All Blacks vs England 2

BerniesCorner

De Groot
Taylor
Lomax
Barrett (C)
Tuipolotu
Sititi
Papali'i
Savea (VC)
Ratima
McKenzie
Ioane
Barrett (VC)
Proctor
Reece
Perofeta

Darren

I just can't see Ioane being moved to the wing, been so long since he played there. I'm sure he would be fine, I just don't see it happening.

Bones

Yeah as much as I'd love to see it as I think he could be a brilliant winger, that ship has unfortunately sailed. Nailed home by selecting a gazillion wingers.

MN5

Sititi in a test debut in an unfamiliar position against a seasoned English pack ?

Madness

BerniesCorner

Who's your 6 from the squad

BerniesCorner

If I'm completely honest I'd have Savea 7, Paps 6, Sititi 8 but it aint gonna happen

African Monkey

Same team rolled out unless injuries. We'll be better for the run.

Canes4life

I'd like to see the below for the second test:

De Groot
Taylor
Lomax
Barrett (C)
Tuipolotu
Blackadder
Papali'i
Savea (VC)
Ratima
McKenzie
Clarke
Barrett (VC)
Proctor
Reece
Barrett

Aumua
Tu'ungafasi
Newell
Va'ai
Jacobsen
Christie
ALB
Perofeta

MN5

@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs England 2:

I'd like to see the below for the second test:

De Groot
Taylor
Lomax
Barrett (C)
Tuipolotu
Blackadder
Papali'i
Savea (VC)
Ratima
McKenzie
Clarke
Barrett (VC)
Proctor
Reece
Barrett

Aumua
Tu'ungafasi
Newell
Va'ai
Jacobsen
Christie
ALB
Perofeta

Its like invasion of the body snatchers has taken over the fern. People are picking Blackadder and backing it up with sound logic !

What is your reasoning with picking an ageing Barrett over a surprisingly very decent Perofeta ?

I also reckon Aumua deserves a start.

Chris

@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs England 2:

I'd like to see the below for the second test:

De Groot
Taylor
Lomax
Barrett (C)
Tuipolotu
Blackadder
Papali'i
Savea (VC)
Ratima
McKenzie
Clarke
Barrett (VC)
Proctor
Reece
Barrett

Aumua
Tu'ungafasi
Newell
Va'ai
Jacobsen
Christie
ALB
Perofeta

I like that team except I would swap Barrett for Perofeta.
Perofeta went well first test and I see him as more of a threat with ball in hand than BB and has a bigger boot.

Canes4life

@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs England 2:

I'd like to see the below for the second test:

De Groot
Taylor
Lomax
Barrett (C)
Tuipolotu
Blackadder
Papali'i
Savea (VC)
Ratima
McKenzie
Clarke
Barrett (VC)
Proctor
Reece
Barrett

Aumua
Tu'ungafasi
Newell
Va'ai
Jacobsen
Christie
ALB
Perofeta

Its like invasion of the body snatchers has taken over the fern. People are picking Blackadder and backing it up with sound logic !

What is your reasoning with picking an ageing Barrett over a surprisingly very decent Perofeta ?

I also reckon Aumua deserves a start.

If Finau isn't fit Blackadder is my 6 choice. If he can bring that no nonsense style of game that we know he can and doesn't get injured, I think he'll be the guy picked.

My reasoning for Barrett is a bigger voice at the back. I think because DMac was so erratic at 10 last night, having Beaudy's experience out there will help, especially because I've got Proctor at centre aswell.

That's the team I want them to pick but I think Perofeta and Ioane will keep their spots.

Mattasaurus

Can't see too many non-injury enforced changes to be honest. Potentially a couple of changes on the bench.

Big thing last night was discipline ... no cards ( did we even get a warning?) I am picking that was one of the big focuses

No Quarter

I'd keep it the same, as mentioned above all players will be better for the game together, so making too many changes sets us back a bit.

Rieko had a couple of turnovers in quick succession which was noticeable, but was otherwise OK. It'd be crazy to drop him on that one performance. I've said I'd like him at wing before, but also happy with him at centre, he has to be on the park.

It'd also be harsh to drop Finau, the coaches have made their bed with him instead of Akira so they now need to develop him. He's learnt some big lessons in the Super final and last night, and with good coaches around him he should be better for it.

Halfback I'd start Christie for the early exchanges as his defense is very good, then look to bring on Ratima in the 2nd 40 to speed things up as I thought the English ran out of puff a bit.

If Blackadder is fit I'd be fine with him getting the bench spot over Jacobson, his high energy style of play could suit that role in test footy.

chimoaus

Sounds like TJ might be ok, scans tomorrow? I wonder if they rest him or let him play if deemed fit?

Chester Draws

I hope Beauden Barrett doesn't start. He has never really worked well with DMc, doesn't take on the line, and continues to kick the ball away in the hopeless way we did last year. Perofeta did nothing wrong, so why bench him?

If we go that way -- not rewarding decent play by youngsters in order to promote men on the way out anyway then Robertson will just be Foster Mk II.

I think there will some extended video analysis, where Razor asks them "Why did you do that?". There's a lot of bad habits that will take some time to lose.

BerniesCorner

@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs England 2:

DMac was so erratic at 10 last night

I disagree. He was under pressure the whole time as England were so good.

Canes4life

@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England 2:

Sounds like TJ might be ok, scans tomorrow? I wonder if they rest him or let him play if deemed fit?

Definitely rest him, no need to risk players when Perenara, Christie and Ratima are fairly even ability wise, each bringing different strengths.

BerniesCorner

@No-Quarter
Our loosies need more collective oomphff. England outplayed us in that department.

BerniesCorner

An option is to bring Sititi , Ratima and Proctor on in the second half

BerniesCorner

I've never liked Savea at 8 and Ioane at 13 . But that's just me.
7 and 11 for mine.

The Silver Fern

All Blacks vs England 2