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All Blacks vs England 2

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  • KirwanK Kirwan

    Crusaders coaching teams picks crusaders player for higher honors? Colour me shocked.

    Funaki had a far better season than he did, almost pushing out Christie.

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    @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Crusaders coaching teams picks crusaders player for higher honors? Colour me shocked.

    Funaki had a far better season than he did, almost pushing out Christie.

    Funaki was great for most of the season, however he stunk the joint up in the quarter or semi final (can’t recall which now), which may have impacted his chances.

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    • G george33

      Next my bet is Hannah, Grace,Springer, some were close in the future

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      @george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

      Next my bet is Hannah, Grace,Springer, some were close in the future

      I agree.

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      • GunnerG Gunner

        @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England 2:

        Crusaders coaching teams picks crusaders player for higher honors? Colour me shocked.

        Funaki had a far better season than he did, almost pushing out Christie.

        Funaki was great for most of the season, however he stunk the joint up in the quarter or semi final (can’t recall which now), which may have impacted his chances.

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        @Gunner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

        @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England 2:

        Crusaders coaching teams picks crusaders player for higher honors? Colour me shocked.

        Funaki had a far better season than he did, almost pushing out Christie.

        Funaki was great for most of the season, however he stunk the joint up in the quarter or semi final (can’t recall which now), which may have impacted his chances.

        Hotham may as well have not even been on the field for the finals.

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          No offence meant to the young man, but i fucken hate coaches picking pet young players. it's the ABs not a development squad, pick people on merit and if you want to bring a kid you like to training - fine, do that but don't pick him. you are just blowing smoke up his arse and disappointing the more deserving players who are more likely to go overseas and erode our depth.

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          • KirwanK Kirwan

            Crusaders coaching teams picks crusaders player for higher honors? Colour me shocked.

            Funaki had a far better season than he did, almost pushing out Christie.

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            @Kirwan yet the blues players that played on Saturday were the worst players. Dalton Reiko Christie Patty T.
            People need to dropped the super rugby bullshit.

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            • BonesB Bones

              @Gunner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

              @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England 2:

              Crusaders coaching teams picks crusaders player for higher honors? Colour me shocked.

              Funaki had a far better season than he did, almost pushing out Christie.

              Funaki was great for most of the season, however he stunk the joint up in the quarter or semi final (can’t recall which now), which may have impacted his chances.

              Hotham may as well have not even been on the field for the finals.

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              @Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:

              @Gunner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

              @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England 2:

              Crusaders coaching teams picks crusaders player for higher honors? Colour me shocked.

              Funaki had a far better season than he did, almost pushing out Christie.

              Funaki was great for most of the season, however he stunk the joint up in the quarter or semi final (can’t recall which now), which may have impacted his chances.

              Hotham may as well have not even been on the field for the finals.

              Unsure what you’re getting at.

              I mean, no shit Sherlock, Hotham didn’t play finals.

              Haven’t we always been led to believe that finals form, or lack of, matters?

              Just putting it out there that a shit game at the wrong time of the year may have counted against Funaki…

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              • GunnerG Gunner

                @Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                @Gunner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                Crusaders coaching teams picks crusaders player for higher honors? Colour me shocked.

                Funaki had a far better season than he did, almost pushing out Christie.

                Funaki was great for most of the season, however he stunk the joint up in the quarter or semi final (can’t recall which now), which may have impacted his chances.

                Hotham may as well have not even been on the field for the finals.

                Unsure what you’re getting at.

                I mean, no shit Sherlock, Hotham didn’t play finals.

                Haven’t we always been led to believe that finals form, or lack of, matters?

                Just putting it out there that a shit game at the wrong time of the year may have counted against Funaki…

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                @Gunner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                @Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                @Gunner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                Crusaders coaching teams picks crusaders player for higher honors? Colour me shocked.

                Funaki had a far better season than he did, almost pushing out Christie.

                Funaki was great for most of the season, however he stunk the joint up in the quarter or semi final (can’t recall which now), which may have impacted his chances.

                Hotham may as well have not even been on the field for the finals.

                Unsure what you’re getting at.

                I mean, no shit Sherlock, Hotham didn’t play finals.

                Haven’t we always been led to believe that finals form, or lack of, matters?

                Just putting it out there that a shit game at the wrong time of the year may have counted against Funaki…

                Yep, completely understand that. Doesn't really make a lot of sense when you're selecting a guy who must have been a big reason why his team didn't even make said finals, over a guy who was very much a reason his team did.

