretty good stuff out there but it was a defensive style of game.

Beaudie’s kicking in behind was a good tactic to try and turn the English around. DMac’s kicking was far easier for England to manage.

Great to get a win and congrats to the ABs. Razor and the new coaching staff will be pleased that we fought it out, but will no doubt be looking forward to showing where there is opportunity to improve.

Tim

Robertson might want to ask Cotter for some advice about robust, test-level rugby tactics.

Winger

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:

Tele'a has not had a good night - his stepping hasn't created room for himself or anyone else. His lack of pace has been a problem too.

He is a number of players that will be lucky if they start next week

DMac started off ok but was a bit shit in the 2nd half
ChristIe can get the ball away quickly but why doesn't he do it more often
Reiko showed once again he isn't a centre

The backline needs a lot of adjusting. Clarke would be one option as the current back three is unbalanced.

Personally I would prefer Plummer at 1st even if he is quite limited but hes not even in the team.

chimoaus

A few massive stuff ups by us though. 3 or 4 lineouts lost. Finlay not using it when told and McKenzie running out of time. Those 6 moments really put us back under pressure and we lose momentum.

nostrildamus

Our lineout could have done with a lineout specialist, or maybe they thought Finau would have it covered. Our backline was scratchy.

nostrildamus

@Winger said in All Blacks vs England I:

Personally I would prefer Plummer at 1st even if he is quite limited but hes not even in the team.

Yeh this is the sort of game I think suits Plummer.

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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:

That George Furbank is fucking handy.

MoM for me. Some of his defensive stuff was unbelievable.

booboo

@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs England I:

Well done NZ

I called England winning the series 2-0 a month or so back and they should have been going to Eden Park 1 ahead with their tails up

The door should have been shut with 20 mins to go

NZ didn't panic, played the long game knowing England can't score from deep, and got tighter and more precise as the match wore on

Thoroughly deserved their win

NZ will now win the series 2-0

Comfortably

I think you're over rating England based on their ability to stay close. They had a period after half time. Other than that I felt ABs were on top.

Delete the 2 mins before the break, and Damo's time out and England were Comfortably behind.

antipodean

LOL Does JK ever say anything bad about players? Thinks DMac had a really good game.

ACT Crusader

@Tim said in All Blacks vs England I:

Robertson might want to ask Cotter for some advice about robust, test-level rugby tactics.

Nah we’ve Wayne ‘Magic’ Smith.

Tim

@ACT-Crusader To be fair, no matter his other qualities, he was an absolutely terrible AB head coach whose team was the epitome of soft-as-shite Southern Hemisphere basketball rugby.

chimoaus

@booboo England were very good IMO. How many points did they miss from Smith 12 or 8? That normally wouldn’t happen.

Canes4life

@Frank said in All Blacks vs England I:

Our best - Scott Barrett, Reece, Taylor - all Cantabrians as it happens.

Taylor was average in that second half. Jordie was very good. Perenara was solid in that first half. Aumua and Newell very good off the bench.

KiwiMurph

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:

LOL Does JK ever say anything bad about players? Thinks DMac had a really good game.

There's a reason he was a dud coach

Machpants

Yeah Taylor was average, aumua much better

MiketheSnow

Officiating team were excellent I thought

Quick, decisive calls which for the most part were correct. Incorrect/marginal calls went for/against both sides

Game flowed well

No cards. Well done players

booboo

@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England I:

@booboo England were very good IMO. How many points did they miss from Smith 12?

England were ok.

But I'm picking we were 60-40 better.

Could have lost, and it wouldn't have been a robbery. But we were better and deserved the Dub.

ACT Crusader

@Tim said in All Blacks vs England I:

@ACT-Crusader To be fair, no matter his other qualities, he was an absolutely terrible AB head coach whose team was the epitome of soft-as-shite Southern Hemisphere basketball rugby.

And yeah that was 23+ years ago. He’s learned a thing or 3 about test rugby since those soft days

Winger

@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

@Frank said in All Blacks vs England I:

Our best - Scott Barrett, Reece, Taylor - all Cantabrians as it happens.

Taylor was average in that second half. Jordie was very good. Perenara was solid in that first half. Aumua and Newell very good off the bench.

I wonder why some rate Taylor so highly

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