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All Blacks vs England 2

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  • KirwanK Kirwan

    Crusaders coaching teams picks crusaders player for higher honors? Colour me shocked.

    Funaki had a far better season than he did, almost pushing out Christie.

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    @Kirwan I still don't understand why Funaki was replaced.

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      @Kirwan I still don't understand why Funaki was replaced.

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      @Frank said in All Blacks vs England 2:

      @Kirwan I still don't understand why Funaki was replaced.

      the much maligned Christie made some big plays in the playoff run. His pass isn't top drawer but he brings other things to the table. Just like Marshall back in the day 😛

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        @Frank said in All Blacks vs England 2:

        @Kirwan I still don't understand why Funaki was replaced.

        the much maligned Christie made some big plays in the playoff run. His pass isn't top drawer but he brings other things to the table. Just like Marshall back in the day 😛

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        @nzzp
        That's it with him isn't it.
        He's always getting in (to the Blues and ABs) based on experience.
        He wasn't outstanding, just solid.

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          @nzzp
          That's it with him isn't it.
          He's always getting in (to the Blues and ABs) based on experience.
          He wasn't outstanding, just solid.

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          @Frank said in All Blacks vs England 2:

          He wasn't outstanding, just solid.

          Huge for us defensively and at the ruck.

          Watch the big turnover at the end of the game - he comes into the line, pushes the defender out to make the tackle and is right there for the TO. Same thing happened at least once that I saw in the Test at the weekend.

          I'm not a massive fan, but he isn't the donkey people make him out to be. He ain't Aaron Smith, but no-one is. Brings a different game to the table ... and the reservation is the core role (passing).

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            @pakman said in All Blacks vs England 2:

            @Bovidae said in All Blacks vs England 2:

            I want a halfback that has speed and length in their pass.

            TTT?

            Nah, his passing is nowhere near as good as it was when he made the ABs.

            It was noticeable how slow TJP's passing was. Christie has a better pass but takes so long to actually pass the ball. If you are trying to beat the rush defence it starts with the service from the halfback.

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            @Bovidae said in All Blacks vs England 2:

            It was noticeable how slow TJP's passing was.

            TJ can be slow. But in this game he was good.

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              Old Samurai Jack
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              Far too early for Hotham.

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                Far too early for Hotham.

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                Kiwiwomble
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                @Old-Samurai-Jack to be 3rd choice? so basically baring injury in training this is work experience for him?

                given the injury to our clear first choice (CR)....second and third are really relying on experience to be there (TJP and FC)....your other options with experience is fakatava...who has gone a bit off the boil....or picking between the two young inexperienced guys....it make some sense to me

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                  Next my bet is Hannah, Grace,Springer, some were close in the future

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                      @Chris-B probably 3 better options, coaches need to look out of there comfort zone on this 1 , anyway it is what it is.

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                      @george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                      @Chris-B probably 3 better options, coaches need to look out of there comfort zone on this 1 , anyway it is what it is.

                      I can only think of one who isn't injured.

                      I enjoy irritating Saders fans as much as the next person, but Hotham clearly has promise.

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                        Kiwiwomble
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                        im not saying he would have been my first choice....but as someone thats starting regularly for a super team and given our injuries....hes obviously an option....its not like theyve named the 2nd grade 9 from Sumner Rugby Club

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                          You can understand the Hotham decision but by god it gives the punters even more ammunition when it comes to the bias debate… we knew it was going to be interesting when it came to fringe/future players but this really comes across a bit fishy. From Razor and Hansons perspective, Knows the player = safe selection.

                          Hotham is a good player, but hopefully this is just as it’s stated(injury cover for now). It certainly leads you to believe he will be picked either on the end of year tour or next season though, the TJ injury just accelerates that process.

                          I do feel for Funaki and Fakatava. One thing is for sure though, there is a shit load of halfback depth in the country right now. You could even add Pledger coming through in the u20’s to that list.

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                            Machpants
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                            Funaki is definitely a better player, and has had more game/big game experience, esp recently. I reckon it is a bit of a bullshit call, very open to bias

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                            • Chris B.C Chris B.

                              @george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                              @Chris-B what's he done, crusaders didn't make top 8, yet Blues, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Highlanders did , think there is a bit of bullshit hold your hand going on.

                              This is a new and stupid argument that we didn't hear much of when the Crusaders won seven titles in a row.

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                              @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                              @george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                              @Chris-B what's he done, crusaders didn't make top 8, yet Blues, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Highlanders did , think there is a bit of bullshit hold your hand going on.

                              This is a new and stupid argument that we didn't hear much of when the Crusaders won seven titles in a row.

                              What contribution did Hotham make to those titles?

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                                ALB to centre, Proctor the bench
                                Blackadder 6
                                Savea 7
                                Sititi 8
                                Ratima start, Christie on the bench

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                                  @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                  @george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                  @Chris-B what's he done, crusaders didn't make top 8, yet Blues, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Highlanders did , think there is a bit of bullshit hold your hand going on.

                                  This is a new and stupid argument that we didn't hear much of when the Crusaders won seven titles in a row.

                                  What contribution did Hotham make to those titles?

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                                  taniwharugby
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                                  @Tim he watched them?

                                  Good to see the old provincial lines repainted recently though.

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                                    ALB to centre, Proctor the bench
                                    Blackadder 6
                                    Savea 7
                                    Sititi 8
                                    Ratima start, Christie on the bench

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                                    @Stag it's Eden park, not the local playground silly calls

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                                      ALB to centre, Proctor the bench
                                      Blackadder 6
                                      Savea 7
                                      Sititi 8
                                      Ratima start, Christie on the bench

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                                      @Stag said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                      ALB to centre, Proctor the bench
                                      Blackadder 6
                                      Savea 7
                                      Sititi 8
                                      Ratima start, Christie on the bench

                                      i'd love to see 7 savea 8 Sititi and personally id give Finau another shot at 6.....but i think theyve made it quite clear savea is an 8 as far as theyre concerned

                                      and i think Ioane gets back in (as much as i want to see proctor)...home ground, incumbent with eden park record etc....

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                                        Rugby Direct Podcast saying that Roigard is on track for the EOYT.

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                                          https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/350334741/all-blacks-need-touch-vern-cotters-blues-kill-englands-rush-defence

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