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                  @Kirwan yet the blues players that played on Saturday were the worst players. Dalton Reiko Christie Patty T.
                  People need to dropped the super rugby bullshit.

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                  @chchfanatic Yes I am a Blues fan and I'm not interested either in parochialism when it comes to the black jersey, but what you said there was simply not true. Rieko yes, had a below par test, but the other 3 were not the worst players.

                  That's an anti-Blues comment if ever I've seen one.

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @Gunner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                    @Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                    @Gunner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                    @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                    Crusaders coaching teams picks crusaders player for higher honors? Colour me shocked.

                    Funaki had a far better season than he did, almost pushing out Christie.

                    Funaki was great for most of the season, however he stunk the joint up in the quarter or semi final (can’t recall which now), which may have impacted his chances.

                    Hotham may as well have not even been on the field for the finals.

                    Unsure what you’re getting at.

                    I mean, no shit Sherlock, Hotham didn’t play finals.

                    Haven’t we always been led to believe that finals form, or lack of, matters?

                    Just putting it out there that a shit game at the wrong time of the year may have counted against Funaki…

                    Yep, completely understand that. Doesn't really make a lot of sense when you're selecting a guy who must have been a big reason why his team didn't even make said finals, over a guy who was very much a reason his team did.

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                    @Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                    @Gunner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                    @Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                    @Gunner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                    @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                    Crusaders coaching teams picks crusaders player for higher honors? Colour me shocked.

                    Funaki had a far better season than he did, almost pushing out Christie.

                    Funaki was great for most of the season, however he stunk the joint up in the quarter or semi final (can’t recall which now), which may have impacted his chances.

                    Hotham may as well have not even been on the field for the finals.

                    Unsure what you’re getting at.

                    I mean, no shit Sherlock, Hotham didn’t play finals.

                    Haven’t we always been led to believe that finals form, or lack of, matters?

                    Just putting it out there that a shit game at the wrong time of the year may have counted against Funaki…

                    Yep, completely understand that. Doesn't really make a lot of sense when you're selecting a guy who must have been a big reason why his team didn't even make said finals, over a guy who was very much a reason his team did.

                    Yep, what you’re saying is certainly valid for a number of selections, not just this one.

                    Definitely not the first and won’t be the last.

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                    • GunnerG Gunner

                      @Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                      @Gunner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                      @Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                      @Gunner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                      Crusaders coaching teams picks crusaders player for higher honors? Colour me shocked.

                      Funaki had a far better season than he did, almost pushing out Christie.

                      Funaki was great for most of the season, however he stunk the joint up in the quarter or semi final (can’t recall which now), which may have impacted his chances.

                      Hotham may as well have not even been on the field for the finals.

                      Unsure what you’re getting at.

                      I mean, no shit Sherlock, Hotham didn’t play finals.

                      Haven’t we always been led to believe that finals form, or lack of, matters?

                      Just putting it out there that a shit game at the wrong time of the year may have counted against Funaki…

                      Yep, completely understand that. Doesn't really make a lot of sense when you're selecting a guy who must have been a big reason why his team didn't even make said finals, over a guy who was very much a reason his team did.

                      Yep, what you’re saying is certainly valid for a number of selections, not just this one.

                      Definitely not the first and won’t be the last.

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                      @Gunner it's that Fozzie logic I was hoping to see the back of...

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                      • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                        @chchfanatic Yes I am a Blues fan and I'm not interested either in parochialism when it comes to the black jersey, but what you said there was simply not true. Rieko yes, had a below par test, but the other 3 were not the worst players.

                        That's an anti-Blues comment if ever I've seen one.

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                        @African-Monkey I’m anti blues in super rugby. This is the All blacks. They are All
                        Blacks. Doesn’t matter where they came from.
                        I was merely stating that some of the worst players were from the blues.
                        Are we going to comment on every crusaders player that gets selected from now on. It’s tedious. They are selecting who they believe are the best players.
                        It’s not like he’s selecting Tom Christie and Mitch Drummond. In a shit crusaders season , Hotham was a shining light.

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                        • C chchfanatic

                          @African-Monkey I’m anti blues in super rugby. This is the All blacks. They are All
                          Blacks. Doesn’t matter where they came from.
                          I was merely stating that some of the worst players were from the blues.
                          Are we going to comment on every crusaders player that gets selected from now on. It’s tedious. They are selecting who they believe are the best players.
                          It’s not like he’s selecting Tom Christie and Mitch Drummond. In a shit crusaders season , Hotham was a shining light.

