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All Blacks vs England I

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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    Turnover stats say what?

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      You Blues guys are worse than the Cantabs as homer's.

      I'll chuck you a bone, Stevie P was good, and his replacement was fucking awful

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      Tim
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      @mariner4life 41 - 10 really hurt, eh.

      Must've been the two Blues in the starting pack that did it. Not the coaches or the six who got dominated at Super Rugby level.

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        It's not Foster v Razor

        It's DMac has a better passing game than BB and Mo'unga and thus we unlocked it

        I'm still astounded that he's copping shit playing 10 outside a beaten pack and rubbish halfbacks.the boy is a wizard

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        @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

        It's not Foster v Razor

        It's DMac has a better passing game than BB and Mo'unga and thus we unlocked it

        I'm still astounded that he's copping shit playing 10 outside a beaten pack and rubbish halfbacks.the boy is a wizard

        Truth lies somewhere in the middle. There was definitely space created and you can see the opportunities he presents.

        But he also overplayed his hand a bit much and a lot of his kicking was average.

        It would be nice to see him paired with Ratima.

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          Turnover stats say what?

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          Tim
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          #1253

          @mariner4life Hard to get turnovers without someone hitting defensive rucks to put pressure on, like the last one. We also got a turnover when Papalii tackled Earls off the scrum and brought him down quick.

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          • mariner4lifeM Online
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            I don't care about super rugby it's rubbish.

            I care about good loose forward play. Dalton is a short 6. Ardie is a floating something.

            We need to focus on generating turnover ball, but somehow we still pick these guys who just don't

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              I don't care about super rugby it's rubbish.

              I care about good loose forward play. Dalton is a short 6. Ardie is a floating something.

              We need to focus on generating turnover ball, but somehow we still pick these guys who just don't

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              Tim
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              @mariner4life Who would you pick? Sotutu and Jacobson were high up in turnover stats.

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              • mariner4lifeM Online
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                Harmon

                And Sotutu.

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                  Our best - Scott Barrett, Reece, Taylor - all Cantabrians as it happens.

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                  @Frank said in All Blacks vs England I:

                  Our best - Scott Barrett, Reece, Taylor - all Cantabrians as it happens.

                  Newell was excellent off the bench.

                  Williams and Bell trained the house down during the week too. And did you hear how well Havili was holding those tackle bags. Mo’unga was the pick of the ex players in the crowd too.

                  Carrying this team….

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                  • mariner4lifeM Online
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                    But I get that the AB coaches see it differently, because this is now two who.pick the exact same.

                    But again I watched a team keep the ball as long as they wanted

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      Harmon

                      And Sotutu.

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                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

                      Harmon

                      Jesus buddy. Have you ever wondered why the Highlanders' defence is so bad? The guy cannot get wide, and cannot scramble in cover. If someone makes a break against them then they generally score. Harmon is very good in close, and great for them in slow winter games. He is a decent jackler, but is more limited in covering the field than any other starting seven in NZ! He's a hybrid 7 and tight forward at that rate.

                      Robertson preferred Christie over him, despite Christie's many limitations.

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        Harmon

                        And Sotutu.

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                        #1260

                        @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

                        Harmon

                        And Sotutu.

                        Unfortunately 2024 Harmon is not the same player he was in previous years

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          But I get that the AB coaches see it differently, because this is now two who.pick the exact same.

                          But again I watched a team keep the ball as long as they wanted

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                          @mariner4life Our line speed was shit. Our pattern was shit. How do you put pressure on the ruck with that kind of presence?

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                          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                            I don't care about super rugby it's rubbish.

                            I care about good loose forward play. Dalton is a short 6. Ardie is a floating something.

                            We need to focus on generating turnover ball, but somehow we still pick these guys who just don't

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                            @mariner4life yeah it’s pretty telling to me that when Sevu Reece has competed for the ball at the ruck what on the naked eyes was as many as your openside flanker, then we aren’t picking the right mix to win turnover ball.

                            I would’ve loved for Harmon to be given a shot because of how he competes for the ball and his technique. But he’s off overseas.

                            Being back Matt Todd

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                            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                              @Frank said in All Blacks vs England I:

                              Our best - Scott Barrett, Reece, Taylor - all Cantabrians as it happens.

                              Newell was excellent off the bench.

                              Williams and Bell trained the house down during the week too. And did you hear how well Havili was holding those tackle bags. Mo’unga was the pick of the ex players in the crowd too.

                              Carrying this team….

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                              Tim
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                              @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:

                              Newell was excellent off the bench.

                              Great in the scrum. Missed a couple of tackles. About par for the night compared to the others.

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                                @mariner4life yeah it’s pretty telling to me that when Sevu Reece has competed for the ball at the ruck what on the naked eyes was as many as your openside flanker, then we aren’t picking the right mix to win turnover ball.

                                I would’ve loved for Harmon to be given a shot because of how he competes for the ball and his technique. But he’s off overseas.

                                Being back Matt Todd

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                                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                Being back Matt Todd

                                2010 "link player". Daniel Braid was his predecessor.

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                                • mariner4lifeM Online
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                                  Yeah I wasn't really serious

                                  But NZ rugby has abandoned that sort of player.

                                  And we always pass it off with "oh breakdown turnover comes from systems" but of.so long we've watched Foster teams ignore breakdown turnover, and tonight we were the same.

                                  And it's not 2002 where it's the opensides job, but shit could one of out loosies please be a ruck pest?

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                                    I think we all agree the loose trio is still looking unsettled. The locks are the best of what is left (but I also like Darry) and we are currently spoiled for props and have some useful hookers. But during the last era and possibly this one we are still undecided on the best trio.

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      Harmon

                                      And Sotutu.

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                                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                      Harmon

                                      Didn't look that good against Japan this evening to suggest Test rugby is something where he could be a point of difference for the All Blacks.

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                                          It's apparently too much of an ask to have the reporters speak into a microphone.

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