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                          @chchfanatic And I disputed that 3 of those 4 Blues players you called out were the worst players. Codie Taylor had a poor 2nd half throwing wise, didn't mean he had a shocker overall though. Finau had a quiet night, looked like he's still adjusting to a new style of play but will get better. Christie was very good when he came on, controlled the tempo well and pegged the English back, forcing them to attack from deep or a lot of the final quarter. Tuipulotu had a very strong 1st half especially when used as a carrier. Faded a bit in the 2nd half but the worst? Come on haha. Papali'i worked tirelessly all game, how was he in the category as the worst? I do get the criticisms that come his way too as he isn't as dominant in the collision as our previous 7s have been and have had my reservations about him at test level, but to say he was in the worst player category? Again, a massive stretch.

                          As for the Crusaders criticisms? Personally, I don't care that Hotham got selected, whatever. Not fussed at all about it infact, he finished the season strongly at Super Rugby, someone's gotta get picked and it was him, good on him. Infact, I can't stand the Crusaders, but I feel like I've defended them and their players a fair bit this year.

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                          • TimT Away
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                            https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/how-englands-blitz-ground-all-blacks-to-a-standstill/

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                            • FrankF Frank

                              @Machpants
                              Yeah, earlier the better.
                              Quicker pass than Christie and Perenara, total nightmare to defend against around the fringes, and massive and accurate boot.

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                              @Frank said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                              @Machpants
                              Yeah, earlier the better.
                              Quicker pass than Christie and Perenara, total nightmare to defend against around the fringes, and massive and accurate boot.

                              And physical..

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                              • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                                @chchfanatic Yes I am a Blues fan and I'm not interested either in parochialism when it comes to the black jersey, but what you said there was simply not true. Rieko yes, had a below par test, but the other 3 were not the worst players.

                                That's an anti-Blues comment if ever I've seen one.

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                                @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                Rieko yes, had a below par test, but the other 3 were not the worst players.

                                I'd say (and I'm a big fan of him normally) that the ruck involvements and tackles made indicated Patty T's workrate was below par.

                                That being said, Papalii was the best.

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/how-englands-blitz-ground-all-blacks-to-a-standstill/

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                                  @Tim
                                  Good article, and god damn it's groundhog day talking about us struggling with the rush defense.
                                  Wondering, it's so good, why don't we do it?

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                                  • C chchfanatic

                                    @Kirwan yet the blues players that played on Saturday were the worst players. Dalton Reiko Christie Patty T.
                                    People need to dropped the super rugby bullshit.

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                                    @chchfanatic said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                    People need to dropped the super rugby bullshit.

                                    I agree, can you pass this along to Crafty Comb?

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                                      Hotham may turn out to be a very good player for the ABs but what worries me about his selection at this point is how long it took him to look like he belonged at Super Level. Up to that point I was wondering if the Saders got themselves a dud. For that reason I would have waited a bit longer to pick him to make sure his good form wasn't a fluke.

                                      On the other hand Funaki is probably in the same boat and Fakatava hasn't looked like an AB for a while.

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                                      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                        Hotham may turn out to be a very good player for the ABs but what worries me about his selection at this point is how long it took him to look like he belonged at Super Level. Up to that point I was wondering if the Saders got themselves a dud. For that reason I would have waited a bit longer to pick him to make sure his good form wasn't a fluke.

                                        On the other hand Funaki is probably in the same boat and Fakatava hasn't looked like an AB for a while.

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                                        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                        Hotham may turn out to be a very good player for the ABs but what worries me about his selection at this point is how long it took him to look like he belonged at Super Level. Up to that point I was wondering if the Saders got themselves a dud. For that reason I would have waited a bit longer to pick him to make sure his good form wasn't a fluke.

                                        On the other hand Funaki is probably in the same boat and Fakatava hasn't looked like an AB for a while.

                                        I thought for a 19-20 year old last season when he got albeit some limited chances, he showed plenty of promise with how he played. Looked pretty good. Had a bit of the second season blues this year but his running game was solid and his pass is very strong both ways. So yes it’s been up and down, but I can see why they like him given his size relative to other halfbacks in NZ - 5’11 and 90+ kgs.

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                                        • FrankF Frank

                                          @Tim
                                          Good article, and god damn it's groundhog day talking about us struggling with the rush defense.
                                          Wondering, it's so good, why don't we do it?

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                                          Tim
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                                          @Frank It almost gave me flashbacks! Real nostalgia.

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